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ul{margin:0.1em 0.8em 0 1.6em;text-align:left}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .talkheader{min-width:80%}}</style><table role="presentation" class="tmbox tmbox-notice talkheader plainlinks" id="talkheader" style="border-collapse: separate;"><tbody><tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid #c0c090; font-weight: bold;">This is the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">talk page</a> for discussing improvements to the <a href="/wiki/Template:Full_citation_needed" title="Template:Full citation needed">Full citation needed</a> template.<br/></td> </tr> <tr> <td> <div class="talkheader-body"> <div class="talkheader-help"> <ul><li>Put new text under old text. <strong><a href="/wiki/Special:NewSection/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed" title="Special:NewSection/Template talk:Full citation needed">Click here to start a new topic.</a></strong></li> <li>New to Wikipedia? Welcome! <a href="/wiki/Help:Introduction" title="Help:Introduction">Learn to edit</a>; <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Questions" title="Wikipedia:Questions">get help</a>.</li></ul> </div> <div class="talkheader-policies"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith" title="Wikipedia:Assume good faith">Assume good faith</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility">Be polite</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks" title="Wikipedia:No personal attacks">avoid personal attacks</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers" title="Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers">Be welcoming to newcomers</a></li> <li>Seek <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_requests" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution requests">dispute resolution</a> if needed</li></ul> </div> </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rationale" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rationale"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rationale"></span>Rationale<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rationale"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Full_citation_needed&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Rationale"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>I've created this tag as an alternative to the {{fact}} tag, for the cases where a reference is alluded to, or given in part, but not specified sufficiently precisely to be located. The factuality may or may not be in question. </p> <dl><dt>Examples</dt></dl> <ul><li>Jane Doe refers readers of her book to her journal article covering the experimental methodology.<sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#What_information_to_include" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources"><span title="A complete citation is needed.">full citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup></li> <li>George W Bush claimed his "God is not neutral" comment was being taken out of context.<sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#What_information_to_include" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources"><span title="A complete citation is needed.">full citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup></li> <li>Pink elephants show a preference for Pepsi (Jackson 2001),<sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#What_information_to_include" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources"><span title="A complete citation is needed.">full citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup> where white elephants prefer Coke (Prince 1999).<sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#What_information_to_include" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources"><span title="A complete citation is needed.">full citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style-2011-12-18T23:33:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Citing_sources.23Citation_style"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style-2011-12-18T23:33:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style-2011-12-18T23:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Full_citation_needed&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gadget850-2011-12-18T23:33:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style"></span>Why does this link to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources">Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style</a>? ---<i><b>— <a href="/wiki/User:Gadget850" title="User:Gadget850"><span style="color:gray">Gadget850 (Ed)</span></a><span style="color:darkblue"> </span></b></i><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gadget850" title="User talk:Gadget850"><i>talk</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Gadget850-2011-12-18T23:33:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 18 December 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gadget850-2011-12-18T23:33:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gadget850-2011-12-18T23:33:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Citation_style"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gyrofrog-2012-02-08T20:46:00.000Z-Gadget850-2011-12-18T23:33:00.000Z"></span>I noticed this, too. (I am guessing that the section name(s) in "Wikipedia:Citing_sources" had changed.) I think it would be better to link to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#What_information_to_include" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources">Wikipedia:Citing sources#What information to include </a> (a.k.a. