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data-mw-thread-id="h-Les_Misérables,_cleaner_bot_issue-20240416231100"><span id="Les_Mis.C3.A9rables.2C_cleaner_bot_issue"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Les_Misérables,_cleaner_bot_issue-20240416231100"></span>Les Misérables, cleaner bot issue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Les_Misérables,_cleaner_bot_issue-20240416231100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Les Misérables, cleaner bot issue"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JackofOz-20240416231100-Les_Misérables,_cleaner_bot_issue"></span>Hi. Your bot thing has reverted my edit on <a href="/wiki/Les_Mis%C3%A9rables_(2012_film)" title="Les Misérables (2012 film)">Les Misérables (2012 film)</a>, thus reinstating the problem I fixed. If you check <a href="/wiki/Category:Films_based_on_Les_Mis%C3%A9rables" title="Category:Films based on Les Misérables">Category:Films based on Les Misérables</a>, you'll see the 2012 film now appears - again - as the first of the films, with all the earlier ones coming later. Clearly, this is chronologically indefensible. We need to change the defaultsorts of all the other articles, or fix just this one. My solution was the most parsimonious one. If you insist on technical correctness, you must now do the work with all the other articles. Or reinstate my edit. Your choice. Over to you. -- <a href="/wiki/User:JackofOz" title="User:JackofOz"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Jack of Oz</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:JackofOz#top" title="User talk:JackofOz"><span style="font-size:85%; font-family: Verdana;"><sup>[pleasantries]</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-JackofOz-20240416231100-Les_Misérables,_cleaner_bot_issue" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:11, 16 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JackofOz-20240416231100-Les_Misérables,_cleaner_bot_issue"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JackofOz-20240416231100-Les_Misérables,_cleaner_bot_issue"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240417080400-JackofOz-20240416231100"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:JackofOz" title="User:JackofOz">JackofOz</a>. I'm sorry, but where did you see that my bot reverted your edit ? Your edit was reverted by <a href="/wiki/User:Joeyconnick" title="User:Joeyconnick">User:Joeyconnick</a> according to the history. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240417080400-JackofOz-20240416231100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240417080400-JackofOz-20240416231100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240417080400-JackofOz-20240416231100"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JackofOz-20240417085000-NicoV-20240417080400"></span>Oops. My mistake. Apologies. :) -- <a href="/wiki/User:JackofOz" title="User:JackofOz"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Jack of Oz</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:JackofOz#top" title="User talk:JackofOz"><span style="font-size:85%; font-family: Verdana;"><sup>[pleasantries]</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-JackofOz-20240417085000-NicoV-20240417080400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JackofOz-20240417085000-NicoV-20240417080400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JackofOz-20240417085000-NicoV-20240417080400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240419114400"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240419114400"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240419114400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aaron_Liu-20240419114400-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Copyeditor's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Wow, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1219711124" title="Special:Diff/1219711124">this bot is really smart!</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Aaron_Liu" title="User:Aaron Liu"><span style="color:#0645ad">Aaron Liu</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aaron_Liu#top" title="User talk:Aaron Liu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Aaron_Liu-20240419114400-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aaron_Liu-20240419114400-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aaron_Liu-20240419114400-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tina_Kennard_inaccurate_synopsis" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tina_Kennard_inaccurate_synopsis-20240421142700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tina_Kennard_inaccurate_synopsis-20240421142700"></span>Tina Kennard inaccurate synopsis<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tina_Kennard_inaccurate_synopsis-20240421142700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Tina Kennard inaccurate synopsis"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB-20240421142700-Tina_Kennard_inaccurate_synopsis"></span>Hi. Your bot is repeatedly reverting my edits to the <a href="/wiki/Tina_Kennard" title="Tina Kennard">Tina Kennard</a> page and providing an inaccurate synopsis about her character arc in The L Word and The L Word Generation Q. I have repeatedly changed the article to what really happened and have provided numerous sources to back it up, but every time, the bot reverts it to the version where it portrays Bette and Tina's narcissist/battered woman relationship as a "strong bond" and sugarcoats the rape scene as break-up sex. Can something be done? I've opened a topic on the talk page but I have a feeling the bot will just ignore it and revert it. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB" title="Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB">2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB-20240421142700-Tina_Kennard_inaccurate_synopsis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 21 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB-20240421142700-Tina_Kennard_inaccurate_synopsis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB-20240421142700-Tina_Kennard_inaccurate_synopsis"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240421154000-2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB-20240421142700"></span>Hi. Please look at the page history rather than accusing me of something... <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tina_Kennard&diff=prev&oldid=1219710147">My bot is simply putting references after punctuation</a>, which is the correct way on enwiki, cf <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFPUNCT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFPUNCT">WP:REFPUNCT</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240421154000-2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB-20240421142700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 21 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240421154000-2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB-20240421142700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240421154000-2A02:C7C:84CC:9F00:A894:731B:CD11:C9EB-20240421142700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="barnstar" data-mw-thread-id="h-barnstar"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-barnstar"></span>barnstar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-barnstar"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: barnstar"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <table class="barnstar" style="border:1px solid gray; background:#fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="padding-right:5px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png/100px-Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="119" data-file-height="114"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size:1.65em; padding:0; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-top: 1px solid gray;"><a href="/wiki/Red_Digital_Cinema" title="Red Digital Cinema">Red Digital Cinema</a> nice work </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Simon_Weston's_Father" data-mw-thread-id="h-Simon_Weston's_Father-20240607204400"><span id="Simon_Weston.27s_Father"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Simon_Weston's_Father-20240607204400"></span>Simon Weston's Father<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Simon_Weston's_Father-20240607204400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Simon Weston's Father"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnlivingstone86-20240607204400-Simon_Weston's_Father"></span>Adding information about Simon Weston's father, David Weston, is highly relevant to this article. Simon discussed the estranged relationship with his father in his autobiography, and understanding these events provides crucial context to his personal story. These details shed light on significant personal challenges he faced, enhancing the reader's understanding of Simon's life and resilience. The inclusion is well-sourced and maintains a neutral tone, adhering to Wikipedia's guidelines. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Johnlivingstone86&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Johnlivingstone86 (page does not exist)">Johnlivingstone86</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnlivingstone86&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Johnlivingstone86 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Johnlivingstone86-20240607204400-Simon_Weston's_Father" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnlivingstone86-20240607204400-Simon_Weston's_Father"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnlivingstone86-20240607204400-Simon_Weston's_Father"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240608063300-Johnlivingstone86-20240607204400"></span>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Johnlivingstone86&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Johnlivingstone86 (page does not exist)">Johnlivingstone86</a>. Why are you telling me this ? <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240608063300-Johnlivingstone86-20240607204400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240608063300-Johnlivingstone86-20240607204400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240608063300-Johnlivingstone86-20240607204400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WikiCleanerBot_not_respecting_Template:Bots?" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiCleanerBot_not_respecting_Template:Bots?-20240609081500"><span id="WikiCleanerBot_not_respecting_Template:Bots.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiCleanerBot_not_respecting_Template:Bots?-20240609081500"></span>WikiCleanerBot not respecting Template:Bots?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiCleanerBot_not_respecting_Template:Bots?-20240609081500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: WikiCleanerBot not respecting Template:Bots?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Иованъ-20240609081500-WikiCleanerBot_not_respecting_Template:Bots?"></span>Hello, thank you for maintaining this bot. There is an article, <a href="/wiki/List_of_Glagolitic_inscriptions_(16th_century)" title="List of Glagolitic inscriptions (16th century)">List of Glagolitic inscriptions (16th century)</a>, with complex syntax. Am I incorrectly using the template to deny WikiCleanerBot or is WikiCleanerBot not compliant? <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%98%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8A" title="User:Иованъ">Ivan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%98%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8A" title="User talk:Иованъ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Иованъ-20240609081500-WikiCleanerBot_not_respecting_Template:Bots?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:15, 9 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Иованъ-20240609081500-WikiCleanerBot_not_respecting_Template:Bots?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Иованъ-20240609081500-WikiCleanerBot_not_respecting_Template:Bots?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240609154200-Иованъ-20240609081500"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:%D0%98%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8A" title="User:Иованъ">Иованъ</a>. The bot is partially compliant, it avoids editing articles with some templates (<span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:GOCEinuse" title="Template:GOCEinuse">GOCEinuse</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Inuse" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Inuse">Inuse</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:In_use" title="Template:In use">In use</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Nobots" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Nobots">Nobots</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>), but it doesn't understand the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template. If it's only for the comma moved before the reference, maybe you can try a nowiki tag between them. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240609154200-Иованъ-20240609081500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 9 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240609154200-Иованъ-20240609081500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240609154200-Иованъ-20240609081500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Иованъ-20240616195900-NicoV-20240609154200"></span>The page size is already large. The number of nowiki tags needed will grow. Could you make your bot exclusion compliant instead? <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%98%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8A" title="User:Иованъ">Ivan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%98%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8A" title="User talk:Иованъ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Иованъ-20240616195900-NicoV-20240609154200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 16 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Иованъ-20240616195900-NicoV-20240609154200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Иованъ-20240616195900-NicoV-20240609154200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240623111900-Иованъ-20240616195900"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:%D0%98%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8A" title="User:Иованъ">Иованъ</a>. My bot should now avoid editing pages with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> which has a deny parameter set. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240623111900-Иованъ-20240616195900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 23 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240623111900-Иованъ-20240616195900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240623111900-Иованъ-20240616195900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Иованъ-20240623112200-NicoV-20240623111900"></span>Thank you, sir! <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%98%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8A" title="User:Иованъ">Ivan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%98%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8A" title="User talk:Иованъ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Иованъ-20240623112200-NicoV-20240623111900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 23 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Иованъ-20240623112200-NicoV-20240623111900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Иованъ-20240623112200-NicoV-20240623111900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC_092_dump" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC_092_dump-20240624171100"><span id="Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI.2FWPC_092_dump"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC_092_dump-20240624171100"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC_092_dump" title="Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 092 dump">Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 092 dump</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC_092_dump-20240624171100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 092 dump"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonteemil-20240624171100-Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC_092_dump"></span>Hello! </p><p>Can you make your bot ignore colons <code>:</code> to fix double headers such as in <a href="/wiki/File:200_hundred_mill.jpg" title="File:200 hundred mill.jpg">File:200 hundred mill.jpg</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonteemil" title="User talk:Jonteemil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Jonteemil-20240624171100-Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC_092_dump" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonteemil-20240624171100-Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC_092_dump"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonteemil-20240624171100-Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC_092_dump"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240627211700-Jonteemil-20240624171100"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a>. Thanks for the idea! I modified WPCleaner to do that and ran my bot on the Files. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240627211700-Jonteemil-20240624171100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240627211700-Jonteemil-20240624171100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240627211700-Jonteemil-20240624171100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonteemil-20240701165800-NicoV-20240627211700"></span>Perfect. Do you thinks edits like <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1232042273" title="Special:Diff/1232042273">Special:Diff/1232042273</a>, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1232042140" title="Special:Diff/1232042140">Special:Diff/1232042140</a> and <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1232043027" title="Special:Diff/1232043027">Special:Diff/1232043027</a> can be automated as well? I suppose it would be a bit harder to code but not impossible I guess? <a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonteemil" title="User talk:Jonteemil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Jonteemil-20240701165800-NicoV-20240627211700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonteemil-20240701165800-NicoV-20240627211700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonteemil-20240701165800-NicoV-20240627211700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240702064800-Jonteemil-20240701165800"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a>. Well, I fear that the difficult part is how to avoid incorrect modifications : <ul><li>For the first and third diff, it's easy but there's a risk when some parts of the section should also be removed (partial duplicate)</li> <li>For the second diff, it makes text go into another section, so risky I think</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240702064800-Jonteemil-20240701165800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240702064800-Jonteemil-20240701165800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240702064800-Jonteemil-20240701165800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonteemil-20240709171600-NicoV-20240702064800"></span>I understand, thanks anyway for your work. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonteemil" title="User talk:Jonteemil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Jonteemil-20240709171600-NicoV-20240702064800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonteemil-20240709171600-NicoV-20240702064800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonteemil-20240709171600-NicoV-20240702064800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Another_suggestion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Another_suggestion-20240722214500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Another_suggestion-20240722214500"></span>Another suggestion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Another_suggestion-20240722214500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Another suggestion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonteemil-20240722214500-Another_suggestion"></span>Hello again, do you think you can make your bot ignore the parameters <code>image has rationale=yes</code> and <code>auto=yes</code> to fix situations like <a href="/wiki/File:Madonna_Frozen_Sickick.png" title="File:Madonna Frozen Sickick.png">File:Madonna Frozen Sickick.png</a>? The heading with the template with the parameters present should then be kept. I've seen many similar cases as this one so the numbers would probably be reduced down quite a bit. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonteemil" title="User talk:Jonteemil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Jonteemil-20240722214500-Another_suggestion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonteemil-20240722214500-Another_suggestion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonteemil-20240722214500-Another_suggestion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240726160600-Jonteemil-20240722214500"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a>.</dd> <dd>I will think about it but it seems complex to implement and to configure in a flexible way. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240726160600-Jonteemil-20240722214500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240726160600-Jonteemil-20240722214500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240726160600-Jonteemil-20240722214500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonteemil-20240727134100-NicoV-20240726160600"></span>Okay, I see. Thanks for your work anyway. If you decide to do it here is some info: There are 1177 files in both <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_non-free_files_with_NFUR_stated" title="Category:Wikipedia non-free files with NFUR stated">Category:Wikipedia non-free files with NFUR stated</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_non-free_files_for_NFUR_review" title="Category:Wikipedia non-free files for NFUR review">Category:Wikipedia non-free files for NFUR review</a>, see <a href="/wiki/Special:Search/file:_local:_incategory:%22Wikipedia_non-free_files_for_NFUR_review%22_incategory:%22Wikipedia_non-free_files_with_NFUR_stated%22" title="Special:Search/file: local: incategory:"Wikipedia non-free files for NFUR review" incategory:"Wikipedia non-free files with NFUR stated"">Special:Search/file: local: incategory:"Wikipedia non-free files for NFUR review" incategory:"Wikipedia non-free files with NFUR stated"</a>. Many of these won't be edited since they use two different licensing templates but some use the same template twice and it's these who would be edited. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonteemil" title="User talk:Jonteemil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Jonteemil-20240727134100-NicoV-20240726160600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 27 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonteemil-20240727134100-NicoV-20240726160600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonteemil-20240727134100-NicoV-20240726160600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus-20240728025400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus-20240728025400"></span><a href="/wiki/Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus" title="Scorpaenopsis oxycephalus">Scorpaenopsis oxycephalus</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus-20240728025400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Scorpaenopsis oxycephalus"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sumanuil-20240728025400-Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus"></span>Your bot "fixed" the file names in the gallery. Can you please get it to stop? It's not the first bot to do this.<span style="color:Purple"><b> - </b></span><a href="/wiki/User:Sumanuil" title="User:Sumanuil"><span style="color:Purple"><i><b>Sumanuil</b></i></span></a><span style="color:Purple"><b>. </b></span><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sumanuil" title="User talk:Sumanuil"><span style="color:Purple">(talk to me)</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Sumanuil-20240728025400-Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sumanuil-20240728025400-Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sumanuil-20240728025400-Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Sumanuil" title="User:Sumanuil"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20240728132700-Sumanuil-20240728025400"></span>Sumanuil</a>, it appears that those file names have invisible Unicode characters in them. You should ask for the files to be moved to names without those characters in them. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Jonesey95-20240728132700-Sumanuil-20240728025400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20240728132700-Sumanuil-20240728025400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20240728132700-Sumanuil-20240728025400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240728143000-Sumanuil-20240728025400"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Sumanuil" title="User:Sumanuil">Sumanuil</a>. The problem is that the file names on commons contain invisible Unicode control characters in them, like @<a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> said.</dd> <dd>I've requested a renaming on Commons to remove the control characters. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240728143000-Sumanuil-20240728025400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240728143000-Sumanuil-20240728025400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240728143000-Sumanuil-20240728025400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sumanuil-20240728213700-NicoV-20240728143000"></span>Thanks, but is there some way to keep bots away from file names in future?<span style="color:Purple"><b> - </b></span><a href="/wiki/User:Sumanuil" title="User:Sumanuil"><span style="color:Purple"><i><b>Sumanuil</b></i></span></a><span style="color:Purple"><b>. </b></span><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sumanuil" title="User talk:Sumanuil"><span style="color:Purple">(talk to me)</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Sumanuil-20240728213700-NicoV-20240728143000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sumanuil-20240728213700-NicoV-20240728143000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sumanuil-20240728213700-NicoV-20240728143000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240730062300-Sumanuil-20240728213700"></span>Well @<a href="/wiki/User:Sumanuil" title="User:Sumanuil">Sumanuil</a>: once the files have been properly renamed on Commons, the bots won't have to remove the invisible unicode control characters in their name, so they won't change them... <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240730062300-Sumanuil-20240728213700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240730062300-Sumanuil-20240728213700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240730062300-Sumanuil-20240728213700"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sumanuil-20240730081800-NicoV-20240728143000"></span>That won't solve the larger problem of bots "correcting" file names.<span style="color:Purple"><b> - </b></span><a href="/wiki/User:Sumanuil" title="User:Sumanuil"><span style="color:Purple"><i><b>Sumanuil</b></i></span></a><span style="color:Purple"><b>. </b></span><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sumanuil" title="User talk:Sumanuil"><span style="color:Purple">(talk to me)</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Sumanuil-20240730081800-NicoV-20240728143000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sumanuil-20240730081800-NicoV-20240728143000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sumanuil-20240730081800-NicoV-20240728143000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240730084100-Sumanuil-20240730081800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sumanuil" title="User:Sumanuil">Sumanuil</a> : I don't understand what problem you are referring to ?</dd> <dd>Here, files were incorrectly named in Commons because their name contained invisible characters that made them more difficult to use.</dd> <dd>In the end, the result of the bot changing the file names is that the files were properly renamed on Commons and in all the articles where they were used. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240730084100-Sumanuil-20240730081800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:41, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240730084100-Sumanuil-20240730081800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240730084100-Sumanuil-20240730081800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sumanuil-20240730210300-Sumanuil-20240730081800"></span>These are not the only file names that contain "errors" from a bot's perspective. There's plenty with misspelled names, extra spaces, and misplaced apostrophes. All might be subject to such "correction" in the future. But, then again, bots don't make these mistakes as often as people.<span style="color:Purple"><b> - </b></span><a href="/wiki/User:Sumanuil" title="User:Sumanuil"><span style="color:Purple"><i><b>Sumanuil</b></i></span></a><span style="color:Purple"><b>. </b></span><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sumanuil" title="User talk:Sumanuil"><span style="color:Purple">(talk to me)</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Sumanuil-20240730210300-Sumanuil-20240730081800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sumanuil-20240730210300-Sumanuil-20240730081800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sumanuil-20240730210300-Sumanuil-20240730081800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-109.52.151.46-20240731061900-Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus"></span>Hello and thank you in first for your great work in the community. Since you have always cleaned and modified the page with great care often, I wanted to ask you for the possibility and help of having more control authority and a general cleaning of the page of the supermodel <a href="/w/index.php?title=Fabio_Mancini&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Fabio Mancini (page does not exist)">Fabio Mancini</a>. Because it is often vandalised unnecessarily. Thank you in advance for your wonderful work <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.52.151.46" title="Special:Contributions/109.52.151.46">109.52.151.46</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:109.52.151.46&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:109.52.151.46 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-109.52.151.46-20240731061900-Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-109.52.151.46-20240731061900-Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-109.52.151.46-20240731061900-Scorpaenopsis_oxycephalus"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cosmetic_edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cosmetic_edit-20240805194000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cosmetic_edit-20240805194000"></span>Cosmetic edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cosmetic_edit-20240805194000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Cosmetic edit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kolkata&curid=47905&diff=1238738197&oldid=1238216670"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sohom_Datta-20240805194000-Cosmetic_edit"></span>[1]</a> seems to be a cosmetic edit, could it be possible to detect these kinds of edits and only do them with more substantial changes ? <a href="/wiki/User:Sohom_Datta" title="User:Sohom Datta"><b class="skin-invert" style="color:#795cb2;">Sohom</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sohom_Datta" title="User talk:Sohom Datta"><span class="skin-invert" style="color: #36c;">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Sohom_Datta-20240805194000-Cosmetic_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sohom_Datta-20240805194000-Cosmetic_edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sohom_Datta-20240805194000-Cosmetic_edit"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240806053800-Sohom_Datta-20240805194000"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Sohom_Datta" title="User:Sohom Datta">Sohom Datta</a>. This was part of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/WikiCleanerBot_21" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/WikiCleanerBot 21">bot request use cases</a>. It would require more development on my side just to exclude some rare cases from automatic fixing, I would prefer to avoid it. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240806053800-Sohom_Datta-20240805194000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:38, 6 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240806053800-Sohom_Datta-20240805194000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240806053800-Sohom_Datta-20240805194000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20240806192400-NicoV-20240806053800"></span>It could be argued that the edit is not technically cosmetic. If you mouse over the link prior to the edit, you can see that the link includes a leading space. After the edit, the link does not include a leading space. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Jonesey95-20240806192400-NicoV-20240806053800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20240806192400-NicoV-20240806053800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20240806192400-NicoV-20240806053800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sohom_Datta-20240807172500-Jonesey95-20240806192400"></span>Fair enough. <a href="/wiki/User:Sohom_Datta" title="User:Sohom Datta"><b class="skin-invert" style="color:#795cb2;">Sohom</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sohom_Datta" title="User talk:Sohom Datta"><span class="skin-invert" style="color: #36c;">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Sohom_Datta-20240807172500-Jonesey95-20240806192400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 7 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sohom_Datta-20240807172500-Jonesey95-20240806192400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sohom_Datta-20240807172500-Jonesey95-20240806192400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="List_of_crinoid_genera" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_crinoid_genera-20240811015400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_crinoid_genera-20240811015400"></span>List of crinoid genera<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_crinoid_genera-20240811015400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: List of crinoid genera"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crinoidphan-20240811015400-List_of_crinoid_genera"></span>This alteration makes no sense whatsoever. First some idiot went in and changed the reference from "pl. 11" to "p. 111". So I had to correct that. Now you've gone in and moved the colon indicating that what follows is the detail ("Plate 11, fig 8" - just like a page number) to BEFORE the basic reference, which I have now had to go in and correct AGAIN. How does your action IMPROVE wikipedia?? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Crinoidphan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Crinoidphan (page does not exist)">Crinoidphan</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Crinoidphan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Crinoidphan (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Crinoidphan-20240811015400-List_of_crinoid_genera" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crinoidphan-20240811015400-List_of_crinoid_genera"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crinoidphan-20240811015400-List_of_crinoid_genera"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240812063200-Crinoidphan-20240811015400"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Crinoidphan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Crinoidphan (page does not exist)">Crinoidphan</a></dd> <dd>First of all, stop being aggressive on my talk page and yelling, or stay out of it...</dd> <dd>Second, what is your strange syntax which isn't used anywhere else ? My bot tries to apply <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOS">WP:MOS</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240812063200-Crinoidphan-20240811015400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240812063200-Crinoidphan-20240811015400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240812063200-Crinoidphan-20240811015400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crinoidphan-20240812100400-NicoV-20240812063200"></span>I'm using the syntax used by Webster in Bibliography and Index of Paleozoid Crinoids, Coronates and Hemistreptocrinoids, 1758-2015 <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://crinoids.azurewebsites.net/">[2]</a> p.660:</dd> <dd>"CRYPTODISCUS Hall, 1865a, Pl. 11, fig. 8. *C. bilobus Weller, 1897, SD. Hall, 1868, Fig. 18. Weller, S., 1897, p. 744. Weller, 1900, p. 121. Bather in Lankester, 1900, p. 164. Bassler, 1938, p. 77. Bassler and Moodey, 1943, p. 348."</dd> <dd>When I cite it as quoted [Pl. 11,] (don't get get sidetracked by the incorrect figure number - I've checked the original and it is fig 18) it gets changed to "p.l11" and people get confused and can't find it [see "clarification needed" comment]. When I correct that and use the word "plate" in full so that won't get changed again, this weird punctuation gets added.