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class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/WikiDefender_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="111" height="107" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a><figcaption>For outstanding efforts in defending Wikipedia from vandalism, in particular the <a href="/wiki/John_F._Kennedy" title="John F. Kennedy">JFK</a> article, I award you the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Barnstars_on_Wikipedia" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Barnstars on Wikipedia">Defender of Wiki Barnstar</a> -<a href="/wiki/User:Husnock" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Husnock">Husnock</a></figcaption></figure> <p>--Hey, thank you very much, Husnock. I have now noticed vandalism on several articles that seems to be part of a class assignment gone astray --<a href="/wiki/User:JimWae" title="User:JimWae">JimWae</a> 19:39, 2005 Mar 26 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="history_articles_on_wikipedia?" data-mw-thread-id="h-history_articles_on_wikipedia?"><span id="history_articles_on_wikipedia.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-history_articles_on_wikipedia?"></span>history articles on wikipedia?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-history_articles_on_wikipedia?"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: history articles on wikipedia?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hello Jim, I'm an historian working at the Center for History and New Media at George Mason University (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://chnm.gmu.edu/">http://chnm.gmu.edu/</a>) and we are very interested in digital historical works, including the writing of history on Wikipedia. We'd like to talk to people about their experiences working on articles in Wikipedia, in connection with a larger project on the history of the free and open source software movement. Would you be willing to talk with us about your involvement, either by phone, a/v chat, IM, or email? This could be as lengthy or brief a conversation as you wish. </p><p>Thanks for your consideration. </p><p>Joan Fragaszy </p><p>jfragasz_at_gmu.edu </p><p><br/> Sounds interesting - I am going to be very busy the next month - and cannot plan exact times to chat - so let's start with e-mails --<a href="/wiki/User:JimWae" title="User:JimWae">JimWae</a> 18:34, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC) </p><p>Hi Jim, if you're more available now, I'm still very interested in speaking with you about your work on Wikipedia. Feel free to drop me an email at jfragasz_at_gmu_dot_edu. - Joan, 8/22/05 </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="re:_history_articles_on_Wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-re:_history_articles_on_Wikipedia"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-re:_history_articles_on_Wikipedia"></span>re: history articles on Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-re:_history_articles_on_Wikipedia"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: re: history articles on Wikipedia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi Jim, if you'd like to email me when you have some time I'm still very interested in speaking with you. Thanks, Joan Fragaszy. jfragasz at gmu dot edu </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="September_11,_2001_attacks" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_11,_2001_attacks"><span id="September_11.2C_2001_attacks"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_11,_2001_attacks"></span>September 11, 2001 attacks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_11,_2001_attacks"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: September 11, 2001 attacks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Examination of public videos reveals evidence of substantially different facts. Consider the contents of this video:* <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194&q=loose+change">New Video Documentary of WTC Collapse</a> As you watch, note particularly the differences in fact between this video and the wikipedia article, that are verifiable by you by reviewing the sources yourself (ie renting, buying or downloading). We are being lied to. Maybe we want to believe the lies because the truth implies intent from within. -unsigned by anon IP </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia_10" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_10"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_10"></span>Wikipedia 10<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_10"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Wikipedia 10"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:First_Vancouver_Council_Meeting_after_fire.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/First_Vancouver_Council_Meeting_after_fire.jpg/146px-First_Vancouver_Council_Meeting_after_fire.jpg" decoding="async" width="146" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/First_Vancouver_Council_Meeting_after_fire.jpg/218px-First_Vancouver_Council_Meeting_after_fire.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/First_Vancouver_Council_Meeting_after_fire.jpg/291px-First_Vancouver_Council_Meeting_after_fire.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3000" data-file-height="2062"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:10mark_k.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/10mark_k.svg/85px-10mark_k.svg.png" decoding="async" width="85" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/10mark_k.svg/127px-10mark_k.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/10mark_k.svg/169px-10mark_k.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="345" data-file-height="407"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><i><a href="/wiki/User:The_Interior" title="User:The Interior">The Interior</a> cordially invites you to the <a class="external text" href="https://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver,_B.C.">Vancouver Wikipedia 10th Anniversary Meetup</a>! It is being held at <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=2505%20W%20Broadway,%20Vancouver,%20BC,%20V6K2E9,%20Canada">Benny's Bagels at 2505 W Broadway</a>. Meetup will start at 6:30pm. Drop by for some Wikipedia-style conviviality and <a class="external text" href="https://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design/Merchandise">free gear</a>! Feel free to forward this invitation to any Wikipedians who might be able to attend, and visit the <a class="external text" href="https://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Vancouver,_B.C.">discussion page</a> to suggest activities. Hope to see you there and have a Happy 2011!<br/> </i> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Talkback" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talkback"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talkback"></span>Talkback<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talkback"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Talkback"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256396942">.mw-parser-output .umbox{background-color:var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff);border:1px solid var(--border-color-progressive,#36c);padding:0.5em 1em;margin:2em 0 1em;font-weight:bold;overflow:auto;vertical-align:middle}</style> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Personal_beliefs" title="Template talk:Personal beliefs"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, JimWae. You have new messages at <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Personal_beliefs&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template talk:Personal beliefs (page does not exist)">Template talk:Personal beliefs</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User_talk:JimWae" title="Special:EditPage/User talk:JimWae">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.</span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256396942"> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Personal_beliefs#title" title="Template talk:Personal beliefs"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, JimWae. You have new messages at <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Personal_beliefs&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template talk:Personal beliefs (page does not exist)">Template talk:Personal beliefs</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User_talk:JimWae" title="Special:EditPage/User talk:JimWae">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.