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class="field field-type-filefield field-field-image-feature"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <figure><img src="https://jacket2.org/sites/jacket2.org/files/imagecache/wide_main_column/IMG_3852_2.jpg" alt="" title="From left: erica kaufman, Joan Retallack, Laynie Browne" class="imagecache imagecache-wide_main_column imagecache-default imagecache-wide_main_column_default" /><figcaption>From left: erica kaufman, Joan Retallack, Laynie Browne</figcaption></figure> </div> </div> </div> <p><a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/podcasts/PoemTalk/PoemTalk-175_On-Joan-Retallacks-Poethical-Wager.mp3">LISTEN TO THE SHOW</a></p> <p>PoemTalk went on the road, along with PoemTalk’s editor Zach Carduner, our tech guru pal Chris Martin (Zach on video, Chris on audio), and our colleague Laynie Browne. We wandered up some PA/NJ/NY highways into the mid-Hudson Valley, landing at Annandale-on-Hudson, the home of Bard College, where we decamped with all our gear and were joined by Joan Retallack, erica kaufman, and Laynie.</p> <p><img src="/sites/jacket2.org/files/commentary-images/Retallack%20Poethical%20Wager%20bookcover%202.jpg" width="275" height="367" style="float: right;" class="right" />Hosted by Al Filreis, the group gathered at Bard to talk about <a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/authors/Retallack/Retallack-Joan_Poethical-Wager_excerpts.pdf">two passages</a> from the opening pages of Joan Retallack’s essay “The Poethical Wager” in the collection of thirteen essays that comprise the 279-page book <a href="https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520218413/the-poethical-wager"><em>The Poethical Wager</em></a>, published by the University of California Press in 2003. Al proposed to discuss <a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/authors/Retallack/Retallack-Joan_Poethical-Wager_excerpts.pdf">passages</a> from the beginning of the title essay — specifically, its opening pages (pages 21–25), part of a conversation the author conducts with a version of herself, a “slef”-interview conducted by one Quinta Slef; and second, a few paragraphs on pages 57 and 58 about Gertrude Stein, John Cage, Ludwig Wittgenstein, and others. Each PoemTalk episode of course opens with a recording made by the poet; in this special instance we asked Joan to read a few portions of <a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/authors/Retallack/Retallack-Joan_Poethical-Wager_excerpts.pdf">the chosen passages</a> during the discussion itself.</p> <p>The unplanned conversation, not surprisingly, turned out to be about the unplanned, unknown things we compose by writing, thinking, and living. Engaging in such an “unofficial” improvisitory mode is “daunting,” as Joan notes, “if your primary concern is control.” Please listen as the PoemTalkers join her in robustly calling for “a robustly nuanced reasonableness” that does not derive from a notion of <img src="/sites/jacket2.org/files/commentary-images/erica%20kaufman%20Laynie%20Browne%20at%20Bard%20Apr%202022.jpg" width="300" height="225" style="float: left;" class="left" />progress pushing inexorably toward the known. Insofar as “to get lost in the writing can be a way out of officially charted territory,” we found the conversation taking the form of such getting-lost. To the extent that we could achieve this state we were able to outline a “form of life” (using that phrase, Joan is quoting Wittgenstein). Everything in life is the same, Stein argues in “<a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/authors/Retallack/Retallack-Joan_various-pieces-by-gertrude-stein_KWH_10-12-00.mp3">Composition As Explanation</a>,” <em>except</em> “composition and time, composition and the time of the composition.” That time is now, and for the PoemTalk team during a wonderful afternoon along the Hudson, it was a moment of continuous present.</p> <p>As noted above, Chris Martin engineered the sound while Zach Carduner managed several cameras — and they were aided by the brilliant presence of our favorite audiophile Chris Funkhouser. Zach Carduner was as ever PoemTalk’s editor. Since 2007 PoemTalk has been a partnership between PennSound and the Kelly Writers House and the Poetry Foundation, and we take this moment to thank our supportive partners at PF, especially Janet Cheung, Eric Shoemaker, and Shoshana Olidort, and KWH people who help make PT happen back home at 3805 Locust Walk in Philadelphia, especially Andrew Beal, Julia Morales, and Kenna O’Rourke.