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITEHOW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITEHOW">WP:CITEHOW</a>). -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gyrofrog" title="User:Gyrofrog">Gyrofrog </a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gyrofrog" title="User talk:Gyrofrog">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Gyrofrog-2012-02-08T20:46:00.000Z-Gadget850-2011-12-18T23:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 8 February 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gyrofrog-2012-02-08T20:46:00.000Z-Gadget850-2011-12-18T23:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gyrofrog-2012-02-08T20:46:00.000Z-Gadget850-2011-12-18T23:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DoctorKubla-2013-02-06T18:29:00.000Z-Gyrofrog-2012-02-08T20:46:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span> <a href="/wiki/User:DoctorKubla" title="User:DoctorKubla">DoctorKubla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoctorKubla" title="User talk:DoctorKubla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-DoctorKubla-2013-02-06T18:29:00.000Z-Gyrofrog-2012-02-08T20:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DoctorKubla-2013-02-06T18:29:00.000Z-Gyrofrog-2012-02-08T20:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DoctorKubla-2013-02-06T18:29:00.000Z-Gyrofrog-2012-02-08T20:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Categories_missing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Categories_missing-2012-11-23T17:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Categories_missing-2012-11-23T17:27:00.000Z"></span>Categories missing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Categories_missing-2012-11-23T17:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Full_citation_needed&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Categories missing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keith_D-2012-11-23T17:27:00.000Z-Categories_missing"></span>Just used this and expected to find the article placed in some maintenance category but there weren't any. Should there be some maintenance categories added to this template so the articles can be tracked and problem dealt with? <a href="/wiki/User:Keith_D" title="User:Keith D">Keith D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Keith_D" title="User talk:Keith D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Keith_D-2012-11-23T17:27:00.000Z-Categories_missing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 23 November 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keith_D-2012-11-23T17:27:00.000Z-Categories_missing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keith_D-2012-11-23T17:27:00.000Z-Categories_missing"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z"></span>Requested move<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Full_citation_needed&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Requested move"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dekimasu-2014-10-31T17:12:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span>The following is a closed discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>consensus to move</b> the template, per the discussion below. Double redirects fixed, please help with documentation if I missed anything. <a href="/wiki/User:Dekimasu" title="User:Dekimasu">Dekimasu</a><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dekimasu" title="User talk:Dekimasu">よ!</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Dekimasu-2014-10-31T17:12:00.000Z-Requested_move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dekimasu-2014-10-31T17:12:00.000Z-Requested_move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dekimasu-2014-10-31T17:12:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><a href="/wiki/Template:Full" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Full"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span>Template:Full</a> → <a href="/wiki/Template:Full_citation_needed" title="Template:Full citation needed">Template:Full citation needed</a> – To match <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Citation_needed" title="Template:Citation needed">Citation needed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, and because we've had a long-standing trend to move at least the more commonly used templates to descriptive names, and use shorthand monickers like <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Full" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Full">full</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> as shortcut redirects (e.g. <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cn" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cn">cn</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fact" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Fact">fact</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> redir to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Citation_needed" title="Template:Citation needed">citation needed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>). <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — <a href="/wiki/User:SMcCandlish" title="User:SMcCandlish"><b>SMcCandlish</b> ☺</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SMcCandlish" title="User talk:SMcCandlish">☏</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish" title="Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish">¢</a> ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z-Requested_move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:54, 25 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z-Requested_move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Debresser-2014-10-25T15:58:00.000Z-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z"></span>Sounds like a good idea. <a href="/wiki/User:Debresser" title="User:Debresser">Debresser</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Debresser" title="User talk:Debresser">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Debresser-2014-10-25T15:58:00.000Z-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 25 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Debresser-2014-10-25T15:58:00.000Z-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Debresser-2014-10-25T15:58:00.000Z-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Katy_Gallaghon-2014-10-25T19:12:00.000Z-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> move to have a name easier to understand. <a href="/wiki/User:Katy_Gallaghon" title="User:Katy Gallaghon">Katy Gallaghon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Katy_Gallaghon" title="User talk:Katy Gallaghon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Katy_Gallaghon-2014-10-25T19:12:00.000Z-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 25 October 2014 