</span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="TUSC_token_1f1747f8c6381b915c04cb28ced74777" data-mw-thread-id="h-TUSC_token_1f1747f8c6381b915c04cb28ced74777"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-TUSC_token_1f1747f8c6381b915c04cb28ced74777"></span>TUSC token 1f1747f8c6381b915c04cb28ced74777<span data-mw-comment-end="h-TUSC_token_1f1747f8c6381b915c04cb28ced74777"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: TUSC token 1f1747f8c6381b915c04cb28ced74777"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>I am now proud owner of a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/tusc.php">TUSC</a> account! </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Existentialism" data-mw-thread-id="h-Existentialism"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Existentialism"></span>Existentialism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Existentialism"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Existentialism"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Thank you for your work on the existentialism article. After going through the definition issue for the "libertarianism" and "anarchism" pages, I understand how nerve-wracking establishing a definition for a term is when there's never been much general agreement on what the hell it actually means. <a href="/wiki/User:Byelf2007" title="User:Byelf2007">Byelf2007</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Byelf2007" title="User talk:Byelf2007">talk</a>) 18 April 2012 </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="LED_lamps" data-mw-thread-id="h-LED_lamps"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-LED_lamps"></span>LED lamps<span data-mw-comment-end="h-LED_lamps"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: LED lamps"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Before starting another editwar, we should discuss the point "Comparison to other lighting technologies". Did you own the <i>G7 Power LED Light Bulb, 900 Lumen, Warm White, 9 Watt</i>? This lamp is bad, it has an CRI of <75 in real. I have tested over 40 different LED-Lamps from all known brands (Pilips, Osram, Toshiba, Samsung, LG, Ledon, Megaman, Bioledex...) and know their quality. In my opinion the referenced lamps should be well known, proved models who are really representive for the possible quality of the LED technology. So why not use the winner of the US Department of Energy's L-Prize, holder of the EPA ENERGY STAR ? This lamp has moren REAL lumen, an good CRI and costs the same? In my opinion, we should change back the LED-Lamp to the Philips Ambient 12.5W. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Martin_Heidegger" data-mw-thread-id="h-Martin_Heidegger"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Martin_Heidegger"></span>Martin Heidegger<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Martin_Heidegger"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Martin Heidegger"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>There is a discussion underway on the Martin Heidegger talk page that may be of interest to you. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message-20231128002000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message-20231128002000"></span>ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message-20231128002000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #AAA; background-color: ivory; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em; flex: 1 0 40px; max-width: 100px"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231128002000-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:NoACEMM" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:NoACEMM">NoACEMM</a>}}</code> to your user talk page. <small><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JimWae#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231128002000-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:20, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231128002000-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231128002000-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Punishment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Punishment-20240323192100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Punishment-20240323192100"></span>Punishment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Punishment-20240323192100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Punishment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steve_Quinn-20240323192100-Punishment"></span>Hello Jim. I was over at the <i>Punishment</i> page today. The impetus for this was something I was reading in a text book about the Philosophy of Punishment. Anyway, some of the text I was reading in the <i>Punishment</i> article did not seem kosher and the sources didn't support the assertions there. So I removed the text and left a message on the talk page. I have no idea if you are interested in this page anymore, or if you are still editing on Wikipedia. Can you believe it's been about 13 or 14 years since we edited this page together along with the ANI and ARBCOM that followed? Regards, ---<a href="/wiki/User:Steve_Quinn" title="User:Steve Quinn">Steve Quinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steve_Quinn" title="User talk:Steve Quinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JimWae#c-Steve_Quinn-20240323192100-Punishment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steve_Quinn-20240323192100-Punishment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steve_Quinn-20240323192100-Punishment"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JimWae-20240325225000-Steve_Quinn-20240323192100"></span>Hi Steve, Good to see you are still at it. Your edit seems entirely justified. That section came from anon edit</dd> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Punishment&diff=next&oldid=730010438">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Punishment&diff=next&oldid=730010438</a> and it was entirely unclear how octopi stopping eating young octopi had anything to do with punishment.</dd> <dd>I got too tired of fighting the same battles over & over & hardly ever edit anymore. <a href="/wiki/User:JimWae" title="User:JimWae">JimWae</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JimWae#c-JimWae-20240325225000-Steve_Quinn-20240323192100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JimWae-20240325225000-Steve_Quinn-20240323192100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JimWae-20240325225000-Steve_Quinn-20240323192100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steve_Quinn-20240326185700-JimWae-20240325225000"></span>I totally understand about getting too tired fighting the same battles over & over. It seems that things should get straightened out once and for all, but that doesn't happen. Also, I think I recently read that the number of editors is not increasing as Wikipedia expands, or something like that. As for me, I stopped editing on Wikipedia for quite awhile. Then somehow I started again a little bit at a time. Lately, I have been spending more time here. It is easy to catch the editing bug again. But I am going to have to pull back. There other things in life. And I will have to remember it is Octopi not Octopuses :>) --<a href="/wiki/User:Steve_Quinn" title="User:Steve Quinn">Steve Quinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steve_Quinn" title="User talk:Steve Quinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JimWae#c-Steve_Quinn-20240326185700-JimWae-20240325225000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 26 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steve_Quinn-20240326185700-JimWae-20240325225000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steve_Quinn-20240326185700-JimWae-20240325225000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steve_Quinn-20240326190000-JimWae-20240325225000"></span>That's pretty amazing you found that edit by that IP back in 2016. ----<a href="/wiki/User:Steve_Quinn" title="User:Steve Quinn">Steve Quinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steve_Quinn" title="User talk:Steve Quinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JimWae#c-Steve_Quinn-20240326190000-JimWae-20240325225000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steve_Quinn-20240326190000-JimWae-20240325225000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steve_Quinn-20240326190000-JimWae-20240325225000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>cop </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&oldid=1215720882">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JimWae&oldid=1215720882</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 26 March 2024, at 19:01<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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