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The first time we wrote about him was a year ago — see <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2016/09/03/icr-has-a-creationist-nuclear-physicist/">ICR Has a Creationist Nuclear Physicist</a>. He’s been the subject of a few posts since then, and now ICR’s creationist nuclear physicist is back again.</p> <p>This just appeared at the website of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Creation_Research">Institute for Creation Research</a> (ICR) — the fountainhead of young-earth creationist wisdom: <a href="https://www.icr.org/article/10236" rel="nofollow"><strong>Genesis Doesn’t Fit with Deep Time</strong></a>. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis:</p> <blockquote><p><span style="font-style:normal;"><strong>A recent Pew Research Center poll showed the number of Americans who professed to be Christian declined by 7.8% between 2007 and 2014</strong>, while the number professing other faiths or identifying as unaffiliated increased by 7.9%. <strong>Only 50% of the younger millennials (born 1990–1996) believe in God with absolute certainty, and only 52% believe that Scripture is the Word of God.</strong> These are alarming figures that reflect our postmodernist culture and our views of who God is and what He has done. <strong>A telling indicator would be a millennial’s answer to the question “Did God really create the world in six days?”</strong></span></p></blockquote> <p>It doesn’t look good for creationism. Vernon says:</p> <blockquote><p><span style="font-style:normal;"><strong>The Christian community holds varying views on the first chapter of Genesis.</strong> Some simply believe the biblical six-day creation narrative as it stands, while increasing numbers of people attempt to fit creation into the hypotheses of modern secular science or other views consistent with a deep-time paradigm of a universe billions of years old.</p> <p><span style="font-style:normal;"><strong>Although there is no general agreement among the old-earthers as to how the ages of the earth were manifest, there are three major views that attempt to fit the biblical narrative into deep time:</strong></p> <p><span style="font-style:normal;">1. <strong>The gap theory</strong> proposed by G. H. Pember in 1876.<br /> <span style="font-style:normal;">2. <strong>The day-age views</strong> — of which theistic evolution and punctuated equilibrium are subsets — that seek to interpret the six days of Genesis 1 as ages rather than 24-hour days.<br /> <span style="font-style:normal;">3. <strong>The “apparent age” hypothesis</strong> that claims God created the world to look old.</span></p></blockquote> <p>Oh, how confusing! What’s the correct answer? Vernon explains the three theories, and points out that the first two say “that death came before man’s creation, but the Bible clearly teaches death came as a direct result of man’s sin.” So we know they can’t be right. As for the third theory, he says:</p> <blockquote><p><span style="font-style:normal;">Finally, if God actually created the world to have an apparent deep-time age, then He would be contradicting Himself in Numbers 23:19 and deliberately deceiving His creation.</span></p></blockquote> <p><em>Wow</em> — all three theories are wrong. So where does that leave us? Vernon continues:</p> <blockquote><p><span style="font-style:normal;"><strong>What are the real scientific facts? The observations and reproducible experimental data support the biblical narrative better than any of the current scientific hypotheses such as deep time that appear to contradict both the Bible and the data.</strong></span></p></blockquote> <p>[*Begin <strong><font color="Green">Drool Mode</font></strong>*] <em>Ooooooooooooh!</em> [*End <strong><font color="Green">Drool Mode</font></strong>*] Those are the real scientific facts! You can believe Vernon, because he’s a creationist nuclear physicist. This is exciting! Let’s read on:</p> <blockquote><p><span style="font-style:normal;">One cannot reasonably believe in deep time and also believe the Bible is an accurate record of God’s Word to man. <strong>The deep-time paradigm and a rational view of Holy Scripture cannot be reconciled. Many of our youth realize this.</strong></span></p></blockquote> <p>Yes, many <em>do</em> recognize that — but Vernon doesn’t agree with their conclusions. The creationist nuclear physicist ends with this:</p> <blockquote><p><span style="font-style:normal;">Perhaps those who place their view of science over the Bible need to stop and think this through and be like the father who cried out to Jesus, “I believe; help my unbelief!”</span></p></blockquote> <p>He’s talking about you, dear reader. You need help.</p> <blockquote> <div style="background-color:#F2F2F2;font-style:normal;text-align:center;">Copyright © 2017. <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/">The Sensuous Curmudgeon</a>. 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They <em>have to</em> ignore or misrepresent any facts, and there are a lot of them, that contradict scripture and belief. Their fondness for facts is tenuous at best.</p> <p><em>One cannot reasonably believe in deep time and also believe the Bible is an accurate record of God’s Word to man. The deep-time paradigm and a rational view of Holy Scripture cannot be reconciled.</em></p> <p>Hey, he’s being a good sport about all this!</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-stephenpruis odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116854"> <div id="comment-116854"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dfe656d3a6fae42f840dbad0b0f699a714745318fcdc4e5ec0e75b2944cff408?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dfe656d3a6fae42f840dbad0b0f699a714745318fcdc4e5ec0e75b2944cff408?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dfe656d3a6fae42f840dbad0b0f699a714745318fcdc4e5ec0e75b2944cff408?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dfe656d3a6fae42f840dbad0b0f699a714745318fcdc4e5ec0e75b2944cff408?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dfe656d3a6fae42f840dbad0b0f699a714745318fcdc4e5ec0e75b2944cff408?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dfe656d3a6fae42f840dbad0b0f699a714745318fcdc4e5ec0e75b2944cff408?