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ext-discussiontools-visualenhancements_pageframe-enabled skin-vector-legacy mediawiki ltr sitedir-ltr mw-hide-empty-elt ns-1 ns-talk mw-editable page-Diskussion_Trick_Play rootpage-Diskussion_Trick_Play skin-vector action-view"><div id="mw-page-base" class="noprint"></div> <div id="mw-head-base" class="noprint"></div> <div id="content" class="mw-body" role="main"> <a id="top"></a> <div id="siteNotice"><!-- CentralNotice --></div> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <h1 id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading mw-first-heading"><span class="mw-page-title-namespace">Diskussion</span><span class="mw-page-title-separator">:</span><span class="mw-page-title-main">Trick Play</span></h1> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body"> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">aus Wikipedia, der freien Enzyklopädie</div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-pageframe-latestcomment">Letzter Kommentar: <a href="#c-Mirer-2011-07-21T22:41:00.000Z-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z">vor 13 Jahren</a> von Mirer in Abschnitt <a href="#End_Around">End Around</a></div></div></div> <div id="contentSub2"></div> <div id="jump-to-nav"></div> <a class="mw-jump-link" href="#mw-head">Zur Navigation springen</a> <a class="mw-jump-link" href="#searchInput">Zur Suche springen</a> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="de" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung"],"text":"Anregung zur Systematisierung","linkableTitle":"Anregung zur Systematisierung"}--><h2 id="Anregung_zur_Systematisierung" data-mw-thread-id="h-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z"></span>Anregung zur Systematisierung<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Trick_Play&action=edit&section=1" title="Quellcode des Abschnitts bearbeiten: Anregung zur Systematisierung"><span>Quelltext bearbeiten</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Letzter Kommentar: <a href="#c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung">vor 13 Jahren</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 Kommentar</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 Person ist an der Diskussion beteiligt</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung"],"text":"Anregung zur Systematisierung","linkableTitle":"Anregung zur Systematisierung"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung"></span>Der Artikel über Trick Plays wurde im Rahmen der Überarbeitungen des Artikels (Fakes) erschaffen, um die korrekte Kategorisierung der fälschicherweise als Fakes bezeichneten Spielzüge zu ermöglichen. Dieser Artikel sollte beinhalten: </p> <ul><li>Trickspielzüge - Laufspiel <ul><li>End Around</li> <li>Reverse/Double Reverse</li> <li>Halfback/Wide Receiver Direct Snap</li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li>Trickspielzüge - Passspiel <ul><li>Halfback Pass</li> <li>Wide Receiver Pass/Fake Reverse</li> <li>Flea Flicker/Reverse Flea Flicker</li> <li>Double Pass/Double Lateral</li> <li>Hook and Lateral</li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li>Trickspielzüge - Special Teams <ul><li>Fake Punt</li> <li>Fake Fieldgoal</li></ul></li></ul> <p>Weitere Anregungen sind willkommen. Roger2dc 02:47, 7. Mär. 2010 (CET) </p> <dl><dd>Systematisierung schaut IMHO gut aus. Folgende Begriffe sollten ebenfalls enthalten sein - in Abgrenzung zu Trick Play (nicht jede versuchte Täuschung ist auch ein Trickspielzug: <ul><li>Draw (Laufspielzug aus Passformation / Pass Blockschema)</li> <li>Play Action (Passspielzug aus Laufformation / Lauf Blockschema)</li> <li>(ggfs.) Option Play (auch hier QB/RB weiterhin Ballbesitz vor)</li></ul></dd> <dd>--<a href="/wiki/Benutzer:Sarge.muc" title="Benutzer:Sarge.muc">Sarge</a> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Trick_Play#c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 19. Jul. 2011 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantworten","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantworten</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:03:00.000Z-Anregung_zur_Systematisierung"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-End_Around-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z-End_Around"],"text":"End Around","linkableTitle":"End Around"}--><h2 id="End_Around" data-mw-thread-id="h-End_Around-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-End_Around-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z"></span>End Around<span data-mw-comment-end="h-End_Around-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Trick_Play&action=edit&section=2" title="Quellcode des Abschnitts bearbeiten: End Around"><span>Quelltext bearbeiten</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Letzter Kommentar: <a href="#c-Mirer-2011-07-21T22:41:00.000Z-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z">vor 13 Jahren</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 Kommentare</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 Personen sind an der Diskussion beteiligt</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-End_Around-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z-End_Around"],"text":"End Around","linkableTitle":"End Around"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z-End_Around"></span>Hierbei handelt es sich nicht um "Wide Receiver <i>ums Ende herum</i> laufen", sondern ein <i>(Offensive) End</i> läuft (hinten) um die Line <i>herum</i>. Häufiger tut dies wohl der <i>Tight End</i>, seltener der <i>Split End</i>. Wide Receiver ist m.E. fehl am Platz, da nicht an der Line stehen muss und daher kein <i>End</i> ist! Einwände? --<a href="/wiki/Benutzer:Sarge.muc" title="Benutzer:Sarge.muc">Sarge</a> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Trick_Play#c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z-End_Around" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 19. Jul. 2011 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z-End_Around"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantworten","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantworten</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z-End_Around"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mirer-2011-07-21T22:41:00.000Z-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z"></span>Ja, mit End Around sind eigentlich nur Spielzüge des Tight End gemeint. --<a href="/wiki/Benutzer:Mirer" title="Benutzer:Mirer">mirer</a> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Trick_Play#c-Mirer-2011-07-21T22:41:00.000Z-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 22. Jul. 2011 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mirer-2011-07-21T22:41:00.000Z-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantworten","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantworten</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mirer-2011-07-21T22:41:00.000Z-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lemma_\"Trick_Play\"-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z-Lemma_\"Trick_Play\""],"text":"Lemma \"Trick Play\"","linkableTitle":"Lemma \"Trick Play\""}--><h2 id="Lemma_"Trick_Play"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lemma_"Trick_Play"-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z"><span id="Lemma_.22Trick_Play.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lemma_"Trick_Play"-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z"></span>Lemma "Trick Play"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lemma_"Trick_Play"-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Trick_Play&action=edit&section=3" title="Quellcode des Abschnitts bearbeiten: Lemma "Trick Play""><span>Quelltext bearbeiten</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Letzter Kommentar: <a href="#c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z-Lemma_"Trick_Play"">vor 13 Jahren</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 Kommentar</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 Person ist an der Diskussion beteiligt</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lemma_\"Trick_Play\"-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z-Lemma_\"Trick_Play\""],"text":"Lemma \"Trick Play\"","linkableTitle":"Lemma \"Trick Play\""}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z-Lemma_"Trick_Play""></span>Das Lemma sollte m.E., im Singular stehen, also <b>Trick Play</b>, oder auch Deutsch <b>Trickspielzug</b>. Oder?--<a href="/wiki/Benutzer:Sarge.muc" title="Benutzer:Sarge.muc">Sarge</a> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Trick_Play#c-Sarge.muc-2011-07-19T13:21:00.000Z-Lemma_"Trick_Play"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 19. 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