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The result of the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_17#Template:Systems_of_government" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 November 17">discussion</a></b> was "<b>already merged</b>".</td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Untitled-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z-Untitled"],"text":"Untitled","linkableTitle":"Untitled"}--><h2 id="Untitled" data-mw-thread-id="h-Untitled-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Untitled-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z"></span>Untitled<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Untitled-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Systems_of_government&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Untitled"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Untitled-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z-Untitled"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Closed_Limelike_Curves-20240809051800-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z","timestamp":"20240809051800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Untitled-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z-Untitled"],"text":"Untitled","linkableTitle":"Untitled"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z-Untitled"></span>I'm colourblind, and some of these colours look identical to me, at least on my mobile device. The colours that look similar are: </p> <ul><li>**Presidential republics with a full presidential system** looks very similar to **Constitutional monarchies which have a separate head of government but where royalty still hold significant executive and/or legislative power""</li> <li>**Parliamentary republics with an executive presidency responsible to the legislature**, **Parliamentary republics with a ceremonial/non-executive president, where a separate head of government leads the executive** and **Countries in which constitutional provisions for government have been suspended (e.g. military dictatorship)** all look very similar.</li></ul> <p>Could the colours possibly be changed to make it easier for colourblind people to tell them apart? <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Sandstein" title="User:Sandstein"><span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;"><b> J.Gowers </b></span></a></span></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z-Untitled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 21 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z-Untitled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z","author":"Sandstein","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z-Untitled","replies":["c-Svito3-20240412032500-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z","c-Closed_Limelike_Curves-20240809051800-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z"],"displayName":"J.Gowers"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z-Untitled"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Svito3-20240412032500-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Forms_of_government_(color_blind_palette).svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Forms_of_government_%28color_blind_palette%29.svg/370px-Forms_of_government_%28color_blind_palette%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="370" height="188" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Forms_of_government_%28color_blind_palette%29.svg/555px-Forms_of_government_%28color_blind_palette%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Forms_of_government_%28color_blind_palette%29.svg/740px-Forms_of_government_%28color_blind_palette%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="2754" data-file-height="1398"/></a><figcaption><a href="/wiki/List_of_countries_by_system_of_government" title="List of countries by system of government">List of countries by system of government</a>: <hr/> <a href="/wiki/Parliamentary_system" title="Parliamentary system">Parliamentary systems</a>: Head of government is elected or nominated by and accountable to the legislature <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r981673959">.mw-parser-output .legend{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .legend-color{display:inline-block;min-width:1.25em;height:1.25em;line-height:1.25;margin:1px 0;text-align:center;border:1px solid black;background-color:transparent;color:black}.mw-parser-output .legend-text{}</style><div class="legend"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#da2222; color:white;"> </span> <a href="/wiki/Constitutional_monarchy" title="Constitutional monarchy">Constitutional monarchy</a> with a ceremonial monarch</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><div class="legend"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#f1932d; color:black;"> </span> <a href="/wiki/Parliamentary_republic" title="Parliamentary republic">Parliamentary republic</a></div> <hr/> Hybrid systems: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><div class="legend"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#f7f056; color:black;"> </span> <a href="/wiki/List_of_countries_by_system_of_government#Assembly-independent_republics" title="List of countries by system of government">Assembly-independent republic</a>: Head of government (president or directory) is elected by the legislature, but is not accountable to it</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><div class="legend"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#7bafde; color:black;"> </span> <a href="/wiki/Semi-presidential_republic" title="Semi-presidential republic">Semi-presidential republic</a>: Executive president is independent of the legislature; head of government is appointed by the president and is accountable to the legislature</div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><div class="legend"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#1965b0; color:white;"> </span> <a href="/wiki/Presidential_system" title="Presidential system">Presidential system</a>: Head of government (president) is popularly elected and independent of the legislature</div> <hr/> Undemocratic systems: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><div class="legend"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#ae76a3; color:black;"> </span> <a href="/wiki/Constitutional_monarchy" title="Constitutional monarchy">Semi-constitutional monarchy</a>: Monarch holds significant executive or legislative power</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><div class="legend"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#882e72; color:white;"> </span> <a href="/wiki/Absolute_monarchy" title="Absolute monarchy">Absolute monarchy</a>: Monarch has unlimited power</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><div class="legend"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#72190e; color:white;"> </span> <a href="/wiki/One-party_state" title="One-party state">One-party state</a>: Power is constitutionally linked to a single political party</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><div class="legend"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#4eb265; color:black;"> </span> <a href="/wiki/Military_junta" title="Military junta">Military junta</a>: Committee of military leaders controls the government; constitutional provisions are suspended</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><div class="legend"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#777777; color:black;"> </span> <a href="/wiki/Provisional_government" title="Provisional government">Provisional government</a>: No constitutionally defined basis to current regime</div></figcaption></figure></dd> <dd>I tried making color blind version, you can see on the right.