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn"><a href="http://stephenpruis.wordpress.com" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">Steve Ruis</a></cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116854"> 30-September-2017 at 9:43 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>Whoa, it took six days?! What took Him so long? I thought he used magic and was timeless (living outside of time and space as it were). Why did it take any time at all? Why did it happen in stages? Why are the stages in Gen 1 and Gen 2 different. Why was Yahweh tired at the end? How can a god get tired?</p> <p>Enquiring minds want to know!</p> <p>Why did God create Adam in the first place? The Bible says he needed someone to care for his Garden (so Adam was the first Mexican?). If he created the whole garden by magic, why would he need anyone to tend it? Why didn’t he know Adam would be lonely and feel incomplete and so make Eve in response. Didn’t he already know that? And why couldn’t he find them when they were hiding, didn’t he already know what they were going to do and where they would be? Why would he be disappointed when he already knew what they would do? And who made them that way in the first place. See a misbehaving child, blame the parent I say!</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116855"> <div id="comment-116855"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">TomS</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116855"> 30-September-2017 at 9:56 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>There is at least one ancient Christian alternative, exemplified by Augustine<br /> <b>4</b>the days do not refer to any time imterval, or sequence of action, but rather parts of the created world</p> <p>That seems at least as worthy as mention as the “omphalos”</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116856"> <div id="comment-116856"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Tom B</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116856"> 30-September-2017 at 10:23 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>@TomS<br /> Perhaps the 6 days/parts of the created world are the sides of a hexagon that make up the flat earth. That a hexagon would mean 2 more “corners” than the stated 4 could be seen as a problem but we already know the Bible and YECs are mathematically challenged.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-retiredsciguy even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116857"> <div id="comment-116857"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn"><a href="http://cosmicimpacts.wordpress.com" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">retiredsciguy</a></cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116857"> 30-September-2017 at 11:13 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p><i>Vernon explains the three theories, and points out that the first two say “that death came before man’s creation, but the Bible clearly teaches death came as a direct result of man’s sin.” So we know they can’t be right.</i></p> <p>Of course, Vernon is <b>assuming</b> that the Bible is literal truth — an assumption that cannot be based on any evidence. It’s odd that a scientist such as a nuclear physicist would accept an idea that has zero evidence to support it.</p> <p>Just goes to show how powerful indoctrination is when administered at a young age.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116858"> <div id="comment-116858"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/88cdde0acbbb1122ac54922e9d18483d2a98ff671f30408eb45ce74cb6d9c235?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/88cdde0acbbb1122ac54922e9d18483d2a98ff671f30408eb45ce74cb6d9c235?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/88cdde0acbbb1122ac54922e9d18483d2a98ff671f30408eb45ce74cb6d9c235?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/88cdde0acbbb1122ac54922e9d18483d2a98ff671f30408eb45ce74cb6d9c235?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/88cdde0acbbb1122ac54922e9d18483d2a98ff671f30408eb45ce74cb6d9c235?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/88cdde0acbbb1122ac54922e9d18483d2a98ff671f30408eb45ce74cb6d9c235?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Coyote</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116858"> 30-September-2017 at 11:32 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>retiredsciguy — <em> It’s odd that a scientist such as a nuclear physicist would accept an idea that has zero evidence to support it.</em></p> <p>“Belief gets in the way of learning.”<br /> –Robert A. Heinlein</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116859"> <div id="comment-116859"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Michael Fugate</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116859"> 30-September-2017 at 11:52 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p><i>Perhaps those who place their view of science over the Bible need to stop and think this through and be like the father who cried out to Jesus, “I believe; help my unbelief!”</i></p> <p>Or maybe those who place their view of the Bible over science need to stop and think this through realizing that their obsession is detrimental to Christianity.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116861"> <div id="comment-116861"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Dave Luckett</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116861"> 1-October-2017 at 12:02 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>And there’s a certain whiff of creationist politics hanging about this, too. He’s not writing for people who actually accept physical what-you-call <i>evidence</i> about this subject. His main audience consists of his fellow-loons, and his main argument is that if they accept any part of the evidence, such as that for deep time, then they don’t accept the Bible.</p> <p>In the curious mental world that he and they inhabit, this is a knock-down argument.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116862"> <div id="comment-116862"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/fb8e8e6974485034607e7e410dbbfb9f6adbf2751511e75be6c442be4d3081fc?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/fb8e8e6974485034607e7e410dbbfb9f6adbf2751511e75be6c442be4d3081fc?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/fb8e8e6974485034607e7e410dbbfb9f6adbf2751511e75be6c442be4d3081fc?