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Soradoc</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=687733&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=687733&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048#p687733" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=123454&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048" style="color: #000000;" class="username-coloured">Content Feedback</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-03-26T19:47:26+00:00">March 26th, 2024, 7:47 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">(1) What difficulty levels and game versions have you played the scenario on?<br> (2) How difficult did you find the scenario? 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(1-10)<br> (7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?</div> <div id="sig687733" class="signature"><span style="font-size:92%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Mainline Campaigns:</strong> <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewforum.php?f=22" class="postlink">Scenario Feedback</a> • <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewforum.php?f=38" class="postlink">Development & Overall Feedback</a><br> <strong class="text-strong">User-made Add-ons:</strong> <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewforum.php?f=31" class="postlink">Feedback</a></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689373" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689373"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=270531&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048" class="username">Vendrick</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=270531&sr=posts&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048">43</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 18th, 2024, 4:12 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689373"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=689373&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048#p689373">Re: 6b. Soradoc</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=689373&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=689373&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048#p689373" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=270531&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048" class="username">Vendrick</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-03T18:47:40+00:00">May 3rd, 2024, 6:47 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">(1) Invasion, 1.18<br> (2) 7<br> (3) Clear<br> (4) Dialogue continues to be good, with Owaec and Dacyn clashing. I also like the Soradoc map; it conveys quite well the dire straits of Soradoc's defenders. Nice to see that Mal-Ravanal's enjoying the invasion.<br> (5) The two L3 Undead units are extremely dangerous - the resilient Necromancer (83HP!) and a Ghast. The Ghast can deal 45 damage at night, and the Necromancer 48. The narrow front, time of day, the Necromancer's high income and incoming reinforcements make this part extremely dangerous.<br> (6) 9 - the strong storytelling of the gameplay itself, the tactical options available and the tension between the bonus objectives make it the best scenario (so far). <br> (7) The achievement for not killing any of the undead leaders is strange because that's the easiest and worst outcome. <br> <br> On the replay: If only there were some kind of fast, impact resistant unit that could hit the Undead during day time. At least I have the Dunefolk (until my gold goes negative and their mercenary trait flips from +30% to -30% damage).<br> Poison makes the AI play incompetently (spreading attacks and targeting Gweddry in particular) and I exploited that.<br> The Necromancer seems impossible to pull from his keep with bait and waiting out night for the kill probably wrecks any chance of killing the other undead leaders.<br> My mages really delivered on the critical turn to attack the Necromancer. The actual target is reduce the Necromancer to ~24 HP and cause him to retreat rather than attacking. I got lucky though and damaged the Necromancer enough that he checked out of combat altogether and got killed while still on the village.<br> I didn't account for the chance the ghoul would die on the attack and expose Gweddry to another hex though. <br> The heroic bait spearman disrupts the advance of Mal-Ravanal's ghosts really well, as the lead ghosts stop to capture villages.<br> I close out with a major mistake with Owaec, who could have been killed if hit he had missed the skeleton. I've decided to blame Yannic though.<br> <br> An Archmage is probably the best bet for clearing out the Necromancer without the knights from Mal-Ravanal's capital. I should have given Gweddry's illuminate to a more expendable unit (like the Dune Swordsman) in the previous scenario.</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./../download/file.php?id=97384&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048">EI-Soradoc replay 20240407-171308.gz</a></dt> <dd>(66.93 KiB) Downloaded 55 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p691073" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile691073"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=141652&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048" class="username">sine_nomine</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=141652&sr=posts&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048">70</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 30th, 2016, 11:34 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content691073"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=691073&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048#p691073">Re: 6b. Soradoc</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=691073&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=691073&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048#p691073" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=141652&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048" class="username">sine_nomine</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-06-18T01:33:44+00:00">June 18th, 2024, 1:33 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Invasion, 1.18.0<br> First time I barely managed to kill three leaders and yannic miraculously survived with 1 hp. The ghost reinforcements seem rather passive, I probably could have ignored them entirely.<br> In retrospect I was extremely lucky for yannic to survive so long with no help. I tried replaying this scenario and was able to rush owaec to yannic while sending a single quick duelist to the escape point. 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Soradoc</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=692297&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=692297&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048#p692297" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=108075&sid=f3b1617610198f7cb1992ba3c678b048" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">doofus-01</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-08-05T00:33:06+00:00">August 5th, 2024, 12:33 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><strong class="text-strong">(1) What difficulty levels and game versions have you played the scenario on?</strong><br> 1.19.2+dev, Incursion<br> <strong class="text-strong">(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)</strong><br> 10, I haven't beaten it yet.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?</strong><br> Clear<br> <strong class="text-strong">(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?</strong><br> It made sense, seemed appropriate.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?</strong><br> There just isn't enough time to reach the AI ally. I tried dashing north, taking out side 4, then dash west to clear out side 3 and block side 5, but that lets side 6 own the ally. I could slog through the river to take out side 6, then reach the ally and block sides 3 and 5, but then turns run out. All that while I had the Lich's recruits chasing me since I can't afford to waste resources dealing with them (they didn't seem very passive). I'm beginning to think 218g just isn't enough to pull this off. I don't have the good luck or dunefolk of the previous reviewers.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)</strong><br> 7<br> <strong class="text-strong">(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?</strong><br> Maybe the AI ally could be transferred to player control? Save-the-idiot-AI scenarios are usually pretty frustrating. 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