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Katy_Gallaghon-2014-10-25T19:12:00.000Z-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Katy_Gallaghon-2014-10-25T19:12:00.000Z-SMcCandlish-2014-10-25T05:54:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Purpose" data-mw-thread-id="h-Purpose-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Purpose-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Purpose<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Purpose-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Full_citation_needed&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Purpose"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z-Purpose"></span>I am not sure what purpose this serves. We already have <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Citation_broken" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Citation broken">Citation broken</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and multiple other templates to request specific citation details. --<a href="/wiki/User:Chealer" title="User:Chealer">Chealer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chealer" title="User talk:Chealer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z-Purpose" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:31, 29 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z-Purpose"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z-Purpose"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Some1Redirects4You-2015-04-20T03:13:00.000Z-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Honestly <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Citation_broken" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Citation broken">Citation broken</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> seems the pointless one. Between <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Dead_link" title="Template:Dead link">dead link</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Full" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Full">full</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> both of which have clear meaning in my mind, it's not clear what else "citation broken" could flag. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Some1Redirects4You&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Some1Redirects4You (page does not exist)">Some1Redirects4You</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Some1Redirects4You" title="User talk:Some1Redirects4You">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Some1Redirects4You-2015-04-20T03:13:00.000Z-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:13, 20 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Some1Redirects4You-2015-04-20T03:13:00.000Z-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Some1Redirects4You-2015-04-20T03:13:00.000Z-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jason_Quinn-2016-10-01T05:24:00.000Z-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Agree with Some1Redirects4You. This template serves a specific semantic purpose while, if anything, you have it backwards regarding necessity. <a href="/wiki/User:Jason_Quinn" title="User:Jason Quinn">Jason Quinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jason_Quinn" title="User talk:Jason Quinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Jason_Quinn-2016-10-01T05:24:00.000Z-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:24, 1 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jason_Quinn-2016-10-01T05:24:00.000Z-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jason_Quinn-2016-10-01T05:24:00.000Z-Chealer-2015-01-29T22:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Big_version_of_this?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Big_version_of_this?-2015-04-20T03:17:00.000Z"><span id="Big_version_of_this.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Big_version_of_this?-2015-04-20T03:17:00.000Z"></span>Big version of this?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Big_version_of_this?-2015-04-20T03:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Full_citation_needed&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Big version of this?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Some1Redirects4You-2015-04-20T03:17:00.000Z-Big_version_of_this?"></span>In some cases people are so lazy with the citations that they just drop very incomplete citations all over the place. A prime example is <a href="/wiki/Distributive_property#Notes" title="Distributive property">Distributive_property#Notes</a> which refers to who-knows-what books in most of its inline citations. So, is there a better way to flag these articles other than individually tagging every unclear citation? I suppose I could (and for now I will) add a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cleanup" title="Template:Cleanup">cleanup</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> tag with a custom message. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Some1Redirects4You&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Some1Redirects4You (page does not exist)">Some1Redirects4You</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Some1Redirects4You" title="User talk:Some1Redirects4You">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Some1Redirects4You-2015-04-20T03:17:00.000Z-Big_version_of_this?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:17, 20 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Some1Redirects4You-2015-04-20T03:17:00.000Z-Big_version_of_this?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Some1Redirects4You-2015-04-20T03:17:00.000Z-Big_version_of_this?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Date_parameter" data-mw-thread-id="h-Date_parameter-2015-07-12T02:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Date_parameter-2015-07-12T02:06:00.000Z"></span>Date parameter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Date_parameter-2015-07-12T02:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Full_citation_needed&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Date parameter"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Declangi-2015-07-12T02:06:00.000Z-Date_parameter"></span>I didn't realise that there is a date parameter until seeing one on a bot edit. Perhaps the documentation could mention this (and any other parameters). <a href="/wiki/User:Declangi" title="User:Declangi">Declangi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Declangi" title="User talk:Declangi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Declangi-2015-07-12T02:06:00.000Z-Date_parameter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:06, 12 