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/fb8e8e6974485034607e7e410dbbfb9f6adbf2751511e75be6c442be4d3081fc?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/fb8e8e6974485034607e7e410dbbfb9f6adbf2751511e75be6c442be4d3081fc?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/fb8e8e6974485034607e7e410dbbfb9f6adbf2751511e75be6c442be4d3081fc?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Ted Lawry</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116862"> 1-October-2017 at 12:06 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>“<em>data support the biblical narrative better than any of the current scientific hypotheses</em>”<br /> Only <em>better?</em> If the world really was only 6,000 year old, the world should be absolutely dripping with evidence of that! It should be a slam dunk!</p> <p>Furthermore what is a nuclear physicist doing talking about polls and bible verses? Hasn’t he got any science to talk about?</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116863"> <div id="comment-116863"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">TomS</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116863"> 1-October-2017 at 12:10 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>Those who claim to trust to a literal Bible rather than science – can they explain to us their opinion on geocentrism? Please keep to the literal meaning of the Bible, not any imaginative extensions beyond that.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116865"> <div id="comment-116865"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/590a1cb053b67de9c11e1f629aad5eff7d870945213317ddd043c5323d945cf8?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Michael Fugate</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116865"> 1-October-2017 at 12:22 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>Their opinion on egocentrism might be more relevant – you have to think pretty highly of your opinion to claim 99.9% of scientists are not only wrong, but going to hell just for disagreeing with you.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116866"> <div id="comment-116866"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Dave Luckett</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116866"> 1-October-2017 at 12:29 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>Further (and I should have said this first), Cupps is plainly venting a cry of failure. He’s attempting to scrape the shattered cohorts together for a last stand. The mental walls around the creationist world are crumbling away. Fewer and fewer now think that the Bible is to be read literally. The creationist demographic, for generations stuck at 40-45% of the adult population of the United States, is now palpably, measurably shrinking.</p> <p>Of course there will be a remnant predicting God’s revenge. When that doesn’t happen, it will only accelerate the shrinkage – but it may possibly cause a few of the most demented to appoint themselves as agents of the Almighty. It’s worth watching for that, but I think, generally, that what we are seeing here is an acknowledgement of defeat.</p> <p>I think it is time for a song of triumph, only Arthur Quiller-Couch beat me to it by a century and a half, at least:</p> <p>SAY not the struggle naught availeth,<br /> The labour and the wounds are vain,<br /> The enemy faints not, nor faileth,<br /> And as things have been they remain. </p> <p>If hopes were dupes, fears may be liars;<br /> It may be, in yon smoke conceal’d,<br /> Your comrades chase e’en now the fliers,<br /> And, but for you, possess the field. </p> <p>For while the tired waves, vainly breaking,<br /> Seem here no painful inch to gain,<br /> Far back, through creeks and inlets making,<br /> Comes silent, flooding in, the main. </p> <p>And not by eastern windows only,<br /> When daylight comes, comes in the light;<br /> In front the sun climbs slow, how slowly!<br /> But westward, look, the land is bright!</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116867"> <div id="comment-116867"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1458e7623148480e571e96e2193c06d6aac2dcaf44d11fd5d696b9fd2be2f657?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Tom B</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116867"> 1-October-2017 at 12:39 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>If 50% of millennials are certain a magic cloud fairy exists and 52% believe the Bible is the written word of said fairy, then critical thinking skills need a bigger place and more emphasis in education.<br /> Apparently I agree with Vernon, these credulous individuals need to “stop and think this through”.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116869"> <div id="comment-116869"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">TomS</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116869"> 1-October-2017 at 2:58 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>@Dave Luckett<br /> I agree.<br /> There is recent book which explores the reception of the Adam and Eve story throughout the ages, in theology, art, literature and science.<br /> One theme seems to be that with the Renaissance, people started to take the story realistically in a modern sense and that led to the exposure of flaws that the story couldn’t bear. Starting with Milton.<br /> It would be interesting to see a treatment through time of other Biblical stories. But there is not as deep human interest in other Biblical stories as to bear such treatment. Maybe Noah’s Ark. Only a few people like us would buy a book on the Creation Week.<br /> Stephen Greenblatt<br /> The Rise and Fall of Adam and Eve<br /> WW Norton 2017<br /> 978-0-393-24080-1</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-mnb0 even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116871"> <div id="comment-116871"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0ba9eccf727fd255217a241257fe6fed3da33a8f1ef843547aab12edf696f935?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0ba9eccf727fd255217a241257fe6fed3da33a8f1ef843547aab12edf696f935?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0ba9eccf727fd255217a241257fe6fed3da33a8f1ef843547aab12edf696f935?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0ba9eccf727fd255217a241257fe6fed3da33a8f1ef843547aab12edf696f935?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0ba9eccf727fd255217a241257fe6fed3da33a8f1ef843547aab12edf696f935?