</p> <p>The unedited video recording of this episode of PoemTalk is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcs4zRiHmzs">available on YouTube</a> and is also embedded here below.</p> <p><iframe style="font-size: 14px;" title="YouTube video player" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/lcs4zRiHmzs" frameborder="0" width="425" height="350"></iframe><span style="font-size: 14px;"> </span></p> <div class="field field-type-link field-field-podcast-link"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/podcasts/PoemTalk/PoemTalk-175_On-Joan-Retallacks-Poethical-Wager.mp3">LISTEN TO THE SHOW</a> </div> </div> </div> <br /><div class="meta"><span class="submitted">August 26, 2022</span></div><div class="field field-type-nodereference field-field-podcast-related"> <div class="field-label">Related Content: </div> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <a href="/commentary/joan-retallack-close-listening">Joan Retallack on Close Listening</a> </div> <div class="field-item even"> <a href="/article/joan-retallack-steins-war-years">Joan Retallack on Stein's war years </a> </div> <div class="field-item odd"> <a href="/commentary/joan-retallacks-not-cage">Joan Retallack's "Not a Cage"</a> </div> <div class="field-item even"> <a href="/commentary/joan-retallack-reinvention-truth-madison">Joan Retallack: The reinvention of truth in Madison</a> </div> <div class="field-item odd"> <a href="/poems/poems-joan-retallack">Poems by Joan Retallack</a> </div> </div> </div> <div class="terms"> <div class="field-label">TAGS:</div><ul class="links inline"><li class="taxonomy_term_3517 first"><a href="/category/commentary-tags/al-filreis" rel="tag" title="">Al Filreis</a></li> <li class="taxonomy_term_5088"><a href="/category/commentary-tags/erica-kaufman" rel="tag" title="">erica kaufman</a></li> <li class="taxonomy_term_3527"><a href="/category/commentary-tags/joan-retallack" rel="tag" title="">Joan Retallack</a></li> <li class="taxonomy_term_5567"><a href="/category/commentary-tags/laynie-browne" rel="tag" title="">Laynie Browne</a></li> <li class="taxonomy_term_3119 last"><a href="/category/al-filreis-tags/poemtalk" rel="tag" title="">PoemTalk</a></li> </ul><br /></div> </div> <ul class="links inline"><li class="addthis first last"><span> <a class="addthis-button" href="http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php" onfocus="return addthis_open(this, '', '[URL]', '[TITLE]')" onmouseover="return addthis_open(this, '', '[URL]', '[TITLE]')" onblur="addthis_close()" onmouseout="addthis_close()" onclick="return addthis_sendto()"><img src="http://s7.addthis.com/static/btn/v2/lg-share-en.gif" width="125" height="16" alt="share" class="addthisimage" /></a><script type="text/javascript" src="https://secure.addthis.com/js/152/addthis_widget.js"></script></span></li> </ul></div> <!-- /.node --> </div> </section> <aside id="secondary" class="column sidebar second"> <div class="region region-right"> <div id="block-views-podcasts_section_series-block_9" class="block block-views region-odd odd region-count-1 count-1"> <div class="content"> <div class="view view-podcasts-section-series view-id-podcasts_section_series view-display-id-block_9 view-dom-id-1 view-podcasts-section-series view-id-podcasts_section_series view-display-id-block_9 view-dom-id-1"> <div class="view-content"> <div class="views-row views-row-1 views-row-odd views-row-first views-row-last"> <div class="views-field-field-podcast-sidebar-value"> <div class="field-content"><p><strong>POEMTALK</strong> is a collaboration of the <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/wh">Kelly Writers House</a> and <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound">PennSound</a>. 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C. Williams we remember <br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/outside-box-poemtalk-31">PT#31</a>: Robert Grenier’s box of poem-cards <br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/art-and-power-poemtalk-32">PT#32</a>: Susan Howe’s Emily Dickinson <br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/flarf-corrosive-poemtalk-33">PT#33</a>: flarfist Sharon Mesmer <br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/back-geography-poemtalk-34">PT#34</a>: Charles Olson’s Maximus <br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/trained-listener-poemtalk-35">PT#35</a>: Bruce Andrews at the center <br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/writing-through-imagism-poemtalk-36">PT#36</a>: J. Scappettone writes through H.D. <br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/finding-words-poemtalk-37">PT#37</a>: Jena Osman drops leaflets <br /><a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/web_root/pennsound/podcasts/PoemTalk/PoemTalk-38-Fischer_Id-Like-to-See-It.mp3">PT#38</a>: Norman Fischer would like to see it<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/after-night-years-poemtalk-39">PT#39</a>: Etheridge Knight and Gwendolyn Brooks<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/loss-reverse-poemtalk-40">PT#40</a>: Susan Schultz blogs dementia<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/ezra-venice-poemtalk-41">PT#41</a>: Ezra Pound in Venice<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/hole-torn-world-poemtalk-42">PT#42</a>: Nathaniel Tarn’s ecopoetics<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/wieners-night-poemtalk-43">PT#43</a>: John Weiners by night<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/other-side-tracks-poemtalk-44">PT#44</a>: Fred Wah’s race to go<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/poem-going-down-drain-poemtalk-45">PT#45</a>: Eileen Myles does what they teach<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/writing-through-ezra-poemtalk-46">PT#46</a>: Jackson Mac Low writes through Ezra<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/inalienable-writes-poemtalk-47">PT#47</a>: Rosmarie Waldrop’s America<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/ill-angelic-poetics-poemtalk-48">PT#48</a>: Edgar Allan Poe’s “Dream-Land”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/writing-slow-down-poemtalk-49">PT#49</a>: P. Inman advocates slow writing<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/state-error-poemtalk-50">PT#50</a>: Tom Raworth’s state of error<br /><a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/podcasts/PoemTalk/PoemTalk-51-Dinh-Eating_Fried_Chicken.mp3">PT#51</a>: Linh Dinh on race, food, and war<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/where-real-exceeds-ideal-poemtalk-52">PT#52</a>: Cole Swensen on art and gardens<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/obscure-things-have-already-been-said-poemtalk-53">PT#53</a>: Joan Retallack’s homage to Cage<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/value-pronoun-poemtalk-54">PT#54</a>: Ron Silliman’s “You”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/find-missing-line-poemtalk-55">PT#55</a>: Jennifer Moxley’s line<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/without-house-and-ground-poemtalk-56">PT#56</a>: Charles Reznikoff’s Mishnaic poetics<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/cut-same-tongue-poemtalk-57">PT#57</a>: Djanikian and the alphabet of genocide<a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/tired-poor-huddled-gentrified-poemtalk-58"><br />PT#58:</a> Mayer’s Statue of Liberty<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/yankee-go-home-poemtalk-59">PT#59</a>: Blackburn on baseball and imperialism<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/whelm-lessons-poemtalk-60">PT#60</a>: The bebop verse of Clark Coolidge<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/i-cant-get-started-poemtalk-61">PT#61</a>: Bill Berkson’s signature song<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/space-only-you-can-build-poemtalk-62">PT#62</a>: Charles Alexander’s post-9/11 poem<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/daytime-never-ends-poemtalk-63">PT#63</a>: Laynie Browne’s daily sonnets<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/straight-path-gone-astray-poemtalk-64">PT#64</a>: Bergvall chants Dante translations<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/day-pours-out-space-poemtalk-65">PT#65</a>: Lisa Robertson on the weather<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/deep-hearts-core-sound-poemtalk-66">PT#66</a>: W. B. Yeats longs for Ireland<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/girl-head-mostly-eyes-poemtalk-67">PT#67</a>: Catherine Wagner’s fucking poem<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/perhaps-new-optimism-poemtalk-68">PT#68</a>: Ray DiPalma’s languagy optimism<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/fierce-storehouses-articulation-poemtalk-69">PT#69</a>: Rachel Blau DuPlessis’s <em>Drafts<br /></em><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/convergence-war-and-wedding-poemtalk-70">PT#70</a>: Laura Mullen on