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Declangi-2015-07-12T02:06:00.000Z-Date_parameter"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Declangi-2015-07-12T02:06:00.000Z-Date_parameter"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Debresser-2015-07-12T19:41:00.000Z-Declangi-2015-07-12T02:06:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span> Please check. <a href="/wiki/User:Debresser" title="User:Debresser">Debresser</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Debresser" title="User talk:Debresser">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Debresser-2015-07-12T19:41:00.000Z-Declangi-2015-07-12T02:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 12 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Debresser-2015-07-12T19:41:00.000Z-Declangi-2015-07-12T02:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Debresser-2015-07-12T19:41:00.000Z-Declangi-2015-07-12T02:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Declangi-2015-07-13T00:44:00.000Z-Debresser-2015-07-12T19:41:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Debresser" title="User:Debresser">Debresser</a>, looks fine. <a href="/wiki/User:Declangi" title="User:Declangi">Declangi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Declangi" title="User talk:Declangi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Declangi-2015-07-13T00:44:00.000Z-Debresser-2015-07-12T19:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:44, 13 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Declangi-2015-07-13T00:44:00.000Z-Debresser-2015-07-12T19:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Declangi-2015-07-13T00:44:00.000Z-Debresser-2015-07-12T19:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Does_it_go_inside_or_outside_a_<ref></ref>?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Does_it_go_inside_or_outside_a_<ref></ref>?-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z"><span id="Does_it_go_inside_or_outside_a_.3Cref.3E.3C.2Fref.3E.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Does_it_go_inside_or_outside_a_<ref></ref>?-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z"></span>Does it go inside or outside a <ref></ref>?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Does_it_go_inside_or_outside_a_<ref></ref>?-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Full_citation_needed&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Does it go inside or outside a <ref></ref>?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z-Does_it_go_inside_or_outside_a_<ref></ref>?"></span>The example provided in the documentation, </p> <ul><li>Jane Doe refers readers of her book to her journal article covering the experimental methodology.<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Full" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Full">Full</a>|date=November 2024}}</code> <dl><dd><b>Result:</b> Jane Doe refers readers of her book to her journal article covering the experimental methodology.<sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#What_information_to_include" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources"><span title="A complete citation is needed.">full citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup></dd></dl></li></ul> <p>does not show where the template should go if there is an incomplete citation with reference tags. Should it be this way: </p> <ul><li>Nixon resigned August 9, 1974.<ref>''The New York Times''</ref><code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Full" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Full">Full</a>|date=November 2024}}</code> <dl><dd><b>Result:</b> Nixon resigned August 9, 1974.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#What_information_to_include" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources"><span title="A complete citation is needed.">full citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup></dd></dl></li></ul> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><i>The New York Times</i></span> </li> </ol></div></div> <p>Or should it be this way: </p> <ul><li>Nixon resigned August 9, 1974.<ref>''The New York Times''<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Full" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Full">Full</a>|date=November 2024}}</code></ref> <dl><dd><b>Result:</b> Nixon resigned August 9, 1974.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></dd></dl></li></ul> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1239543626"><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-2">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><i>The New York Times</i><sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#What_information_to_include" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources"><span title="A complete citation is needed.">full citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup></span> </li> </ol></div></div> <p>I believe that the template should be included outside the ref tags because a vague reference used multiple times might need a different repair each time it is used, as in my example where only the newspaper's name is given in the reference. Others may disagree. We need to decide and we need to say in the template documentation. —<a href="/wiki/User:Anomalocaris" title="User:Anomalocaris">Anomalocaris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anomalocaris" title="User talk:Anomalocaris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z-Does_it_go_inside_or_outside_a_<ref></ref>?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 1 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z-Does_it_go_inside_or_outside_a_<ref></ref>?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z-Does_it_go_inside_or_outside_a_<ref></ref>?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-71.41.210.146-2016-12-30T21:08:00.000Z-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Anomalocaris" title="User:Anomalocaris">Anomalocaris</a>:</span> Good question, and I'd like to know too, but I don't. It may depend on context. In your example, it's plausible that multiple references to one author or periodical would need to be replaced with multiple specific citations. In other contexts, it may be clear that one book or journal article is being referred to, and tagging one place rather than ten would be a lot less annoying for all participants. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.41.210.146" title="Special:Contributions/71.41.210.146">71.41.210.146</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:71.41.210.146" title="User talk:71.41.210.146">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-71.41.210.146-2016-12-30T21:08:00.000Z-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 30 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-71.41.210.146-2016-12-30T21:08:00.000Z-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-71.41.210.146-2016-12-30T21:08:00.000Z-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DeNoel-2021-01-13T05:06:00.000Z-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z"></span>I would consider this as relevant to the other citation maintenance templates (e.g. <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Citation_needed" title="Template:Citation needed">Citation needed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> ). When there is a problem with the inline citation, the maintenance tags normally appear in the body of the article, so I would expect <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Full_citation_needed" title="Template:Full citation needed">Full citation needed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to follow suit. The <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Dead_link" title="Template:Dead link">Dead link</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template is different, as the cited reference may be perfectly valid, but has suffered link rot (which may be remedied by adding the archive parameters). At this present time, the {{Full citation needed}} template page demonstrates placing the template outside the <ref> tags, and my recommendation is that this is how it should appear.<br/> — <a href="/wiki/User:DeNoel" class="mw-redirect" title="User:DeNoel">Christopher, Sheridan, OR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DeNoel" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:DeNoel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-DeNoel-2021-01-13T05:06:00.000Z-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:06, 13 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DeNoel-2021-01-13T05:06:00.000Z-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DeNoel-2021-01-13T05:06:00.000Z-Anomalocaris-2016-11-01T17:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018-2018-09-01T10:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018-2018-09-01T10:24:00.000Z"></span>Template-protected edit request on 1 September 2018<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018-2018-09-01T10:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Full_citation_needed&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Template-protected edit request on 1 September 2018"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-01T10:24:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="template"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Please replace with sandbox. This requested edit changes the tool-tip from "A more detailed citation is required." to A complete citation is needed". It also changes the category from <a href="/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_more_detailed_references" title="Category:Articles needing more detailed references">Category:Articles needing more detailed references</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Articles_with_incomplete_citations" title="Category:Articles with incomplete citations">Category:Articles with incomplete citations</a> and adds the same category as scheme for date-based categories. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_more_detailed_references" title="Category:Articles needing more detailed references">Category:Articles needing more detailed references</a> is currently populated by this template and <a href="/wiki/Template:Specify" title="Template:Specify">Template:Specify</a> which has a very different purpose. This template can be described as the in-line version of <a href="/wiki/Template:Ref_expand" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ref expand">Template:Ref expand</a>, which populates <a href="/wiki/Category:Articles_with_incomplete_citations" title="Category:Articles with incomplete citations">Category:Articles with incomplete citations</a>, and therefore the latter is a better category for this template to populate. <a href="/wiki/User:Bsherr" title="User:Bsherr">Bsherr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bsherr" title="User talk:Bsherr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Bsherr-2018-09-01T10:24:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:24, 1 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-01T10:24:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bsherr-2018-09-01T10:24:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T06:11:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-01T10:24:00.000Z"></span>Isn't <code>cat</code> redundant if you're specifying <code>cat-date</code>, or do you really want the page appearing in both parent & child categories? <a href="/wiki/User:Cabayi" title="User:Cabayi">Cabayi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cabayi" title="User talk:Cabayi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T06:11:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-01T10:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 2 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T06:11:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-01T10:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T06:11:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-01T10:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T07:42:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T06:11:00.000Z"></span>Ugh, really good question. So this template transcludes <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fix" title="Template:Fix">fix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. My reading of the documentation there <i>was</i> that you need both (i.e. <code>cat</code> only works if <code>date</code> is null). This is consistent with the code currently in the widely-used <a href="/wiki/Template:Citation_needed" title="Template:Citation needed">Template:Citation needed</a>, which uses both.