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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">  <html lang="en"> <head id="stdcontainer"> <title> tye </title> <link rel="canonical" href="https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=22609" />  <script language="javascript" type="text/javascript" src="?node=list%20replies%20toggle%20javascript" integrity="sha384-6jdBZxT7udN82vOTryPaLwqMohSfDF3HXv3M32KAZ7dOREMdAkYh9ZhoaKCgCXcr" crossorigin="anonymous"></script> <link rel="stylesheet" href="/css/common.css" type="text/css" /> <link rel="stylesheet" href="?node_id=204962" type="text/css" />   <link rel="icon" href="/favicon.ico" /> </head> <body id="id-22609">   <table id="monkbar" width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tr class="bannerrow"> <td align="left" width="100%"> <a href="http://pair.com"> <img src="//promote.pair.com/i/pair-banner-current.gif" height = "60" width = "468" alt = "Beefy Boxes and Bandwidth Generously Provided by pair Networks" /> </a> </td> <td rowspan="2" align="right" valign="bottom">  </td> </tr> <tr class="monkquip"> <td class="monkquip" valign="bottom" width="100%" > XP is just a number </td> </tr> <tr class="titlebar"> <td class="titlebar"> <form method="get" action="?" enctype="application/x-www-form-urlencoded" >   <input type="text" name="node" id="search_text" size="20" maxlength="300" /> <input class="titlebar" type="submit" value="Search" /> </form> </td> <td class="titlebar" id="mb2001titlebar" align="right" > <a class="titlebar" href="?">PerlMonks</a>   </td> </tr> </table>   <table width="98%" align="center" id="titlebar-top"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="middle" class="titlechooser">  <h3 class="other">tye</h3> <span class="attribution">by <a href="?node_id=22609">tye</a> <span class="attribution-title">(Sage)</span> </span>  </td> <td valign="top" align="right" class="monktitlebar">  <ul class="topnavmenu inline-list"> <li><a href="?node_id=109">Log in</a></li><li><a href="?node_id=101">Create a new user</a></li> <li><a href="?">The Monastery Gates</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Seekers%20of%20Perl%20Wisdom">Seekers of Perl Wisdom</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Meditations">Meditations</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Cool%20Uses%20for%20Perl">Cool Uses For Perl</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Obfuscated%20Code">Obfuscation</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Tutorials">Tutorials</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Perl%20Poetry">Poetry</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Illuminations">Illuminations</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Reviews">Reviews</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Perl%20News">Perl News</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Recently%20Active%20Threads">Recent Threads</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Newest%20Nodes">Newest Nodes</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Super%20Search">Super Search</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Perl%20Monks%20Discussion">PerlMonks Discussion</a></li> <li><a href="?node=Tidings">What's New</a></li> </ul>   </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table width="98%" align="center" id="titlebar-bottom"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="middle" class="titlechooser">  <span class="attribution">on Jul 14, 2000 at 22:45 UTC</span> <span class="addlinks">( <a href="?node_id=22609">[id://22609]</a>=<a href="?node_id=15">user</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="?displaytype=print;node_id=22609">print</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="?node_id=22609;displaytype=print;replies=1">w/replies</a>, <a href="?displaytype=xml;node_id=22609">xml</a> )</span>  </td> <td valign="middle" align="right" class="monktitlebar"> <a href="?node=PerlMonks%20FAQ">Need Help??</a> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>   <center> <table width="98%"> <tr> <td width="80%" valign="top" class="main_content">   <table class="pm-user-info"><tr> <td><img src="?node_id=190832;updated=20040124023124" title="tye's user image" alt="tye's user image" /></td> <td valign="top"> <table> <tr> <td>User since:</td> <td>Jul 14, 2000 at 22:45 UTC <i>(25 years ago)</i></td> </td> </tr><tr> <td>Last here:</td> <td>Jun 18, 2018 at 22:49 UTC <i>(7 years ago)</i></td> </tr><tr> <td>Experience:</td> <td><b> 72676 </b></td> </tr><tr> <td>Level:</td><td><b>Sage (25)</b></td> </tr><tr> <td>Writeups:</td> <td><b> <a href="?user=tye;node_id=6364">8013</a> </b></td> </tr> <tr><td>CPAN ID:</td><td><a href="https://metacpan.org/author/TYEMQ">TYEMQ</td></tr> <tr><td>Location:</td><td>sitting</tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="nodelets"><table class="nodelet_container"><tbody class="nodelet"><tr class="nodelet_head_row"><th class="nodehead">XP Nodelet</th></tr><tr class="nodelet_body_row"><td class="nodebody">You have <b>23</b> votes left today.