wars and weddings<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/constrained-honor-poemtalk-71">PT#71</a>: Claude McKay’s political sonnet<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/gone-word-word-poemtalk-72">PT#72</a>: Bob Cobbing sound poem <br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/it-over-already-poemtalk-73">PT#73</a>: Steve Benson improvises questions<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/word-poemtalk-74" target="_blank">PT#74</a>: Basil Bunting performs Whitman<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/strange-galvanics-poemtalk-75" target="_blank">PT#75</a>: Will Alexander’s galvanics<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/im-coming-poemtalk-76" target="_blank">PT#76</a>: Anne Waldman vs. Jesse Helms<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/my-other-country-poemtalk-77" target="_blank">PT#77</a>: Lorine Niedecker, home and country<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/how-can-they-write-and-believe-poemtalk-78" target="_blank">PT#78</a>: Muriel Rukeyser teaches in East Harlem<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/revolutionary-vibe-poemtalk-79" target="_blank">PT#79</a>: Joanne Kyger’s revolutionary notes<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/fail-better-and-revolt-poemtalk-80" target="_blank">PT#80</a>: Tom Leonard does Shelley in voices<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/deep-descent-poemtalk-81" target="_blank">PT#81</a>: Fanny Howe’s deep descent<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/remote-yet-present-poemtalk-82" target="_blank">PT#82</a>: Carl Rakosi and what makes the poetic “I”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/there-it-was-poemtalk-83" target="_blank">PT#83</a>: Wallace Stevens climbs a mountain poem<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/i-hieroglyph-poemtalk-84" target="_blank">PT#84</a>: H.D. rewrites the story of Helen<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/day-any-other-poemtalk-85" target="_blank">PT#85</a>: James Schuyler’s New York February<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/signature-public-poemtalk-86" target="_blank">PT#86</a>: Tyrone Williams’s eshuneutics<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/amplitude-and-awe-poemtalk-87" target="_blank">PT#87</a>: Emily Dickinson reckons requirements<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/me-no-one-will-take-poemtalk-88" target="_blank">PT#88</a>: Kathy Acker’s punk translations<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/requiem-so-sweet-we-forgot-what-it-lamented-poemtalk-89" target="_blank">PT#89</a>: Nathaniel Mackey on survival<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/fuck-you-bow-poemtalk-90" target="_blank">PT#90</a>: Gertrude Stein and her brother(s)<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/body-pain-poemtalk-91" target="_blank">PT#91</a>: Gil Ott and the invisible wound<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/abductee-theory-poemtalk-92" target="_blank">PT#92</a>: Bob Perelman’s confession<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/dreams-not-spoiled-roaches-poemtalk-93" target="_blank">PT#93</a>: Helen Adam’s witchy ballad<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/no-spell-broken-poemtalk-94-0" target="_blank">PT#94</a>: CA Conrad’s somatic poetry<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/i-too-received-identity-poemtalk-95">PT#95</a>: Rob Fitterman’s “Sprawl”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/laurel-crown-poemtalk-96">PT#96</a>: Allen Grossman in the synagogue<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/articulate-beyond-walls-poemtalk-97">PT#97</a>: Larry Eigner’s unyielding rock<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/weakness-stalks-pride-poemtalk-98">PT#98</a>: James Weldon Johnson’s onward feet<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/unabettable-bleak-poemtalk-99">PT#99</a>: William Bronk, poet of bleakness<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/poemtalk-retrospective-poemtalk-100">PT#100</a>: A PoemTalk retrospective<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/what-geometry-poemtalk-101">PT#101</a>: Ed Dorn’s ’60s political synthesis<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/minds-not-right-poemtalk-102" title="PoemTalk 102">PT#102</a>: Robert Lowell in the off-season<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/swear-it-closed-poemtalk-103" title="PoemTalk 