</dd> <dd><i>But</i> I just dug through the code of <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fix" title="Template:Fix">fix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and, if I'm seeing it correctly, you're absolutely right that you only need to fill in <code>cat-date</code>. Actually, leaving <code>cat</code> empty will default to categorizing the page in <a href="/wiki/Category:All_pages_needing_cleanup" title="Category:All pages needing cleanup">Category:All pages needing cleanup</a>, which would be desirable for this template. If you or anyone else can put a second set of eyes on this and confirm I have it correct now, that would be super appreciated.</dd> <dd>Of course, <i>none</i> of this is in the documentation for <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fix" title="Template:Fix">fix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. So that's my next project, I guess. Thanks for flagging this for me. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bsherr" title="User:Bsherr">Bsherr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bsherr" title="User talk:Bsherr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T07:42:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T06:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 2 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T07:42:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T06:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T07:42:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T06:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T08:56:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T07:42:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Done</b>, though <a href="/wiki/User:Bsherr" title="User:Bsherr">Bsherr</a> I think your next project is creating a whole bunch of <i>"Category:Articles with incomplete citations from [month] [year]"</i> pages. <span class="emoji noviewer mw-no-invert"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Emojione_263A.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="☺" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Emojione_263A.svg/16px-Emojione_263A.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Emojione_263A.svg/24px-Emojione_263A.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Emojione_263A.svg/32px-Emojione_263A.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span></span> <a href="/wiki/User:Cabayi" title="User:Cabayi">Cabayi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cabayi" title="User talk:Cabayi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T08:56:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T07:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 2 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T08:56:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T07:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T08:56:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T07:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T08:56:00.000Z"></span>Haha, where's that bot? --<a href="/wiki/User:Bsherr" title="User:Bsherr">Bsherr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bsherr" title="User talk:Bsherr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T08:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 2 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T08:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T08:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="template"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table><p> Sorry, please replace with the sandbox one more time to add another "all" category: </p><pre>|cat2 = [[Category:All articles with incomplete citations]]</pre><p> --<a href="/wiki/User:Bsherr" title="User:Bsherr">Bsherr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bsherr" title="User talk:Bsherr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 2 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_September_2018"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T10:15:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Done</b>, with <code>cat</code> rather than <code>cat2</code> (checked with a preview of <a href="/wiki/Alfred_Hitchcock" title="Alfred Hitchcock">Alfred Hitchcock</a>). It's weird that <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fix" title="Template:Fix">fix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> needs <code>cat</code> to include the brackets, but not <code>cat-date</code>, though, now I look, it <i>is</i> documented. <a href="/wiki/User:Cabayi" title="User:Cabayi">Cabayi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cabayi" title="User talk:Cabayi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T10:15:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:15, 2 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T10:15:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T10:15:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T09:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T15:05:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T10:15:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! However, I actually need it to be <code>cat2</code>. By leaving <code>cat</code> null, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fix" title="Template:Fix">fix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> places the page in <a href="/wiki/Category:All_pages_needing_cleanup" title="Category:All pages needing cleanup">Category:All pages needing cleanup</a>, which we also want. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bsherr" title="User:Bsherr">Bsherr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bsherr" title="User talk:Bsherr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T15:05:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T10:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 2 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T15:05:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T10:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T15:05:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T10:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Bsherr" title="User:Bsherr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T18:43:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T15:05:00.000Z"></span>Bsherr</a>, Oops. Well, it proves tidiness is NOT a virtue. Done as requested. <a href="/wiki/User:Cabayi" title="User:Cabayi">Cabayi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cabayi" title="User