</dd> <dd>Pallete that was used is <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://personal.sron.nl/~pault/#fig:scheme_rainbow_discrete_all">https://personal.sron.nl/~pault/#fig:scheme_rainbow_discrete_all</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Svito3" title="User:Svito3">Svito3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Svito3" title="User talk:Svito3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Svito3-20240412032500-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:25, 12 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Svito3-20240412032500-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240412032500","author":"Svito3","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Svito3-20240412032500-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Svito3-20240412032500-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Closed_Limelike_Curves-20240809051800-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z"></span>I'm <i>not</i> colorblind and some of these colors look nearly-identical to me. I think this has more to do with there being too many forms of government on this map. For example, it looks to me like "Provisional government" and "No government" should be merged into something like a "no data" category. <a href="/wiki/User:Closed_Limelike_Curves" title="User:Closed Limelike Curves">Closed Limelike Curves</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Closed_Limelike_Curves" title="User talk:Closed Limelike Curves">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Closed_Limelike_Curves-20240809051800-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:18, 9 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Closed_Limelike_Curves-20240809051800-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240809051800","author":"Closed Limelike Curves","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Closed_Limelike_Curves-20240809051800-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Closed_Limelike_Curves-20240809051800-Sandstein-2017-04-21T19:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Constitutional_Monarchy\"-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z-\"Constitutional_Monarchy\""],"text":"\"Constitutional Monarchy\"","linkableTitle":"\"Constitutional Monarchy\""}--><h2 id=""Constitutional_Monarchy"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Constitutional_Monarchy"-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z"><span id=".22Constitutional_Monarchy.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Constitutional_Monarchy"-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z"></span>"Constitutional Monarchy"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Constitutional_Monarchy"-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Systems_of_government&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: "Constitutional Monarchy""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Constitutional_Monarchy\"-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z-\"Constitutional_Monarchy\""]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T07:36:00.000Z-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-07-10T07:36:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Constitutional_Monarchy\"-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z-\"Constitutional_Monarchy\""],"text":"\"Constitutional Monarchy\"","linkableTitle":"\"Constitutional Monarchy\""}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z-"Constitutional_Monarchy""></span>This seems like an oversimplification. Under the ceremonial monarch, there could be any system of government actually running the country. Not sure what to do about it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Quequotion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Quequotion (page does not exist)">Quequotion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Quequotion" title="User talk:Quequotion">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z-"Constitutional_Monarchy"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:33, 12 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z-"Constitutional_Monarchy""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T07:36:00.000Z-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:36, 10 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T07:36:00.000Z-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-10T07:36:00.000Z","author":"Nsae Comp","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T07:36:00.000Z-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T07:36:00.000Z-Quequotion-2019-12-12T03:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-One-party_states_as_republics?-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?","c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:26:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?"],"text":"One-party states as republics?","linkableTitle":"One-party states as republics?"}--><h2 id="One-party_states_as_republics?" data-mw-thread-id="h-One-party_states_as_republics?-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z"><span id="One-party_states_as_republics.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-One-party_states_as_republics?-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z"></span>One-party states as republics?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-One-party_states_as_republics?-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-One-party_states_as_republics?-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?","c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:26:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?"],"text":"One-party states as republics?","linkableTitle":"One-party states as republics?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?"></span>Hi, I understand why one-party states are seperate, but technically a party-state is (probably allways) a republic. Shall we point towards this in brackets or put it with the republics? I am reluctant to put it under republics, because then you might as well put constitutional or semi-constitutional monarchies. So ill start the discussion by adding in brackets "by constitution republican". <a href="/wiki/User:Nsae_Comp" title="User:Nsae Comp">Nsae Comp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nsae_Comp" title="User talk:Nsae Comp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 10 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z","author":"Nsae Comp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:03:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:26:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?"