DeepMind AlphaGeometry: Is AGI just around the corner?

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The article discusses how AlphaGeometry leverages geometric reasoning and neural network architectures to improve problem-solving capabilities, potentially signaling a significant step toward AGI. It highlights the implications of these advancements for various fields and considers the ethical and societal challenges that may arise as AGI approaches reality. </div> <script src="https://www.physicsforums.com/check-for-tex.js" defer></script> <div class="block block--messages" data-xf-init="" data-type="post" data-href="/inline-mod/" data-search-target="*"> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="posts"></span> <div class="block-outer"></div> <div class="block-outer js-threadStatusField"></div> <div class="block-container lbContainer" data-xf-init="lightbox select-to-quote old-new-message-indicator" data-sv-live-content-time-element-selector=".message-attribution-main time.u-dt" data-message-selector=".js-post" data-lb-id="thread-1059404" data-lb-universal="0"> <div class="block-body js-replyNewMessageContainer">  <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="Meow12" data-content="post-6990019" id="js-post-6990019" > <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-6990019"></span> <div class="message-header"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-01-25T10:04:40-0600" data-time="1706198680" data-date-string="Jan 25, 2024" data-time-string="10:04 AM" title="Jan 25, 2024 at 10:04 AM">Jan 25, 2024</time> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <span style="cursor:pointer;" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/6990019/share" aria-label="Share" role="button" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </span> </li> <li> #1 </li> </ul> </header> </div> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" > <div class="message-userDetails"> <span class="message-name"><span class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="742479">Meow12</span></span>   <span class="threadstarter" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Thread Starter"><i class="fal fa-user-edit"></i></span>   </div> <div class="message-userExtras"> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt><i class="fa--xf fal fa-comments fa-fw" aria-hidden="true" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Messages"></i></dt> <dd>45</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt><i class="fa--xf fal fa-thumbs-up fa-fw" aria-hidden="true" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Reaction score"></i></dt> <dd>20</dd> </dl> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-6990019" data-lb-caption-desc="Meow12 · Jan 25, 2024 at 10:04 AM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div class="googleads_fixed"> <script async src="https://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/js/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6580726045122001" crossorigin="anonymous"></script>  <ins class="adsbygoogle" style="display:block" data-ad-client="ca-pub-6580726045122001" data-ad-slot="3049969336" data-ad-format="auto" data-full-width-responsive="true"></ins> <script> (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); </script> </div> <div > <div class="bbWrapper">DeepMind's new geometry problem-solver AlphaGeometry can solve Euclidean plane geometry questions from the International Mathematics Olympiad (IMO) almost as well as a human gold medallist.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/alphageometry-an-olympiad-level-ai-system-for-geometry/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/alphageometry-an-olympiad-level-ai-system-for-geometry/</a><br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06747-5" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06747-5</a><br /> <br /> I guess it's all over now. 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While they are indeed owned by Google (and their technology is used in Google products) I am not aware of any DeepMind results/paper being retracted. Results published under the DeepMind name seems to have a` good track record.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="1" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> <ul class="reactionSummary"> <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> </ul> <span class="u-srOnly">Likes</span> <bdi>Meow12</bdi> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article>  <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="pines-demon" data-content="post-6990037" id="js-post-6990037" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://www.physicsforums.com/posts/6990037/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/deepmind-alphageometry-is-agi-just-around-the-corner.1059404/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-6990037"></span> <div class="message-header"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-01-25T10:45:43-0600" data-time="1706201143" data-date-string="Jan 25, 2024" data-time-string="10:45 AM" title="Jan 25, 2024 at 10:45 AM" itemprop="datePublished">Jan 25, 2024</time> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <span style="cursor:pointer;" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/6990037/share" aria-label="Share" role="button" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </span> </li> <li> #4 </li> </ul> </header> </div> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.physicsforums.com/members/pines-demon.744598/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.physicsforums.com/members/pines-demon.744598/" /> <div class="message-userDetails"> <span class="message-name"><span class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="744598"><span itemprop="name">pines-demon</span></span></span>     </div> <div class="message-userExtras"> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt><i class="fa--xf fal fa-comments fa-fw" aria-hidden="true" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Messages"></i></dt> <dd>560</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt><i class="fa--xf fal fa-thumbs-up fa-fw" aria-hidden="true" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Reaction score"></i></dt> <dd>440</dd> </dl> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-6990037" data-lb-caption-desc="pines-demon · Jan 25, 2024 at 10:45 AM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper">Did they test negatives? What happens when you give it a problem that cannot be proven? Or that can only be verified by numerical evaluation?