talk:Cabayi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T18:43:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T15:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 2 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T18:43:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T15:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cabayi-2018-09-02T18:43:00.000Z-Bsherr-2018-09-02T15:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T21:18:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T18:43:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! Haha, yeah, this one's straight out of the <a href="/wiki/Sausage_making" title="Sausage making">best practices manual</a>… --<a href="/wiki/User:Bsherr" title="User:Bsherr">Bsherr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bsherr" title="User talk:Bsherr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T21:18:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T18:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 2 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T21:18:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T18:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bsherr-2018-09-02T21:18:00.000Z-Cabayi-2018-09-02T18:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reason_parameter?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reason_parameter?-2020-10-01T10:35:00.000Z"><span id="Reason_parameter.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reason_parameter?-2020-10-01T10:35:00.000Z"></span>Reason parameter?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reason_parameter?-2020-10-01T10:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Full_citation_needed&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Reason parameter?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostInTheMachine-2020-10-01T10:35:00.000Z-Reason_parameter?"></span>There seems to be a hunger for a way to include a note / reason / details. Looking at the monthly parameter usage report there are 400+ uses of <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|reason=</code>, 40+ where <code>{{{1}}}</code> is set via free text and 20+ uses of other undefined parameters.<br/> Should we: just accept that editors will add extra text and document that as a valid <code>{{{1}}}</code> <b>or</b> define <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|reason=</code> <b>or</b> not worry about all this since we do not currently make use of the extra text? — <a href="/wiki/User:GhostInTheMachine" title="User:GhostInTheMachine">GhostInTheMachine</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostInTheMachine" title="User talk:GhostInTheMachine">talk to me</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-GhostInTheMachine-2020-10-01T10:35:00.000Z-Reason_parameter?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:35, 1 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostInTheMachine-2020-10-01T10:35:00.000Z-Reason_parameter?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostInTheMachine-2020-10-01T10:35:00.000Z-Reason_parameter?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Templated-protected_edit_request_on_29_March_2021" data-mw-thread-id="h-Templated-protected_edit_request_on_29_March_2021-2021-03-29T08:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Templated-protected_edit_request_on_29_March_2021-2021-03-29T08:41:00.000Z"></span>Templated-protected edit request on 29 March 2021<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Templated-protected_edit_request_on_29_March_2021-2021-03-29T08:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Full_citation_needed&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Templated-protected edit request on 29 March 2021"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DesertPipeline-2021-03-29T08:41:00.000Z-Templated-protected_edit_request_on_29_March_2021"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="template"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Please change the following: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>| title = A complete citation is needed</p></blockquote> <p>To: </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237805129"><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>| title = A complete citation is needed.</p></blockquote> <p>Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:DesertPipeline" title="User:DesertPipeline">DesertPipeline</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DesertPipeline" title="User talk:DesertPipeline">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-DesertPipeline-2021-03-29T08:41:00.000Z-Templated-protected_edit_request_on_29_March_2021" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:41, 29 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DesertPipeline-2021-03-29T08:41:00.000Z-Templated-protected_edit_request_on_29_March_2021"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DesertPipeline-2021-03-29T08:41:00.000Z-Templated-protected_edit_request_on_29_March_2021"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-2021-03-29T13:05:00.000Z-DesertPipeline-2021-03-29T08:41:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Done</b> – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-Jonesey95-2021-03-29T13:05:00.000Z-DesertPipeline-2021-03-29T08:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 29 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-2021-03-29T13:05:00.000Z-DesertPipeline-2021-03-29T08:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-2021-03-29T13:05:00.000Z-DesertPipeline-2021-03-29T08:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DesertPipeline-2021-03-31T05:30:00.000Z-Jonesey95-2021-03-29T13:05:00.000Z"></span>Thank you :) <a href="/wiki/User:DesertPipeline" title="User:DesertPipeline">DesertPipeline</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DesertPipeline" title="User talk:DesertPipeline">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Full_citation_needed#c-DesertPipeline-2021-03-31T05:30:00.000Z-Jonesey95-2021-03-29T13:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:30, 31 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DesertPipeline-2021-03-31T05:30:00.000Z-Jonesey95-2021-03-29T13:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DesertPipeline-2021-03-31T05:30:00.000Z-Jonesey95-2021-03-29T13:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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