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0ba9eccf727fd255217a241257fe6fed3da33a8f1ef843547aab12edf696f935?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">mnb0</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116871"> 1-October-2017 at 5:22 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>I cannot help wonder what Cuppscake thinks of Origenes of Alexandria:</p> <p>“For who that has understanding will suppose that the first, and second, and third day, and the evening and the morning, existed without a sun, and moon, and stars? And that the first day was, as it were, also without a sky? And who is so foolish as to suppose that God, after the manner of a husbandman, planted a paradise in Eden, towards the east, and placed in it a tree of life, visible and palpable, so that one tasting of the fruit by the bodily teeth obtained life? And again, that one was a partaker of good and evil by masticating what was taken from the tree? And if God is said to walk in the paradise in the evening, and Adam to hide himself under a tree, I do not suppose that anyone doubts that these things figuratively indicate certain mysteries, the history having taken place in appearance, and not literally.”</p> <p>And if Cuppscake thinks Genesis entirely should be understood literally I wonder what he thinks of Galatians 4:21-24.</p> <p>“Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. “Abraham had two sons.” How many sons did Abraham have?But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory …..”</p> <p>That’s to say, if Cuppscake thinks at all.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116872"> <div id="comment-116872"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/5d41f82ee091edc980baf5ed517d220be6b0bcd8743da43caf739c072c46df19?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/5d41f82ee091edc980baf5ed517d220be6b0bcd8743da43caf739c072c46df19?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/5d41f82ee091edc980baf5ed517d220be6b0bcd8743da43caf739c072c46df19?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/5d41f82ee091edc980baf5ed517d220be6b0bcd8743da43caf739c072c46df19?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/5d41f82ee091edc980baf5ed517d220be6b0bcd8743da43caf739c072c46df19?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/5d41f82ee091edc980baf5ed517d220be6b0bcd8743da43caf739c072c46df19?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Ross Cameron</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116872"> 1-October-2017 at 5:24 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>‘These are alarming figures that reflect our postmodernist culture’. More likely with the spread of education and development of critical thinking, aided by the Internet, people are exposed to contrary ideas and evidence. If you can read, write and think rationally, you can see the holes in fantasy. Maybe there is hope for the human race.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116874"> <div id="comment-116874"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=48' srcset='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=48 1x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=72 1.5x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=96 2x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=144 3x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48 avatar-default' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Anonymous</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116874"> 1-October-2017 at 8:13 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>“The day-age views — of which theistic evolution and punctuated equilibrium are subsets — that seek to interpret the six days of Genesis 1 as ages rather than 24-hour days.”</p> <p>I’ve seen misinterpretations of punk eek before, but this one takes the biscuit.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-retiredsciguy odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116876"> <div id="comment-116876"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn"><a href="http://cosmicimpacts.wordpress.com" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">retiredsciguy</a></cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116876"> 1-October-2017 at 10:40 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p><b>Coyote:</b><br /> <i>“Belief gets in the way of learning.”<br /> –Robert A. Heinlein</i></p> <p>Thank you. Heinlein said it perfectly. I wish I had known of that quote while I was still teaching — It would have been prominently displayed at the front of the classroom.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116877"> <div id="comment-116877"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/4bbcb820d2c9272bb3d33f83aecb212f1eb02b515ba04bdf01555b261eb3eaed?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/4bbcb820d2c9272bb3d33f83aecb212f1eb02b515ba04bdf01555b261eb3eaed?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/4bbcb820d2c9272bb3d33f83aecb212f1eb02b515ba04bdf01555b261eb3eaed?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/4bbcb820d2c9272bb3d33f83aecb212f1eb02b515ba04bdf01555b261eb3eaed?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/4bbcb820d2c9272bb3d33f83aecb212f1eb02b515ba04bdf01555b261eb3eaed?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/4bbcb820d2c9272bb3d33f83aecb212f1eb02b515ba04bdf01555b261eb3eaed?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Skeptical Servant</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116877"> 1-October-2017 at 11:03 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>I’m so sick of ICR we have overwhelming evidence that our world is old period. I don’t care if someone believes in evolution or not as long as they acknowledged that our is indeed old. This Veron is ignoring the evidence to fit his beliefs he should shut up and listen to people who actually do research of dating the age of earth than using a book who could have been written by anyone and have been changed overtime.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-retiredsciguy odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116878"> <div id="comment-116878"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn"><a href="http://cosmicimpacts.wordpress.com" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">retiredsciguy</a></cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116878"> 1-October-2017 at 11:29 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>I should have added that I taught earth science & astronomy — geologic time scale, big bang, etc.