</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article>  <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="Vanadium 50" data-content="post-6990825" id="js-post-6990825" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://www.physicsforums.com/posts/6990825/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/deepmind-alphageometry-is-agi-just-around-the-corner.1059404/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-6990825"></span> <div class="message-header"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-01-27T12:32:55-0600" data-time="1706380375" data-date-string="Jan 27, 2024" data-time-string="12:32 PM" title="Jan 27, 2024 at 12:32 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Jan 27, 2024</time> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <span style="cursor:pointer;" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/6990825/share" aria-label="Share" role="button" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </span> </li> <li> #5 </li> </ul> </header> </div> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.physicsforums.com/members/vanadium-50.110252/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.physicsforums.com/members/vanadium-50.110252/" /> <div class="message-userDetails"> <span class="message-name"><a href="/members/vanadium-50.110252/" class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="110252" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"><span itemprop="name">Vanadium 50</span></a></span>    <div class="post-badges"> <div class="post-badge badge-shield" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Retired Mentor"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-shield" aria-hidden="true" style="font-size:12px;color:#990033;"></i><span> Staff Emeritus</span> </div> <div class="post-badge badge-university" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Verified Expert in Science and Math"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-university" aria-hidden="true"></i><span> Science Advisor</span> </div> <div class="post-badge badge-book" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Verified Expert in Academia"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-book" aria-hidden="true"></i><span> Education Advisor</span> </div> <div class="post-badge badge-trophy" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="2023 Award Winner"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-trophy" aria-hidden="true"></i><span> 2023 Award</span> </div> </div>  </div> <div class="message-userExtras"> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt><i class="fa--xf fal fa-comments fa-fw" aria-hidden="true" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Messages"></i></dt> <dd>35,005</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt><i class="fa--xf fal fa-thumbs-up fa-fw" aria-hidden="true" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Reaction score"></i></dt> <dd>21,673</dd> </dl> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-6990825" data-lb-caption-desc="Vanadium 50 · Jan 27, 2024 at 12:32 PM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper">Swell. A tool that can answer geometry questions incorrectly. 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A tool that can answer geometry questions incorrectly. Just what we need. </div> </div> </blockquote>It's just that it will certainly come up with a lot of false proofs, it would be nice to have an AI say, "I cannot solve it".</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <div class="message-lastEdit"> Last edited: <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-01-28T11:11:11-0600" data-time="1706461871" data-date-string="Jan 28, 2024" data-time-string="11:11 AM" title="Jan 28, 2024 at 11:11 AM" itemprop="dateModified">Jan 28, 2024</time> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article>  <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="Greg Bernhardt" data-content="post-6993649" id="js-post-6993649" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://www.physicsforums.com/posts/6993649/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/deepmind-alphageometry-is-agi-just-around-the-corner.1059404/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-6993649"></span> <div class="message-header"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-01-28T09:49:49-0600" data-time="1706456989" data-date-string="Jan 28, 2024" data-time-string="9:49 AM" title="Jan 28, 2024 at 9:49 AM" itemprop="datePublished">Jan 28, 2024</time> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <span style="cursor:pointer;" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/6993649/share" aria-label="Share" role="button" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </span> </li> <li> #7 </li> </ul> </header> </div> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.physicsforums.com/members/greg-bernhardt.1/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.physicsforums.com/members/greg-bernhardt.1/" /> <div class="message-userDetails"> <span class="message-name"><a href="/members/greg-bernhardt.1/" class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="1" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"><span class="username--staff username--moderator username--admin" itemprop="name">Greg Bernhardt</span></a></span>    <div class="post-badges"> <div class="post-badge badge-gavel" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Admin"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-gavel" aria-hidden="true"></i><span> Admin</span> </div> <div class="post-badge badge-file" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Click to View My Articles"> <a href="https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/author/Greg Bernhardt/"><i class="fa--xf fal fa-file-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i><span> Insights Author</span></a> </div> </div>  </div> <div class="message-userExtras"> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt><i class="fa--xf fal fa-comments fa-fw" aria-hidden="true" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Messages"></i></dt> <dd>19,559</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt><i class="fa--xf fal fa-thumbs-up fa-fw" aria-hidden="true" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Reaction score"></i></dt> <dd>10,351</dd> </dl> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-6993649" data-lb-caption-desc="Greg Bernhardt · Jan 28, 2024 at 9:49 AM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper">From my understanding, the concept of true AGI is still a bit philosophical when we are still scratching the surface of understanding how the human mind works. There will no doubt be continued miraculous developments in AI, but AGI right now is still just a buzzword.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article>  <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="pines-demon" data-content="post-7025636" id="js-post-7025636" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://www.physicsforums.com/posts/7025636/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope 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AGI just around the corner... </div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Let's discuss this when there will be an AI capable enough to solve 'neighbour problems' without utilizing shotguns.<br /> Math is easy <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=":wink:" title="Wink :wink:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":wink:" /></div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article>  <article class="message 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'neighbour problems' without utilizing shotguns.<br /> Math is easy <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=":wink:" title="Wink :wink:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":wink:" /> </div> </div> </blockquote>We've solved that in the UK. The solution is gun laws.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="1" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> <ul class="reactionSummary"> <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> </ul> <span class="u-srOnly">Likes</span> <bdi>Meow12</bdi> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> <script> if (typeof parseNewPost == 'function') { $(document).ajaxStop(parseNewPost(7030754)); } </script> </div> </div> </div> </article> </div> </div> </div> <h2 style="font-weight:bold;"> FAQ: DeepMind AlphaGeometry: Is AGI just around the corner? </h2> <h2>What is DeepMind AlphaGeometry?</h2><p>DeepMind AlphaGeometry is a research initiative by DeepMind that focuses on advancing the understanding of geometric reasoning and its applications in artificial intelligence. It aims to enhance AI's ability to comprehend and manipulate geometric concepts, which are crucial for various tasks in robotics, computer vision, and other fields.</p><h2>How does AlphaGeometry relate to artificial general intelligence (AGI)?</h2><p>AlphaGeometry is seen as a step towards achieving AGI because it addresses one of the critical components of human-like intelligence: the ability to understand and reason about the physical world. By improving geometric reasoning capabilities, AlphaGeometry may contribute to the development of more sophisticated AI systems that can perform a wider range of tasks with greater flexibility and understanding.</p><h2>Is AGI just around the corner because of AlphaGeometry?</h2><p>While AlphaGeometry represents a significant advancement in AI research, it is not accurate to say that AGI is just around the corner. The journey to AGI involves overcoming numerous technical and theoretical challenges, and while projects like AlphaGeometry contribute valuable insights, there is still much work to be done before achieving true AGI.</p><h2>What are the potential implications of AlphaGeometry for society?</h2><p>The implications of AlphaGeometry for society could be profound, including improvements in automation, enhanced decision-making systems, and advancements in fields like healthcare and transportation. However, it also raises ethical considerations regarding the impact of advanced AI on employment, privacy, and security, necessitating careful consideration and regulation as these technologies develop.</p><h2>What are the main challenges facing the development of AGI?</h2><p>The main challenges facing the development of AGI include understanding and replicating human-like reasoning, emotional intelligence, and common sense knowledge. 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