</dd> <dd>So what syntax should I use to prevent it being incorrectly amended again? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Crinoidphan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Crinoidphan (page does not exist)">Crinoidphan</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Crinoidphan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Crinoidphan (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Crinoidphan-20240812100400-NicoV-20240812063200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:04, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crinoidphan-20240812100400-NicoV-20240812063200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crinoidphan-20240812100400-NicoV-20240812063200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20240812115300-Crinoidphan-20240812100400"></span>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Crinoidphan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Crinoidphan (page does not exist)">Crinoidphan</a>. I suggest adding a <code class="nowrap" style=""><sup>...</sup></code> tag, like <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1239916108" title="Special:Diff/1239916108">this</a>. It also has the advantage of having the text with the same size as the other lines. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20240812115300-Crinoidphan-20240812100400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20240812115300-Crinoidphan-20240812100400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20240812115300-Crinoidphan-20240812100400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crinoidphan-20240813005600-NicoV-20240812115300"></span>OK thanks. I've added that to my template for future entries. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Crinoidphan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Crinoidphan (page does not exist)">Crinoidphan</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Crinoidphan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Crinoidphan (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Crinoidphan-20240813005600-NicoV-20240812115300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crinoidphan-20240813005600-NicoV-20240812115300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crinoidphan-20240813005600-NicoV-20240812115300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="can_you_all_kindly_stop_with_this_stupid_bot_nonsense?_you_introduce_more_errors_than_you_fix" data-mw-thread-id="h-can_you_all_kindly_stop_with_this_stupid_bot_nonsense?_you_introduce_more_errors-20240930233700"><span id="can_you_all_kindly_stop_with_this_stupid_bot_nonsense.3F_you_introduce_more_errors_than_you_fix"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-can_you_all_kindly_stop_with_this_stupid_bot_nonsense?_you_introduce_more_errors-20240930233700"></span>can you all kindly stop with this stupid bot nonsense? you introduce more errors than you fix<span data-mw-comment-end="h-can_you_all_kindly_stop_with_this_stupid_bot_nonsense?_you_introduce_more_errors-20240930233700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: can you all kindly stop with this stupid bot nonsense? you introduce more errors than you fix"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shorepine-20240930233700-can_you_all_kindly_stop_with_this_stupid_bot_nonsense?_you_introduce_more_errors"></span>you're making hours of work that has to be hand re-coded. so would you kindly just stop. i have no confidence that you will. i know coders. they are my friends. but i've never met one willing to concede that their tech handyness is trumped by their lack of real-world comprehension. its a solipsistic world of self-congratulation. their needs to be some more strict evaluation before these ecosystem degrading pathogens are unleashed on the people doing the real work - the work that requires subject matter expertise - say about copy-editing perhaps. <a href="/wiki/User:Shorepine" title="User:Shorepine">Shorepine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shorepine" title="User talk:Shorepine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Shorepine-20240930233700-can_you_all_kindly_stop_with_this_stupid_bot_nonsense?_you_introduce_more_errors" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shorepine-20240930233700-can_you_all_kindly_stop_with_this_stupid_bot_nonsense?_you_introduce_more_errors"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shorepine-20240930233700-can_you_all_kindly_stop_with_this_stupid_bot_nonsense?_you_introduce_more_errors"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Shorepine" title="User:Shorepine"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241001181500-Shorepine-20240930233700"></span>Shorepine</a>, please link to diffs of edits that you object to. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Jonesey95-20241001181500-Shorepine-20240930233700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241001181500-Shorepine-20240930233700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241001181500-Shorepine-20240930233700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shorepine-20241002195500-Jonesey95-20241001181500"></span>thanks for touching base @<a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a>. i was having a moment of generalized frustration with a number of bots that work by overwriting pages and files. some of which have created serious problems.