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-retiredsciguy even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116879"> <div id="comment-116879"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7eb95e042974f8e746ca7c2000bad061adda1bac879953e75653772a0ee93eb5?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn"><a href="http://cosmicimpacts.wordpress.com" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">retiredsciguy</a></cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116879"> 1-October-2017 at 11:29 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>Oh — and evolution.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-jimwroberts odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116881"> <div id="comment-116881"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/32121e67f45085554c5d11ebcfdcd8d56afee5001fdcd3aea2182d74119cc28c?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/32121e67f45085554c5d11ebcfdcd8d56afee5001fdcd3aea2182d74119cc28c?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/32121e67f45085554c5d11ebcfdcd8d56afee5001fdcd3aea2182d74119cc28c?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/32121e67f45085554c5d11ebcfdcd8d56afee5001fdcd3aea2182d74119cc28c?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/32121e67f45085554c5d11ebcfdcd8d56afee5001fdcd3aea2182d74119cc28c?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/32121e67f45085554c5d11ebcfdcd8d56afee5001fdcd3aea2182d74119cc28c?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">jimroberts</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116881"> 1-October-2017 at 11:55 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>@mnb0: “Abraham had two sons.” How many sons did Abraham have?</p> <p>You have accidentally copied SAB’s marginal note as well as the text you wanted. This is interesting, rather than mere nitpickery on my part, because inclusion of owners’ marginal notes into the text of a copy is one of the recognised ways in which ancient documents changed over time.</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116882"> <div id="comment-116882"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">TomS</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116882"> 1-October-2017 at 12:37 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>@Skeptical Servant<br /> <i>believes in evolution</i><br /> Many of us avoid the word “believe” in respect to the obvious, because the creationists like to make belief a matter of religious faith. I accept evolution because of the evidence and reasoning.<br /> For example, it is the only known explanation for the complex pattern we observe in the “tree of life”.<br /> Of course, what is most objectionable is mostly a matter of taste. To me, what is irritating is inconsistency, the sort where someone says that the Bible overrides science, and then makes up stuff that isn’t in the Bible to override evolution, and ignores stuff that is in the Bible to accept the science of heliocentrism. (I’m saying “inconsistency” as a euphemism.)</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116884"> <div id="comment-116884"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b850a97a2188cf584c106dae32c9df5d1fd014ebfca3d73018d6fa54fbfc3ba2?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b850a97a2188cf584c106dae32c9df5d1fd014ebfca3d73018d6fa54fbfc3ba2?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b850a97a2188cf584c106dae32c9df5d1fd014ebfca3d73018d6fa54fbfc3ba2?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b850a97a2188cf584c106dae32c9df5d1fd014ebfca3d73018d6fa54fbfc3ba2?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b850a97a2188cf584c106dae32c9df5d1fd014ebfca3d73018d6fa54fbfc3ba2?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b850a97a2188cf584c106dae32c9df5d1fd014ebfca3d73018d6fa54fbfc3ba2?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Draken</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116884"> 1-October-2017 at 12:49 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>You mean the Bible changed over time? Oh noes that can’t be!</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116885"> <div id="comment-116885"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=48' srcset='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=48 1x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=72 1.5x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=96 2x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=144 3x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48 avatar-default' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Anonymous</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116885"> 1-October-2017 at 12:50 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><blockquote><p>One cannot reasonably believe in deep time and also believe the Bible is an accurate record of God’s Word to man. The deep-time paradigm and a rational view of Holy Scripture cannot be reconciled. Many of our youth realize this.</p></blockquote> <p>And, if they have any sense (never a certainty with the offspring of fundamentalists of any religion) reject the Bible as “an accurate record of God’s Word to man.” Which may account for the decline in acceptance of Biblical literalism among the millennial children of the “faithful.”</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116888"> <div id="comment-116888"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dbc8ea1cb9e53338c739218d7734d17c4a9bbb416d2f08520383e3f35f73dccf?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">TomS</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116888"> 1-October-2017 at 2:25 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>What accounted for the <b>rise</b> of so-called “Biblical literalism”?</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116898"> <div id="comment-116898"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/2186779a970981b2287bf1a2348dfc51ca8159f613f08141152abe9b90b756c2?