103">PT#103</a>: Simone White and the ferocity of dispersal<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/explode-small-change-poemtalk-104" title="PoemTalk 104">PT#104</a>: Akilah Oliver’s flesh memory<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/no-truths-self-evident-poemtalk-105" title="PoemTalk 105">PT#105</a>: Michael Magee walks Philadelphia<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/dear-conflicted-reader-poemtalk-106" title="PoemTalk 106">PT#106</a>: C. D. Wright on mass incarceration<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/it-time-poemtalk-107" title="PoemTalk 107">PT#107</a>: Paul Celan declares that it’s time<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/too-beautiful-poemtalk-108" title="PoemTalk 108">PT#108</a>: Tracie Morris radicalizes the voice<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/i-mean-only-means-poemtalk-109" title="PoemTalk 109">PT#109</a>: Kate Colby’s long poem on meaning<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/rearrange-world-poemtalk-110">PT#110</a>: Philip Whalen in Bolinas<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/rise-and-live-poemtalk-111">PT#111</a>: Naomi Replansky’s metrical radicalism<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/listen-everything-you-love-disappear-poemtalk-112">PT#112</a>: Patrick Rosal’s “Instance of an Island”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/truth-flies-poemtalk-113">PT#113</a>: Robin Blaser’s “A Bird in the House”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/dead-me-poemtalk-114">PT#114</a>: Claudia Rankine’s “Don’t Let Me Be Lonely”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/hands-reach-poemtalk-115">PT#115</a>: Lorenzo Thomas’s “An Arc Still Open”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/images-mon-ami-poemtalk-116">PT#116</a>: Ann Tardos’s “Uxudo”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/dark-containers-poemtalk-117">PT#117</a>: Larissa Lai’s “Nascent Fashion”<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/question-therefore-age-poemtalk-118">PT#118</a>: M. Nourbese Philip’s “Zong!”<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/nothing-say-poemtalk-119">PT#119</a>: Fatemah Shams and the wars of Iran<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/world-without-sequence-poemtalk-120">PT#120</a>: Ann Lauterbach’s complex dream<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/corner-diaspora-poemtalk-121">PT#121</a>: Jerome Rothenberg sings <em>Poland/1931</em><br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/insurrection-value-poemtalk-122">PT#122</a>: Sean Bonney’s happiness (in London)<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/bugging-circles-poemtalk-123">PT#123</a>: A David Antin talk-poem about war<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/our-endless-ear-poemtalk-124">PT#124</a>: Jack Kerouac’s experimental poetry<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/fallout-cooling-poemtalk-125">PT#125</a>: Erica Baum’s ‘Dog Ear’<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/something-way-poemtalk-126">PT#126</a>: A live PoemTalk on Baraka<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/boring-different-way-poemtalk-127">PT#127</a>: Ashbery’s short answer<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/beautiful-tangents-poemtalk-128">PT#128</a>: Sueyeun Juliette Lee’s “perfect villagers” series<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/after-hell-poemtalk-129">PT#129</a>: Sylvia Plath’s “The Stones”<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/not-detainable-poemtalk-130">PT#130</a>: Gwendolyn Brooks’s “Riot”<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/filter-impose-trespass-poemtalk-131">PT#131</a>: Syd Zolf’s Markov Chain text<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/light-filtering-through-poemtalk-132">PT#132</a>: Maria Hindmarch on Vancouver’s poetry scene<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/flesh-ekes-ink-poemtalk-133">PT#133</a>: Divya Victor on Whitman’s colonial extraction<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/slowing-rate-perception-poemtalk-134">PT#134</a>: Berssenbrugge greets the roses<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/hadbeen-variety-poemtalk-135">PT#135</a>: Cage's writing through James Joyce<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/saw-lie-poemtalk-136">PT#136</a>: Nasser Hussain writes with airport