></span>Correction:"in principle republics"; they are not necessarily republican, even if afterall republics, because republican implies an ideology and just being a republic is due to its res publica dimension as public-party state. And also not necessarily by constitution <a href="/wiki/User:Nsae_Comp" title="User:Nsae Comp">Nsae Comp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nsae_Comp" title="User talk:Nsae Comp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:26:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 10 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:26:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-10T08:26:00.000Z","author":"Nsae Comp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:26:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T08:26:00.000Z-One-party_states_as_republics?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature","c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T11:42:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature"],"text":"(Parliamentary?) Republics with presidents elected by legislature","linkableTitle":"(Parliamentary?) Republics with presidents elected by legislature"}--><h2 id="(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z"><span id=".28Parliamentary.3F.29_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z"></span>(Parliamentary?) Republics with presidents elected by legislature<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Systems_of_government&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: (Parliamentary?) Republics with presidents elected by legislature"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature","c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T11:42:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T11:42:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature","timestamp":"2020-07-11T11:42:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature","c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T11:42:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature"],"text":"(Parliamentary?) Republics with presidents elected by legislature","linkableTitle":"(Parliamentary?) Republics with presidents elected by legislature"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature"></span>Well in short I think that this template is the wrong place to discuss if this type of republic is parliamentary or something else. </p><p>I think this discussion should first take place in the parliamentary republic article, since it is listed and included there. If it is seperated or listed as republic, only then would I change it here away and have for example only "Republic with ...". </p><p>Besides these countries are described as parliamentary republics in their articles, for example south africa. </p><p>Last but not least, if they are less parliamentary, then they should be semi-presidential, as such maybe the category should be dissolved and seperated out between parliamentary and semi-presidential. But I am not a fan of this, because i like the depth this category provides. <a href="/wiki/User:Nsae_Comp" title="User:Nsae Comp">Nsae Comp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nsae_Comp" title="User talk:Nsae Comp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:55, 10 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z","author":"Nsae Comp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature","replies":["c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z"></span>South Africa is a parliamentary republic with an executive presidency, as their president <b>is</b> subject to parliamentary confidence. Semi-presidential is a category that only applies if there is both a directly elected president that is not subject to parliamentary confidence and a prime minister that is dependent on parliamentary confidence and serves as head of government. This is not the case for these countries. At <a href="/wiki/List_of_countries_by_system_of_government" title="List of countries by system of government">list of countries by system of government</a> we've clearly distinguished between <a href="/wiki/List_of_countries_by_system_of_government#Assembly-independent_republican_systems" title="List of countries by system of government">assembly-independent systems</a> like Suriname and <a href="/wiki/Parliamentary_republic_with_an_executive_presidency" class="mw-redirect" title="Parliamentary republic with an executive presidency">parliamentary republics with an executive presidency</a> like Botswana and South Africa. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fuse809&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fuse809 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:green"><b>Fuse809</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fuse809" title="Special:Contributions/Fuse809">contribs</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Fuse809" title="Special:EmailUser/Fuse809">email</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fuse809" title="User talk:Fuse809">talk</a> · <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Fuse809" class="extiw" title="commons:Special:ListFiles/Fuse809">uploads</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:16, 11 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z","author":"Fuse809","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-10T23:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the reply. I just wanted to make a point mentioning semi-presidential systems and as said I do not find it a fitting solution. But my argument stays unanswered: before "(Parliamentary?) Republics with executive elected by legislature" is discussed and changed here, it should be discussed and differentiated at the more public specific article (since templates are not that frequented). Besides the list you mention also uses "Parliamentary Republic" for the green case. <a href="/wiki/User:Nsae_Comp" title="User:Nsae Comp">Nsae Comp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nsae_Comp" title="User talk:Nsae Comp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 11 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z","author":"Nsae Comp","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T04:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z"></span>Largely because there's no decent alternative general category to put them under. But, I agree it would be best to debate this at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Parliamentary_republic" title="Talk:Parliamentary republic">Talk:parliamentary republic</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fuse809&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fuse809 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:green"><b>Fuse809</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fuse809" title="Special:Contributions/Fuse809">contribs</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Fuse809" title="Special:EmailUser/Fuse809">email</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fuse809" title="User talk:Fuse809">talk</a> · <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Fuse809" class="extiw" title="commons:Special:ListFiles/Fuse809">uploads</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 11 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z","author":"Fuse809","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T08:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z"></span>I