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BBC Sounds - Ouch – the cabin fever podcast

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srcset="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/80x45/p02wzf2g.jpg 80w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/160x90/p02wzf2g.jpg 160w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/320x180/p02wzf2g.jpg 320w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/480x270/p02wzf2g.jpg 480w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p02wzf2g.jpg 640w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/768x432/p02wzf2g.jpg 768w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/896x504/p02wzf2g.jpg 896w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1008x567/p02wzf2g.jpg 1008w" sizes="(min-width: 80em) 300px, (min-width: 63em) 315px, (min-width: 48em) 33.333333333333vw, (min-width: 37.5em) 50vw, 100vw" alt=""></div> </div></div> </li><li class="grid__item tlec-page-card "> <div class="media box-link gel-long-primer media--column media--card" id="ds-amen-ProgrammePresenter-504568936" data-object-type="clip"> <div class="media__body"> <div class="media__details br-box-secondary" data-eq-pts="actions-nowrap: 240"> <h3 class="media__meta-group"> <a class="box-link__target link--block br-secondary-text-ontext" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p088lfyt" data-bbc-container="brand" data-bbc-title="clip:title"> <span class="media-title"> <span class="media__meta-row gel-pica-bold">Decontaminating our cans of beans one by one</span> </span> </a> </h3> <div class="programme__details media__meta-group"> <p class="text-subtle media__meta-row invisible visible@gel3">“Is it just us who disinfects food deliveries?”</p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="media__panel 1/1"> <div class="media__overlay-container ratiobox"> <img class="image lazyload " data-src="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/320x180/p088lh3z.jpg" data-srcset="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/80x45/p088lh3z.jpg 80w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/160x90/p088lh3z.jpg 160w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/320x180/p088lh3z.jpg 320w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/480x270/p088lh3z.jpg 480w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p088lh3z.jpg 640w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/768x432/p088lh3z.jpg 768w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/896x504/p088lh3z.jpg 896w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1008x567/p088lh3z.jpg 1008w" data-sizes="auto" alt=""><div class="media__overlay media__overlay--bottom" data-eq-pts="medium: 280, large: 400, super: 656"> <div class="icon-link cta cta--dark "> <a data-bbc-container="brand" data-bbc-title="clip:cta" class="link-complex" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p088lfyt" tabindex="-1" aria-hidden="true"> <div class="icon icon-cta icon--listen"> <svg tabindex="-1" aria-hidden="true" focusable="false" class="gelicon gelicon--programme"><use xlink:href="/web/20201027164213im_/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02r6yqw#gelicon--audio-visual--listen"/></svg><span class="icon-label gel-brevier"><span class="invisible">Duration: </span> <span aria-label="19 minutes 22 seconds" class="duration speak-duration">19:22</span> </span></div> </a> </div> </div></div> </div> </div> </li><li class="grid__item tlec-page-card "> <div class="media box-link gel-long-primer media--column media--card" id="ds-amen-ProgrammePresenter-1947718421" data-object-type="clip"> <div class="media__body"> <div class="media__details br-box-secondary" data-eq-pts="actions-nowrap: 240"> <h3 class="media__meta-group"> <a class="box-link__target link--block br-secondary-text-ontext" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07vsy3s" data-bbc-container="brand" data-bbc-title="clip:title"> <span class="media-title"> <span class="media__meta-row gel-pica-bold">Adult women don&#039;t want &#039;Daddy&#039;s little princess&#039; written on their T-shirts</span> </span> </a> </h3> <div class="programme__details media__meta-group"> <p class="text-subtle media__meta-row invisible visible@gel3">Influencer Sinead Burke talks to Ouch about fashion and equality</p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="media__panel 1/1"> <div class="media__overlay-container ratiobox"> <img class="image lazyload " data-src="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/320x180/p07vsyk1.jpg" data-srcset="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/80x45/p07vsyk1.jpg 80w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/160x90/p07vsyk1.jpg 160w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/320x180/p07vsyk1.jpg 320w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/480x270/p07vsyk1.jpg 480w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p07vsyk1.jpg 640w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/768x432/p07vsyk1.jpg 768w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/896x504/p07vsyk1.jpg 896w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1008x567/p07vsyk1.jpg 1008w" data-sizes="auto" alt=""><div class="media__overlay