codes<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/laying-poems-away-poemtalk-137">PT#137</a>: psychiatrists talk about Anne Sexton<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/written-water-poemtalk-138">PT#138</a>: Maggie Nelson’s “Bluets”<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/worker-tanka-poemtalk-139">PT#139</a>: poems from the Worker Writers School<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/republic-space-poemtalk-140">PT#140</a>: Barbara Guest ascends the blue stairs<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/september-1941-poemtalk-141">PT#141</a>: Rosmarie Waldrop remembers Nazi Germany<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/these-squiggles-poemtalk-142">PT#142</a>: an early Charles Bernstein poem<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/beside-mind-poemtalk-143">PT#143</a>: Hannah Weiner’s “Clairvoyant Journal”<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/mammal-patriot-poemtalk-144">PT#144</a>: Michael McClure’s “Ghost Tantras”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/knots-woman-poemtalk-145">PT #145</a>: Tonya Foster’s <em>A Swarm of Bees in High Court<br /></em><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/gaps-i-mean-poemtalk-146">PT #146</a>: Robert Frost’s “Mending Wall”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/begin-awaken-poemtalk-147">PT #147</a>: “By the road to the contagious hospital”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/word-me-poemtalk-148">PT #148</a>: Erica Hunt’s “Should You Find Me”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/find-me-rage-poemtalk-149">PT #149</a>: Kamau Brathwaite’s “Negus”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/ominous-pre-tingling-poemtalk-150">PT #150</a>: Two Terrance Hayes poems<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/thats-right-poemtalk-151">PT #151</a>: Two Eileen Myles poems<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/word-word-poemtalk-152">PT #152</a>: “The Poem That Took the Place of a Mountain”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/rousing-earth-excel-poemtalk-153">PT #153</a>: Daphne Marlatt’s “Arriving”<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/promise-go-poemtalk-154">PT#154</a>: Liz Willis & her great flower<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/passion-shields-its-servants-poemtalk-155">PT#155</a>: Lorenzo Thomas on passion & race<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/damned-fruitflies-poemtalk-156">PT#156</a>: Steve Dalachinsky remembers Brooklyn<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/way-haunt-me-poemtalk-157">PT #157</a>: Kevin Killian’s “Is It All over My Face?”<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/little-string-and-sharp-stone-pt-158">PT #158</a>: Bob Kaufman’s “Suicide”<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/adore-adore-poemtalk-159">PT #159</a>: bpNichol’s small songs<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/biologically-speaking-poemtalk-160">PT #160</a>: Sonnets from Edna St. Vincent Millay<br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/unwitting-monument-poemtalk-161">PT #161</a>: Sarah Dowling’s <em>Entering Sappho</em><br /><a href="http://jacket2.org/podcasts/my-rotting-place-poemtalk-162">PT #162</a>: Tuli Kupferberg’s verse<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/perilous-bodies-poemtalk-163">PT #163</a>: Daphne Marlatt, “Steveston, B.C.”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/words-label-space-poemtalk-164">PT #164</a>: Scalapino’s “‘Can’t’ is ‘Night’”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/punch-fascists-poemtalk-165">PT #165</a>: Punch fascists<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/coup-created-our-thoughts-poemtalk-166">PT #166</a>: Cecilia Vicuña in performance<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/must-it-ring-true-poemtalk-167">PT #167</a>: Myung Mi Kim’s “And Sing We”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/hot-and-cold-poemtalk-168">PT #168</a>: Jayne Cortez’s “She Got He Got”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/far-toward-far-end-poemtalk-169">PT #169</a>: George Quasha’s preverbs<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/better-lose-and-win-poemtalk-170">PT #170</a>: di Prima’s “Revolutionary Letters”<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/teach-us-love-poemtalk-171">PT #171</a>: Two poems from Eugene