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Dave Luckett</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116898"> 1-October-2017 at 10:16 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>That’s a very interesting question, TomS, and disturbing. For most of the history of Christianity, the church was happy to teach that the truths of scripture may be expressed metaphorically, in allegory and parable. Why, in the last decades of the nineteenth century and into the twentieth, did there arise this insistence that the text had to be read literally? Even more, why, from the 1960’s, did the crazy pseudoscience of Morris and Whitcombe <i>et al</i> gain such traction? That happened precisely in the period when the United States, stung by the success of the Soviet space program, suddenly emphasized science education as never before.</p> <p>I believe any explanation has to cover the historical facts: this new dogma arose mostly among the new evangelical sects; it was far and away strongest in the United States, and most especially in the south; it coincided with the advent of mass media; and although Biblical literalism antedated the First World War, its strongest expression came after it, into the twenties. Can it be fitted into a pattern of backlash against any and all modernity – with prohibition, the Hayes office, and so on?</p> <p>No doubt doctoral theses have been written on the phenomenon. Ah. To the googlemobile!</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-116917"> <div id="comment-116917"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/f11f79cfb38f713f4dd2cd49d2108e3c0c9d5784ee32a5c489532bca9315c7f8?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/f11f79cfb38f713f4dd2cd49d2108e3c0c9d5784ee32a5c489532bca9315c7f8?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/f11f79cfb38f713f4dd2cd49d2108e3c0c9d5784ee32a5c489532bca9315c7f8?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/f11f79cfb38f713f4dd2cd49d2108e3c0c9d5784ee32a5c489532bca9315c7f8?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/f11f79cfb38f713f4dd2cd49d2108e3c0c9d5784ee32a5c489532bca9315c7f8?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/f11f79cfb38f713f4dd2cd49d2108e3c0c9d5784ee32a5c489532bca9315c7f8?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Holding the Line in Florida</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116917"> 2-October-2017 at 12:53 pm</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>@retiredsiceguy You know how it is in the classroom. The powers that be want it to be very “inviting and friendly” to the young’uns. The female teachers are professional decorators and all have their room all very prettied up. Being an old infantry sergeant, I am much more Spartan in my décor. My decoration is indeed quotes from scientists, great thinkers and hurricane tracking maps. This is Florida! The quote in question is indeed figuring prominently placed next to my Bohr, Einstein and Sagan quotes!</p> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-116966"> <div id="comment-116966"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/30a488d7c70d691e378eb461b492146fd11538235223b7e76beafbee96cc754c?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48' srcset='https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/30a488d7c70d691e378eb461b492146fd11538235223b7e76beafbee96cc754c?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/30a488d7c70d691e378eb461b492146fd11538235223b7e76beafbee96cc754c?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D72 1.5x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/30a488d7c70d691e378eb461b492146fd11538235223b7e76beafbee96cc754c?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 2x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/30a488d7c70d691e378eb461b492146fd11538235223b7e76beafbee96cc754c?s=144&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D144 3x, https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/30a488d7c70d691e378eb461b492146fd11538235223b7e76beafbee96cc754c?s=192&d=https%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D192 4x' class='avatar avatar-48' height='48' width='48' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /> <cite class="fn">Kevin MURPHY</cite> <span class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> | <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/#comment-116966"> 4-October-2017 at 9:09 am</a> | </span> </div> <div class="comment-body"><p>SC. You say we dear readers need help. at least according to Vernon. But you and he are right. I need help better understanding evolution. I need help better understanding quantum physics. I need help better understanding higher math. I have given up hope on better understanding women.</p> </div> </div> </li> </ol> </div> </div> </div> <div id="primary" class="widget-area" role="complementary"> <ul class="xoxo"> <li id="text-97663711" class="widget-container widget_text"> <div class="textwidget"><hr><ul><p><p> <strong>This blog's RSS feed link</strong>: <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/feed"><img src="https://faq.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/a28.png"></a><br> </ul><hr></div> </li><li id="search-2" class="widget-container widget_search"><form role="search" method="get" id="searchform" class="searchform" action="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/"> <div> <label class="screen-reader-text" for="s">Search for:</label> <input type="text" value="" name="s" id="s" /> <input type="submit" id="searchsubmit" value="Search" /> </div> </form></li><li id="blog_subscription-3" class="widget-container widget_blog_subscription jetpack_subscription_widget"><h3 class="widget-title"><label for="subscribe-field">Email Subscription</label></h3> <div class="wp-block-jetpack-subscriptions__container"> <form action="https://subscribe.wordpress.com" method="post" accept-charset="utf-8" data-blog="3347351" data-post_access_level="everybody" id="subscribe-blog" > <p>Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email.