looked now closer at this "assembly-independent systems" category, and find it interesting. But if the whole problem is that there is one category on the map, but two in the articles afterall, then I would take the articles allready established distinction and call the category not "Republic..." but both "Parliamentary republics with elected president by legislature OR assembly-independent ...". Afterll using just "Republic" is misleading since it is not the quintessential republic. <a href="/wiki/User:Nsae_Comp" title="User:Nsae Comp">Nsae Comp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nsae_Comp" title="User talk:Nsae Comp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:11, 11 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z","author":"Nsae Comp","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T09:29:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z-Fuse809-2020-07-11T08:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T09:29:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z"></span>I've started a discussion over at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Parliamentary_republic#What_falls_under_this_category_and_what_doesn't?" title="Talk:Parliamentary republic">Talk:Parliamentary republic#What falls under this category and what doesn't?</a> about this, so let's continue it over there. There's a third OR missing in that proposed caption, OR directorial republic. I wouldn't opposed that change to the caption. Just so long as we don't categorically class them as parliamentary republics, ignoring the definition in the very article we'd be linking to. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fuse809&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fuse809 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:green"><b>Fuse809</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fuse809" title="Special:Contributions/Fuse809">contribs</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Fuse809" title="Special:EmailUser/Fuse809">email</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fuse809" title="User talk:Fuse809">talk</a> · <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Fuse809" class="extiw" title="commons:Special:ListFiles/Fuse809">uploads</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T09:29:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:29, 11 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T09:29:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-11T09:29:00.000Z","author":"Fuse809","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T09:29:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fuse809-2020-07-11T09:29:00.000Z-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T09:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T11:42:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature"></span>Thanks. See you there. <a href="/wiki/User:Nsae_Comp" title="User:Nsae Comp">Nsae Comp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nsae_Comp" title="User talk:Nsae Comp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T11:42:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:42, 11 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T11:42:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-11T11:42:00.000Z","author":"Nsae Comp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T11:42:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nsae_Comp-2020-07-11T11:42:00.000Z-(Parliamentary?)_Republics_with_presidents_elected_by_legislature"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-HudecEmil-20231119100900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Merge-20231119100900","replies":["c-HudecEmil-20231119100900-Merge"],"text":"Merge","linkableTitle":"Merge"}--><h2 id="Merge" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge-20231119100900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge-20231119100900"></span>Merge<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge-20231119100900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Systems_of_government&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Merge"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-HudecEmil-20231119100900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Merge-20231119100900","replies":["c-HudecEmil-20231119100900-Merge"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-HudecEmil-20231119100900-Merge","timestamp":"20231119100900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-HudecEmil-20231119100900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Merge-20231119100900","replies":["c-HudecEmil-20231119100900-Merge"],"text":"Merge","linkableTitle":"Merge"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HudecEmil-20231119100900-Merge"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Merge-arrows.svg/50px-Merge-arrows.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Merge-arrows.svg/75px-Merge-arrows.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Merge-arrows.svg/100px-Merge-arrows.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="50" data-file-height="20"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This template was nominated for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Merging" title="Wikipedia:Merging">merging</a> with <a href="/wiki/Template:Forms_of_government_map" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Forms of government map">Template:Forms of government map</a> on 17 November 2023. The result of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_17#Template:Forms_of_government_map" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 November 17">the discussion</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_17">permanent link</a>) was <b>to merge</b>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:HudecEmil" title="User:HudecEmil">HudecEmil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HudecEmil" title="User talk:HudecEmil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-HudecEmil-20231119100900-Merge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HudecEmil-20231119100900-Merge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231119100900","author":"HudecEmil","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HudecEmil-20231119100900-Merge","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HudecEmil-20231119100900-Merge"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ProloSozz-20240620101100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic-20240620101100","replies":["c-ProloSozz-20240620101100-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic","c-Svito3-20240622000300-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic"],"text":"Colors have to be in a structural systematic","linkableTitle":"Colors have to be in a structural systematic"}--><h2 id="Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic" data-mw-thread-id="h-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic-20240620101100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic-20240620101100"></span>Colors have to be in a structural systematic<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic-20240620101100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Systems_of_government&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Colors