</dd> <dd>my concern is not primarily with the rule set the bot implements (that is a whole discussion about national punctuation standards, reasons to depart from the standard in specific use cases), but its mode of operation - overwriting. i appreciate the approach taken by bots whose the mode of operation is to provide instant notification of an error (an error like coding a link to a disambiguation page) or a notice of an error as an alert rather than overwriting. if its possible to implement a notice and the option to accept the changes, rather than an overwrite without notice that may go unnoticed and create possible issues, that is my preference. <a href="/wiki/User:Shorepine" title="User:Shorepine">Shorepine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shorepine" title="User talk:Shorepine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Shorepine-20241002195500-Jonesey95-20241001181500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 2 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shorepine-20241002195500-Jonesey95-20241001181500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shorepine-20241002195500-Jonesey95-20241001181500"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Shorepine" title="User:Shorepine"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241002201200-Shorepine-20241002195500"></span>Shorepine</a>, if you actually want help, link to a problematic diff, or to a page that a bot has edited incorrectly. If you do not provide links to specific edits, nobody can help you. The only recent edit I can find that you appear to have objected to is <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bar_%28heraldry%29&diff=1248183468&oldid=1248110730">this valid edit</a>; see <a href="/wiki/MOS:REFPUNCT" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:REFPUNCT">MOS:REFPUNCT</a>.</dd> <dd>I don't know what you mean by "overwrite". Bots edit in the same way as other editors. If a bot is causing a problem on a specific page, contact the bot's owner, link to the diffs that show the problem, and ask for help. If that does not work, many bots can be excluded from a page (with a valid reason) using <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">Bots</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Jonesey95-20241002201200-Shorepine-20241002195500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 2 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241002201200-Shorepine-20241002195500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241002201200-Shorepine-20241002195500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20241014075300-Jonesey95-20241002201200"></span>Hello @<a href="/wiki/User:Shorepine" title="User:Shorepine">Shorepine</a>.</dd> <dd>Given your rather impolite message, and the lack of actual facts confirming what you said (stupid bot nonsense, more errors than you fix, hours of work...), I suggest that either: <ul><li>You provide actual facts (diffs) showing that my bot edits are causing troubles, as already requested several times by @<a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a>.</li> <li>Apologize</li> <li>Leave this talk page</li></ul></dd> <dd>I tend to provide fixes when actual problems are reported, so I don't really appreciate your message about developers in general. <a href="/wiki/User:NicoV" title="User:NicoV">NicoV</a> <sup>(<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:NicoV" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV">Talk on frwiki</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-NicoV-20241014075300-Jonesey95-20241002201200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NicoV-20241014075300-Jonesey95-20241002201200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NicoV-20241014075300-Jonesey95-20241002201200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shorepine-20241014225500-NicoV-20241014075300"></span>i was expressing a general sense of frustration. not so much at the rule set your bot implements but its mode of operation. i made that clear. my minimal request is for a notice to recent editors that your bot has edited the page. i understand your taking offense at my general remarks, which were mainly directed at poorly written bots that wreck pages and files. i've expressed my appreciation for some bots and their mode of operation specifically. but when i look through page history and see a bot has operated / overwritten / automatically edited a page, i do find i have to check the page carefully to make sure it hasnt been corrupted in some way. but again, that is because of how some bots and therefor bots in general operate, not your bot specifically necessarily. you may be intimately familiar with the specifics of your bot, but you cant expect the average editor to have that knowledge. its the automation, without a specific human editor reviewing and approving the edits that concerns me. that bots are not being reviewed properly is evident in how some are creating problems. that is my issue. your bot may be perfect in its edits, but what can editor know of that without rviewing the edits. if problems arent caught in time, and edits are subsequently made without being aware of them, it multplies the effort needed to correct the. <a href="/wiki/User:Shorepine" title="User:Shorepine">Shorepine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shorepine" title="User talk:Shorepine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Shorepine-20241014225500-NicoV-20241014075300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shorepine-20241014225500-NicoV-20241014075300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shorepine-20241014225500-NicoV-20241014075300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User:WikiCleanerBot_lint_tasks" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:WikiCleanerBot_lint_tasks-20241028115600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User:WikiCleanerBot_lint_tasks-20241028115600"></span>User:WikiCleanerBot lint tasks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User:WikiCleanerBot_lint_tasks-20241028115600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicoV&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: User:WikiCleanerBot lint tasks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-20241028115600-User:WikiCleanerBot_lint_tasks"></span>Hey, I was wondering if it is possible for your bot's lint tasks (7, 10, 17, 22) edits to be tagged with the <a href="/wiki/Special:Tags" title="Special:Tags">Special:Tags</a> "fixed lint errors" so this can be better tracked. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoV#c-Gonnym-20241028115600-User:WikiCleanerBot_lint_tasks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-20241028115600-User:WikiCleanerBot_lint_tasks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-20241028115600-User:WikiCleanerBot_lint_tasks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NicoV-20241028120700-Gonnym-20241028115600"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>.</dd> <dd>Not possible with the current code. 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