</p> <p id="subscribe-email"> <label id="subscribe-field-label" for="subscribe-field" class="screen-reader-text" > Email Address: </label> <input type="email" name="email" style="width: 95%; padding: 1px 10px" placeholder="Email Address" value="" id="subscribe-field" required /> </p> <p id="subscribe-submit" > <input type="hidden" name="action" value="subscribe"/> <input type="hidden" name="blog_id" value="3347351"/> <input type="hidden" name="source" value="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/icr-six-day-creation-means-six-literal-days/"/> <input type="hidden" name="sub-type" value="widget"/> <input type="hidden" name="redirect_fragment" value="subscribe-blog"/> <input type="hidden" id="_wpnonce" name="_wpnonce" value="9238460716" /> <button type="submit" class="wp-block-button__link" > Sign me up! </button> </p> </form> </div> </li><li id="text-310822361" class="widget-container widget_text"><h3 class="widget-title">Commenting Rules</h3> <div class="textwidget"><div style="background-color:#F2F2F2;"><p><p>Creationists should read the rules before posting any comments. 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src='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/eec43051c94a2824373f9d460d0f6d44fed2e2e5e28e473d4dd4a9a9e40ea5e7?s=32&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32' srcset='https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/eec43051c94a2824373f9d460d0f6d44fed2e2e5e28e473d4dd4a9a9e40ea5e7?s=32&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32 1x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/eec43051c94a2824373f9d460d0f6d44fed2e2e5e28e473d4dd4a9a9e40ea5e7?s=48&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48 1.5x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/eec43051c94a2824373f9d460d0f6d44fed2e2e5e28e473d4dd4a9a9e40ea5e7?s=64&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D64 2x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/eec43051c94a2824373f9d460d0f6d44fed2e2e5e28e473d4dd4a9a9e40ea5e7?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 3x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/eec43051c94a2824373f9d460d0f6d44fed2e2e5e28e473d4dd4a9a9e40ea5e7?s=128&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D128 4x' class='avatar avatar-32' height='32' width='32' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /></td><td class="recentcommentstextend" style="">richard on <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2024/01/07/is-this-the-curmudgeons-last-free-fire-zone/#comment-161800">Is This the Curmudgeon’s…</a></td></tr><tr><td title="Paul Braterman" class="recentcommentsavatarend" style="height:32px; width:32px;"><a href="http://paulbraterman.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow"><img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ab3ec3c5b67930f9d2c04b3d8fceb68701c86bf20cee68a4c1fd968c2e9419b4?s=32&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32' 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https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/eec43051c94a2824373f9d460d0f6d44fed2e2e5e28e473d4dd4a9a9e40ea5e7?s=64&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D64 2x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/eec43051c94a2824373f9d460d0f6d44fed2e2e5e28e473d4dd4a9a9e40ea5e7?s=96&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96 3x, https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/eec43051c94a2824373f9d460d0f6d44fed2e2e5e28e473d4dd4a9a9e40ea5e7?s=128&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D128 4x' class='avatar avatar-32' height='32' width='32' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /></td><td class="recentcommentstextend" style="">richard on <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2024/01/07/is-this-the-curmudgeons-last-free-fire-zone/#comment-161797">Is This the Curmudgeon’s…</a></td></tr><tr><td title="richard" class="recentcommentsavatarend" style="height:32px; width:32px;"><img alt='' 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https://2.gravatar.com/avatar/eec43051c94a2824373f9d460d0f6d44fed2e2e5e28e473d4dd4a9a9e40ea5e7?s=128&d=https%3A%2F%2F2.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D128 4x' class='avatar avatar-32' height='32' width='32' loading='lazy' decoding='async' /></td><td class="recentcommentstextend" style="">richard on <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2024/01/07/is-this-the-curmudgeons-last-free-fire-zone/#comment-161796">Is This the Curmudgeon’s…</a></td></tr><tr><td title="Paul Braterman" class="recentcommentsavatarend" style="height:32px; width:32px;"><a href="http://paulbraterman.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow"><img alt='' src='https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ab3ec3c5b67930f9d2c04b3d8fceb68701c86bf20cee68a4c1fd968c2e9419b4?s=32&d=https%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32' 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Presidential Hopefuls</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/open-letter-to-elena-kagan/">Open Letter to Elena Kagan</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/open-letter-to-marco-rubio/">Open Letter to Marco Rubio</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/open-letter-to-sonia-sotomayor/">Open Letter to Sonia Sotomayor</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/open-letter-to-the-republican-party/">Open Letter to the Republican Party</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/open-letter-to-steve-forbes/">Open Letter to Steve Forbes</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/open-letter-to-sarah-palin/">Open Letter to Sarah Palin</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/open-letter-to-john-mccain/">Open Letter to John McCain</a><p></div> </li><li id="text-121574501" class="widget-container widget_text"><h3 class="widget-title">Discovery Institute Antics</h3> <div class="textwidget">All of our articles about the Discovery Institute are listed here: <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/discoveroids/">Discoveroids</a>.<p><p> A dozen or so of our favorites are also listed below:<p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2015/01/30/discovery-institute-dark-ages-think-tank/">Discovery Institute -- Dark Ages Think Tank</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2012/02/10/discovery-institute-the-designer-can-be-sloppy/">Discovery Institute: The Designer Can Be Sloppy</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/discovery-institute-celebrates-its-cult-founding/">Discovery Institute Celebrates Its Cult Founding</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/discovery-institutes-new-form-of-proof/">Discovery Institute’s New Form of Proof</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/discovery-institutes-long-march-to-respectability/">Discovery Institute's Long March to Respectability</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2011/02/02/klinghoffer-darwinism-is-the-path-to-putrefaction/">Klinghoffer: Darwinism is the Path to Putrefaction</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/discovery-institute-creationist-peer-review/">Discovery Institute: Creationist “Peer-Review”</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/discovery-institute-weeps-for-don-mcleroy/">Discovery Institute Weeps for Don McLeroy</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/discovery-institutes-recap-20-million-for-this/">Discovery Institutee’s Recap: $20 Million For This?