have to be in a structural systematic"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ProloSozz-20240620101100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic-20240620101100","replies":["c-ProloSozz-20240620101100-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic","c-Svito3-20240622000300-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Svito3-20240622000300-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic","timestamp":"20240622000300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ProloSozz-20240620101100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic-20240620101100","replies":["c-ProloSozz-20240620101100-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic","c-Svito3-20240622000300-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic"],"text":"Colors have to be in a structural systematic","linkableTitle":"Colors have to be in a structural systematic"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ProloSozz-20240620101100-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic"></span>The colors need to have a certain relation to each other by category </p> <ul><li>either: all parliamentary systems fo the same color, but in different tones – same for presidential systems, monarchy etc.)</li> <li>or: parliament or presidential power has to be of the same color, but in different tones (dark for monarchy, mid for presidential republic, clear for republic etc.)</li></ul> <p>The main tone of the group has to be in the same base color. If not the map is not giving an overview that the eye can easily group what is the main aspect of this map. --<a href="/wiki/User:ProloSozz" title="User:ProloSozz">ProloSozz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ProloSozz" title="User talk:ProloSozz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-ProloSozz-20240620101100-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ProloSozz-20240620101100-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240620101100","author":"ProloSozz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ProloSozz-20240620101100-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic","replies":["c-Svito3-20240620142900-ProloSozz-20240620101100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ProloSozz-20240620101100-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Svito3-20240620142900-ProloSozz-20240620101100"></span>Please see your own discussion on <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Forms_of_government.svg#Color_Changes" class="extiw" title="commons:File talk:Forms of government.svg">Commons:File talk:Forms_of_government.svg#Color Changes</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Svito3" title="User:Svito3">Svito3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Svito3" title="User talk:Svito3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Svito3-20240620142900-ProloSozz-20240620101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:29, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Svito3-20240620142900-ProloSozz-20240620101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240620142900","author":"Svito3","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Svito3-20240620142900-ProloSozz-20240620101100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Svito3-20240620142900-ProloSozz-20240620101100"></span></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Svito3-20240622000300-Colors_have_to_be_in_a_structural_systematic"></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Systems_of_government_legend_Euler_diagram.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Systems_of_government_legend_Euler_diagram.svg/220px-Systems_of_government_legend_Euler_diagram.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="400" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Systems_of_government_legend_Euler_diagram.svg/330px-Systems_of_government_legend_Euler_diagram.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Systems_of_government_legend_Euler_diagram.svg/440px-Systems_of_government_legend_Euler_diagram.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="220" data-file-height="400"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Swapping green and cyan colors is pointless. I think swapping yellow and green, and green and cyan makes more sense if using your reasoning. I haven't done it because it's a breaking change compared to adding distinction between green and cyan, they were both previously just green. Also having <i>assembly-independent republics</i> as green closer to yellow is fine with me, as those systems differ in one feature, accountability of the government to parliament. In same way <i>semi-presidential</i> and <i>presidential</i> systems differ in accountability of the government to parliament. I made a handy Euler diagram of the legend to demonstrate, you can see on the right. And the table with fully democratic systems below. </p> <table class="wikitable"> <caption>A typology of executive-legislative systems<sup id="cite_ref-Ganghof_1-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-Ganghof-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </caption> <tbody><tr> <th> </th> <th colspan="3">Does the executive's survival depend on the legislature? </th></tr> <tr> <th>Is the executive (partly or wholly) popularly elected? </th> <th>Wholly </th> <th>Partly </th> <th>No </th></tr> <tr> <th>Yes </th> <td>Prime-ministerial </td> <td><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#66CCEE; color:black;"> </span> Semi-presidential </td> <td><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#3054DE; color:white;"> </span> Presidential </td></tr> <tr> <th>No </th> <td><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#E85252; color:black;"> </span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#FF9B30; color:black;"> </span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#F0E945; color:black;"> </span> Parliamentary </td> <td>Semi-parliamentary </td> <td><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r981673959"><span class="legend-color mw-no-invert" style="background-color:#66BC66; color:black;"> </span> Assembly-independent </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>-- <a href="/wiki/User:Svito3" title="User:Svito3">Svito3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Svito3" title="User talk:Svito3">talk</a>) <a 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Iran"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gibranalnn-20240917062300-"Theocratic_republic"_and_Iran"></span>I think that "Theocratic republic" only applies to Iran so I just edited the template to reflect this. <a href="/wiki/User:Gibranalnn" title="User:Gibranalnn">Gibranalnn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gibranalnn" title="User talk:Gibranalnn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Systems_of_government#c-Gibranalnn-20240917062300-"Theocratic_republic"_and_Iran" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:23, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gibranalnn-20240917062300-"Theocratic_republic"_and_Iran"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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