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It's probably worth a brief mention. Alternatively, you could repoint the redirect to <a href="/wiki/History_of_syphilis#History_of_diagnosis" title="History of syphilis">History of syphilis#History of diagnosis</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing">WhatamIdoing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing" title="User talk:WhatamIdoing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Syphilis#c-WhatamIdoing-20240609052900-Equinox-20230517171300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatamIdoing-20240609052900-Equinox-20230517171300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240609052900","author":"WhatamIdoing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-20240609052900-Equinox-20230517171300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-20240609052900-Equinox-20230517171300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-46.33.152.203-20231026011000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?-20231026011000","replies":["c-46.33.152.203-20231026011000-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?"],"text":"Origin in Europe or America?","linkableTitle":"Origin in Europe or America?"}--><h2 id="Origin_in_Europe_or_America?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?-20231026011000"><span id="Origin_in_Europe_or_America.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?-20231026011000"></span>Origin in Europe or America?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?-20231026011000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Syphilis&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Origin in Europe or America?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-46.33.152.203-20231026011000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?-20231026011000","replies":["c-46.33.152.203-20231026011000-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-174.94.111.33-20240609030700-46.33.152.203-20231026011000","timestamp":"20240609030700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-46.33.152.203-20231026011000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?-20231026011000","replies":["c-46.33.152.203-20231026011000-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?"],"text":"Origin in Europe or America?","linkableTitle":"Origin in Europe or America?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-46.33.152.203-20231026011000-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?"></span>The history section is confusing. It starts off by saying that it started in America: </p><p>> Paleopathologists have known for decades that syphilis was present in the Americas before European contact. </p><p>But then says that it was present in Europe before the voyages to America: </p><p>> In 2020, a group of leading paleopathologists concluded that enough evidence had been collected to prove that treponemal disease, almost certainly including syphilis, had existed in Europe prior to the voyages of Columbus. </p><p>So which one is it? If it's uncertain it should start of by saying that. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/46.33.152.203" title="Special:Contributions/46.33.152.203">46.33.152.203</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:46.33.152.203&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:46.33.152.203 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Syphilis#c-46.33.152.203-20231026011000-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 26 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-46.33.152.203-20231026011000-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231026011000","author":"46.33.152.203","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-46.33.152.203-20231026011000-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?","replies":["c-174.94.111.33-20240609030700-46.33.152.203-20231026011000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-46.33.152.203-20231026011000-Origin_in_Europe_or_America?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-174.94.111.33-20240609030700-46.33.152.203-20231026011000"></span>It seems that the confusion is introduced by a lengthy attempt move the origins of the disease away from pre-Colombian Americas. This attempt in lengthy and convoluted, if not outright forcefully introduced (and, this is what introduces the confusion and doubt about American origin of the disease) is caused by lack of any proof that the disease did not originate in Americas. It is so much overly forced upon the reader that, I suspect the reason for introducing the hypothesis is extra scientific and could have something to do with politics of the disease in today's world. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.94.111.33" title="Special:Contributions/174.94.111.33">174.94.111.33</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:174.94.111.33&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:174.94.111.33 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Syphilis#c-174.94.111.33-20240609030700-46.33.152.203-20231026011000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 9 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-174.94.111.33-20240609030700-46.33.152.203-20231026011000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240609030700","author":"174.94.111.33","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-174.94.111.33-20240609030700-46.33.152.203-20231026011000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-174.94.111.33-20240609030700-46.33.152.203-20231026011000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Psixtras-20231119205200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023-20231119205200","replies":["c-Psixtras-20231119205200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023"],"text":"Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2023","linkableTitle":"Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2023"}--><h2 id="Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023-20231119205200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023-20231119205200"></span>Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023-20231119205200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Syphilis&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Psixtras-20231119205200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023-20231119205200","replies":["c-Psixtras-20231119205200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Lewcm-20231124204500-Psixtras-20231119205200","timestamp":"20231124204500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Psixtras-20231119205200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023-20231119205200","replies":["c-Psixtras-20231119205200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023"],"text":"Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2023","linkableTitle":"Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2023"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Psixtras-20231119205200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>change "This is believed to be partly due to increased sexual activity, increased prostitution, and decreased use of condoms." </p> <pre>to : "This is believed to be partly due to increased prostitution, and decreased use of condoms." as increased sexual activity is false. Sexual activity seems to have lessen compared to previous years/decades <a href="/wiki/User:Psixtras" title="User:Psixtras">Psixtras</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Psixtras" title="User talk:Psixtras">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Syphilis#c-Psixtras-20231119205200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 19 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Psixtras-20231119205200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231119205200","author":"Psixtras","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Psixtras-20231119205200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023","replies":["c-Lewcm-20231124204500-Psixtras-20231119205200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Psixtras-20231119205200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_November_2023"></span> </pre> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lewcm-20231124204500-Psixtras-20231119205200"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/20px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/30px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/40px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"/></span></span> <b>Not done:</b> please provide <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">reliable sources</a> that support the change you want to be made. <span style="background-color:#00BFFF; padding:2px; color:white;"><a href="/wiki/User:Lewcm" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lewcm">Lewcm</a></span> <span style="background-color:#FFD700; padding:2px;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lewcm" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lewcm">Talk to me!</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Syphilis#c-Lewcm-20231124204500-Psixtras-20231119205200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lewcm-20231124204500-Psixtras-20231119205200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231124204500","author":"Lewcm","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lewcm-20231124204500-Psixtras-20231119205200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lewcm-20231124204500-Psixtras-20231119205200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-LindsayH-20240316123900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Unclear_bacteriology-20240316123900","replies":["c-LindsayH-20240316123900-Unclear_bacteriology"],"text":"Unclear bacteriology","linkableTitle":"Unclear bacteriology"}--><h2 id="Unclear_bacteriology" data-mw-thread-id="h-Unclear_bacteriology-20240316123900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Unclear_bacteriology-20240316123900"></span>Unclear bacteriology<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Unclear_bacteriology-20240316123900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Syphilis&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Unclear bacteriology"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-LindsayH-20240316123900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Unclear_bacteriology-20240316123900","replies":["c-LindsayH-20240316123900-Unclear_bacteriology"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-20240609152300-LindsayH-20240609085000","timestamp":"20240609152300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-LindsayH-20240316123900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Unclear_bacteriology-20240316123900","replies":["c-LindsayH-20240316123900-Unclear_bacteriology"],"text":"Unclear bacteriology","linkableTitle":"Unclear bacteriology"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LindsayH-20240316123900-Unclear_bacteriology"></span>The lead says that pinta is caused by <i>Treponema carateum</i>, which, indeed, <a href="/wiki/Pinta_(disease)" title="Pinta (disease)">pinta</a> also says. In the body, however, the first paragraph under "Cause", talking of the bacterial cause, <i>Treponema pallidum</i> says that <i>carateum</i> is a subspecies. I am thus unclear, is <i>T. carateum</i> a separate species within the genus <i>Treponema</i> or is it a subspecies of <i>T. pallidum</i>? One paragraph or the other needs changing/clarifying, but i can't tell which is wrong. Happy days, ~ <b><a href="/wiki/User:LindsayH" title="User:LindsayH">Lindsay</a></b><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LindsayH" title="User talk:LindsayH">H</a></b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LindsayH" title="User talk:LindsayH">ello</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Syphilis#c-LindsayH-20240316123900-Unclear_bacteriology" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 16 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LindsayH-20240316123900-Unclear_bacteriology"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240316123900","author":"LindsayH","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LindsayH-20240316123900-Unclear_bacteriology","replies":["c-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100-LindsayH-20240316123900"],"displayName":"Lindsay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LindsayH-20240316123900-Unclear_bacteriology"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100-LindsayH-20240316123900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:LindsayH" title="User:LindsayH">LindsayH</a>, I don't know the answer to your question, but <a href="/wiki/Treponema_pallidum#Subspecies" title="Treponema pallidum">Treponema pallidum#Subspecies</a> appears to have some more information. <a href="/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing">WhatamIdoing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing" title="User talk:WhatamIdoing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Syphilis#c-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100-LindsayH-20240316123900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:31, 9 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100-LindsayH-20240316123900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240609053100","author":"WhatamIdoing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100-LindsayH-20240316123900","replies":["c-LindsayH-20240609085000-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100-LindsayH-20240316123900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LindsayH-20240609085000-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100"></span>Thank <a href="/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing">you</a> for that. A tad embarrassing, as i thought i had checked sufficiently without finding the answer before writing my plea, but clearly i didn't. Anyway, chasing references seems to make the answer fairly clear, so i'll make the change required. Thanks for the pointer. Happy days, ~ <b><a href="/wiki/User:LindsayH" title="User:LindsayH">Lindsay</a></b><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LindsayH" title="User talk:LindsayH">H</a></b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LindsayH" title="User talk:LindsayH">ello</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Syphilis#c-LindsayH-20240609085000-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LindsayH-20240609085000-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240609085000","author":"LindsayH","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-LindsayH-20240609085000-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100","replies":["c-WhatamIdoing-20240609152300-LindsayH-20240609085000"],"displayName":"Lindsay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LindsayH-20240609085000-WhatamIdoing-20240609053100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhatamIdoing-20240609152300-LindsayH-20240609085000"></span>You're welcome. Thanks for making the change. <a href="/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing">WhatamIdoing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing" title="User talk:WhatamIdoing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Syphilis#c-WhatamIdoing-20240609152300-LindsayH-20240609085000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:23, 9 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatamIdoing-20240609152300-LindsayH-20240609085000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240609152300","author":"WhatamIdoing","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-20240609152300-LindsayH-20240609085000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-20240609152300-LindsayH-20240609085000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_\"Cause\"_section-20241123122700","replies":["c-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_\"Cause\"_section"],"text":"Confusion and mixed messaging in the \"Cause\" section","linkableTitle":"Confusion and mixed messaging in the \"Cause\" section"}--><h2 id="Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_"Cause"_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_"Cause"_section-20241123122700"><span id="Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_.22Cause.22_section"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_"Cause"_section-20241123122700"></span>Confusion and mixed messaging in the "Cause" section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_"Cause"_section-20241123122700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Syphilis&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Confusion and mixed messaging in the "Cause" section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_\"Cause\"_section-20241123122700","replies":["c-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_\"Cause\"_section"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-20241124054500-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700","timestamp":"20241124054500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_\"Cause\"_section-20241123122700","replies":["c-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_\"Cause\"_section"],"text":"Confusion and mixed messaging in the \"Cause\" section","linkableTitle":"Confusion and mixed messaging in the \"Cause\" section"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_"Cause"_section"></span>The "Bacteriology" subsection states "It is unable to survive more than a few days without a host". Then in the immediately following "Transmission" subsection the article mentions "the bacteria die very quickly outside of the body". Multiple days is very quick? Maybe on a geological timescale, but I think most people would not consider that to be "very quickly". Perhaps the wording can be changed to avoid such disjointed information. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nom_de_vileplume&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nom de vileplume (page does not exist)">Nom de vileplume</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nom_de_vileplume&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Nom de vileplume (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Syphilis#c-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_"Cause"_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_"Cause"_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123122700","author":"Nom de vileplume","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_\"Cause\"_section","replies":["c-WhatamIdoing-20241124054500-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700-Confusion_and_mixed_messaging_in_the_"Cause"_section"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhatamIdoing-20241124054500-Nom_de_vileplume-20241123122700"></span>One website I found says "minutes". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK534780/#_article-29822_s2_">This much better source</a> says "<i>Treponema</i> bacteria are susceptible to heat, cold, and oxygen exposure, so they do not survive long outside the human body". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/laboratory-biosafety-biosecurity/pathogen-safety-data-sheets-risk-assessment/treponema-pallidum-pathogen-safety-data-sheet.html">This Canadian source</a> gives some interesting details: "<i>T. pallidum</i> can survive in banked donor blood for 72 to 120 hours. However, treponemes only survive for a few hours in plasma, whole blood, or serum at body or room temperatures. Motile organisms were observed for 8 to 14 days in sealed slides kept at room temperature."</dd> <dd>So I think that the survival time depends on the details. If someone accidentally left a <a href="/wiki/Streaking_(microbiology)" title="Streaking (microbiology)">smear</a> on some ordinary surface like a table or a door handle, for example, it'd probably be minutes-to-hours, maybe depending on how favorable the temperature was and if there were any protective/destructive factors (e.g., most microbes have a longer lifespan on wood surfaces than on copper ones). But if you carefully sealed it up, then it could be days.</dd> <dd>This reminds me a little of the "<a href="/wiki/Smallpox_blankets" class="mw-redirect" title="Smallpox blankets">Smallpox blankets</a>" stories: some small amount of the pox virus, under perfect storage conditions (just the right temperature, no sunlight...), can remain viable for months outside the body. 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