</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/discovery-institute-the-mask-falls-away/">Discovery Institute: The Mask Falls Away</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/discovery-institute-dover-derangement-syndrome/">Discovery Institute: Dover Derangement Syndrome</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/discovery-institute-a-cornucopia-of-chicanery/">Discovery Institute: A Cornucopia of Chicanery</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/discovery-institute-micro-macro-tutti-frutti/">Discovery Institute: Micro Macro, Tutti Frutti</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/intelligent-design-its-not-about-science/">Intelligent Design: It’s Not About Science</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/discovery-institute-deep-in-denial-over-dover/">Discovery Institute: Deep in Denial Over Dover</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/discovery-institute-feasting-on-death/">Discovery Institute: Feasting on Death</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/discovery-institute-stunning-hypocrisy/">Discovery Institute — Stunning Hypocrisy!</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/discovery-institute-a-progress-report/">Discovery Institute: A Progress Report</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/discovery-institute-their-recommended-reading-list/">Discovery Institute: Their Recommended Reading List</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/discovery-institute-usurping-the-fourth-of-july/">Discovery Institute: Usurping the Fourth of July</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/discovery-institute-ecstasy-over-louisiana/">Discovery Institute — Ecstasy Over Louisiana</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/discovery-institute-delusional-in-seattle/">Discovery Institute — Delusional in Seattle</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/discovery-institute-an-insiders-tale/">Discovery Institute — An Insider’s Tale</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/discovery-institute-full-frontal-stupidity/">Discovery Institute: Full Frontal Stupidity</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/discovery-institute-beyond-incoherence/">Discovery Institute: Beyond Incoherence</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/04/04/charles-darwin-and-the-bicycle-riders/">Charles Darwin and the Bicycle Riders</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/enemies-of-the-enlightenment/">Discovery Institute: Enemies of the Enlightenment</a></div> </li><li id="text-208029911" class="widget-container widget_text"><h3 class="widget-title">Kitzmiller v. Dover</h3> <div class="textwidget"><div style="border:1px solid black;padding:3px;"><p><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/john-haught-witness-in-the-dover-case/">John Haught: Witness in the Dover Case</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/three-years-since-dover-merry-kitzmas/">Three Years Since Dover -- Merry Kitzmas!</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/kitzmiller-v-dover-michael-behes-testimony/">Kitzmiller v. Dover: Michael Behe's Testimony</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/kitzmiller-v-dover-the-role-of-the-discovery-institute/">Kitzmiller v. Dover: The Role of The Discovery Institute</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/kitzmiller-v-dover-whats-the-wedge-document/">Kitzmiller v. Dover: What's the Wedge Document?</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/kitzmiller-v-dover-who-is-the-intelligent-designer/">Kitzmiller v. Dover: Who is the Intelligent Designer?</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/kitzmiller-v-dover-is-id-science/">Kitzmiller v. Dover: Is ID Science?</a></div></div> </li><li id="text-120819281" class="widget-container widget_text"><h3 class="widget-title">Dr. Swinefat Pink: Indenial Jones, etc.</h3> <div class="textwidget"><div style="background-color:#F2F2F2;"><p><p><a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2016/07/09/12-years-a-knave-by-dr-swinefat-pink/">12 YEARS A KNAVE</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2014/02/09/gullikins-island-episode-2/">GULLIKIN’S ISLAND -- Episode 2</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2014/02/05/gullikins-island-by-dr-swinefat-pink/">GULLIKIN’S ISLAND, by Dr. Swinefat Pink</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2012/08/31/my-bare-spacey-by-dr-swinefat-pink/">My Bare Spacey, by Dr. Swinefat Pink</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/05/14/coming-soon-ben-stein-as-indenial-jones-sequel-to-expelled/">Coming Soon — Ben Stein as Indenial Jones (Sequel to Expelled)</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/deluders-of-the-noachic-ark-part-the-first/">Deluders of the Noachic Ark: Part the First</a><p> <a href="https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/06/01/deluders-of-the-noachic-ark-part-the-second/">Deluders of the Noachic Ark: Part the Second</a></div></div> </li><li id="text-404027241" class="widget-container widget_text"><h3 class="widget-title">Email Address and Rules</h3> <div class="textwidget"><div style="background-color:#F2F2F2;"><p><p>sensuouscurmudgeon@gmail.com<p><p> Remarks about articles should be posted as comments. <p> We can't promise to reply, and we probably won't look at unrequested attachments. <p> We reserve the right to publicly post offensive email sent to us, with full information about the source.</div></div> </li><li id="text-313308491" class="widget-container widget_text"><h3 class="widget-title">Buffoon Award Winners</h3> <div class="textwidget"><div style="background-color:#F2F2F2;"><p><p><a 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