<br />You gained 23 experience points. Can I borrow some?<br />You have 2323 points until level 23 - Archbishop.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td></td></tr> <tr> <td>User's localtime:</td><td> Mar 27, 2025 at 09:13 PDT </td> </tr><tr> <td>Scratchpad:</td><td> <a href="?node_id=358135;viewmode=public">View</a> </td> </tr> <tr><td>Member of:</td><td> <a href="?node_id=59438">janitors</a>, <a href="?node_id=106850">pmdev</a>, <a href="?node_id=56883">power users</a> </td> </tr> <tr class="msg_user"><td>For this user:</td><td><a href="?a=tye;node=Super%20Search">Search nodes</a></td></tr> </table> </td> </tr> </table> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p>  This node contains no <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javas‎crip‎t">javas‎crip‎t</a>. <p> Current favorite CSS hacks for <a href="?node=user%20settings">user settings</a>: <dl><dt>auto-sizing text areas</dt><dd>textarea { width: 100% }</dd> <dt>bland signatures</dt><dd>div.pmsig, div.pmsig td, div.pmsig font { color: black; background-color: white; font-size: 10px; font-family: serif; }</dd> </dl> </p><hr /><p> Some people treat computers like refrigerators in that they don't want to bother replacing them more than once a decade. Others treat them like fridges in that they think you are unclean if you have anything in one that is older than a few weeks. </p><hr /> Why Perl5's dereferencing is better than Perl6's:<br /> <tt>#34370 +(6)- [X]<br /> <<a href="?node=tye">tye</a>> and deref'ing is easy to remember because robots, ->[ , use simple integer indices while samuri, ->{ , have names for everything, and aliens, ->( , use functional programming </tt> <hr /> <p> <<a href="?node=Petruchio">Petruchio</a>> From what I can tell, people get along better when they simply show that they're willing to waste time on each other. </p> <hr /><p> <b>For all your nodelette sorrow.</b> </p><p> Ever have one of those days when the Monastery pages just won't come up if you are logged in but everything seems fine if you aren't logged in? </p><p> Well, one of the things that changes based on whether you are logged in is which nodelettes you see. Some of the nodelets are pretty fancy. A while ago, the CPAN nodelet would sometimes refuse to finish, which prevents any of the page from rendering. Just recently, the Everything nodelet had a similar problem. The solution is to turn off those nodelets but that leads to a chicken-and-egg problem. Until now! </p><p> You'll need to bookmark the links in the next paragraph because I can't make a link to my homenode that doesn't display nodelets. The following links are special because they specify "<tt class='inlinecode'>&displaytype=raw</tt>", which turns off nodelets. Unfortunately, this option doesn't work for regular nodes nor homenodes. Luckilly, it works for the login screen and the user settings page: </p><p> If you aren't logged in, then <a href="/?node_id=109&displaytype=raw">go login</a> first. Once you are logged in, go to <a href="/?node_id=1072&displaytype=raw">your user settings</a> and turn off any nodelets that you think might be the source of your problems. </p><p> Of course, if I write "use WORD NUMBER;" such that NUMBER is equal to the number of letters in WORD added to the position in the alphabet of the first letter of WORD, then that (obviously) indicates sarcasm. </p>  <hr /><p> Possible patch for <a href="?node=usergroup%20display%20page">usergroup display page</a>: <pre class="code"><div class='codeblock'><tt class='codetext'> my $str= "<TABLE>\n"; foreach (@$ref){ my $N = selectNode $_; $str .= "<TR><TD>" . linkNode($N) . "</TD><TD>(last here " . parsetime(lasttime) . " <I>(" . timesince($$NODE{lasttime}) . ")</I></TD></TR>\n"; } $str . "</TABLE>; </tt></div><div class='embed-code-dl'><a href="?node_id=22609;displaytype=displaycode;abspart=1;part=2">[download]</a></div></pre> keys%{{@list,reverse@list}} <hr /> Looking for Semaphore::SmokeSignals? 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