Ostashevsky<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/trance-language-poemtalk-172">PT #172</a>: Harryette Mullen & her dictionary<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/when-name-falls-face-poemtalk-173">PT #173</a>: Divya Victor on anti-Asian violence<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/girls-supply-chain-poemtalk-174">PT #174</a>: Sawako Nakayasu's girls on the run<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/composition-life-life-poemtalk-175">PT #175</a>: Joan Retallack's poethical wager<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/touch-love-then-explain-poemtalk-176">PT #176</a>: cruising John Ashbery's early poem<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/paw-mouthings-poemtalk-177">PT #177</a>: Maggie O'Sullivan paw mouthings<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/downgraded-scribble-poemtalk-178">PT #178</a>: Matvei Yankelevich's "Dear Winter"<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/untranslatable-poemtalk-179">PT #179</a>: Armand Schwerner's tablet<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/nothing-made-ink-poemtalk-180">PT #180</a>: Lisa Fishman in Chicago<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/rhetorical-happenings-poemtalk-181">PT #181</a>: Hoa Nguyen's "Long Light"<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/woot-century-poemtalk-182">PT #182</a>: Doug Kearney's sounded art<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/present-plans-succeed-poemtalk-183">PT #183</a>: Dodie Bellamy's "Vomit Journal"<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/whole-world-smiles-poemtalk-184">PT #184</a>: John Giorno's sound art<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/dont-refuse-breathe-poemtalk-185">PT #185</a>: Frank O'Hara's dirty songs<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/dots-move-out-poemtalk-186">PT #186</a>: Tina Darragh's wire boxes<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/bray-brassily-poemtalk-187">PT #187</a>: Mina Loy's love songs<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/goon-ictus-poemtalk-188">PT #188</a>: Ted Pearson's catenary odes<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/humming-vacancy-poemtalk-189">PT #189</a>: Gregory Corso in Europe<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/watches-dont-shoot-poemtalk-190">PT #190</a>: Aldon Nielsen's "Tray"<br /><a href="https://jacket2.org/podcasts/fracas-hinterlands-poemtalk-191">PT #191</a>: Kenward Elmslie sings<br /><a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/podcasts/PoemTalk/PoemTalk-192_On-Dodsons-Sorrow-and-Finally-lady.mp3">PT #192</a>: Owen Dodson's "For Billie Holiday"<br /><a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/podcasts/PoemTalk/PoemTalk-193_On-Ariana-Raines-To-the-Reader.mp3">PT #193</a>: Ariana Reines' "To the Reader"<br /><a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/podcasts/PoemTalk/PoemTalk-194_On-Veronica-Forrest-Thomsons-SZ-and-Lemon-and-Rosemary.mp3">PT #194</a>: Veronica Forrest-Thomson's “S/Z”<br /><a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/podcasts/PoemTalk/PoemTalk-195_On-Ron-Padgetts-The-Austrian-Maiden-and-Joe-Brainards-Painting-Bingo.mp3">PT #195</a>: Ron Padgett's “The Austrian Maiden” <br /><a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/podcasts/PoemTalk/PoemTalk-196_On-Hart-Cranes-The-Harbor-Dawn.mp3">PT #196</a>: Hart Crane’s “The Harbor Dawn”<br /><a href="https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/podcasts/PoemTalk/PoemTalk-197_On-Marjorie-Welishs-Begetting-Textile.mp3">PT #197</a>: Marjorie Welish's “Begetting Textile”</p> <p><img src="https://jacket2.org/system/files/commentary-images/PoemTalk%20on%20Erica%20Hunt_0.jpg" alt="" title="PoemTalk on Erica Hunt" width="300" height="225" /><em>The recording of <a href="https://jacket2.org/poemtalk/paddling-ladders-poemtalk-11">PoemTalk #11</a> on Erica Hunt’s “The Voice of No.” Clockwise from left: Julia Bloch, our editor Steve McLaughlin, Elizabeth Willis, Al Filreis, and Jessica Lowenthal.</em><br /></p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <!-- /.view --> </div> </div> <!-- /.block --> </div> <!-- /.region --> <h2>Tags</h2><div class="view view-podcasts-section-series view-id-podcasts_section_series view-display-id-block_11 view-dom-id-3 view-podcasts-section-series view-id-podcasts_section_series view-display-id-block_11 view-dom-id-3"> <div class="view-content"> <div class="views-row 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