media__overlay--bottom" data-eq-pts="medium: 280, large: 400, super: 656"> <div class="icon-link cta cta--dark "> <a data-bbc-container="brand" data-bbc-title="clip:cta" class="link-complex" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07vsy3s" tabindex="-1" aria-hidden="true"> <div class="icon icon-cta icon--listen"> <svg tabindex="-1" aria-hidden="true" focusable="false" class="gelicon gelicon--programme"><use xlink:href="/web/20201027164213im_/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02r6yqw#gelicon--audio-visual--listen"/></svg><span class="icon-label gel-brevier"><span class="invisible">Duration: </span> <span aria-label="56 minutes 44 seconds" class="duration speak-duration">56:44</span> </span></div> </a> </div> </div></div> </div> </div> </li><li class="grid__item tlec-page-card "> <div class="media box-link gel-long-primer media--column media--card" id="ds-amen-ProgrammePresenter-788543760" data-object-type="clip"> <div class="media__body"> <div class="media__details br-box-secondary" data-eq-pts="actions-nowrap: 240"> <h3 class="media__meta-group"> <a class="box-link__target link--block br-secondary-text-ontext" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07qt0bd" data-bbc-container="brand" data-bbc-title="clip:title"> <span class="media-title"> <span class="media__meta-row gel-pica-bold">‘The optician told me to Google MS’</span> </span> </a> </h3> <div class="programme__details media__meta-group"> <p class="text-subtle media__meta-row invisible visible@gel3">Bella reveals what it&#039;s like to live with MS as a teenager.</p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="media__panel 1/1"> <div class="media__overlay-container ratiobox"> <img class="image lazyload " data-src="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/320x180/p07qt1hj.jpg" data-srcset="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/80x45/p07qt1hj.jpg 80w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/160x90/p07qt1hj.jpg 160w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/320x180/p07qt1hj.jpg 320w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/480x270/p07qt1hj.jpg 480w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p07qt1hj.jpg 640w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/768x432/p07qt1hj.jpg 768w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/896x504/p07qt1hj.jpg 896w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1008x567/p07qt1hj.jpg 1008w" data-sizes="auto" alt=""><div class="media__overlay media__overlay--bottom" data-eq-pts="medium: 280, large: 400, super: 656"> <div class="icon-link cta cta--dark "> <a data-bbc-container="brand" data-bbc-title="clip:cta" class="link-complex" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07qt0bd" tabindex="-1" aria-hidden="true"> <div class="icon icon-cta icon--listen"> <svg tabindex="-1" aria-hidden="true" focusable="false" class="gelicon gelicon--programme"><use xlink:href="/web/20201027164213im_/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02r6yqw#gelicon--audio-visual--listen"/></svg><span class="icon-label gel-brevier"><span class="invisible">Duration: </span> <span aria-label="26 minutes 49 seconds" class="duration speak-duration">26:49</span> </span></div> </a> </div> </div></div> </div> </div> </li><li class="grid__item tlec-page-card grid__item--column"> <div class="media box-link gel-long-primer media--column media--card" id="ds-amen-ProgrammePresenter-819581910" data-object-type="clip"> <div class="media__body"> <div class="media__details br-box-secondary" data-eq-pts="actions-nowrap: 240"> <h3 class="media__meta-group"> <a class="box-link__target link--block br-secondary-text-ontext" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07n3qtv" data-bbc-container="brand" data-bbc-title="clip:title"> <span class="media-title"> <span class="media__meta-row gel-pica-bold">This love story between two comedians with cerebral palsy will melt your heart</span> </span> </a> </h3> <div class="programme__details media__meta-group"> <p class="text-subtle media__meta-row invisible visible@gel3">The best eavesdrop on a conversation you&#039;ll hear all week</p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="media__panel 1/1"> <div class="media__overlay-container ratiobox"> <img class="image lazyload " data-src="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/320x180/p07n3rq8.jpg" data-srcset="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/80x45/p07n3rq8.jpg 80w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/160x90/p07n3rq8.jpg 160w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/320x180/p07n3rq8.jpg 320w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/480x270/p07n3rq8.jpg 480w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p07n3rq8.jpg 640w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/768x432/p07n3rq8.jpg 768w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/896x504/p07n3rq8.jpg 896w, https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213im_/https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1008x567/p07n3rq8.jpg 1008w" data-sizes="auto" alt=""><div class="media__overlay media__overlay--bottom" data-eq-pts="medium: 280, large: 400, super: 656"> <div class="icon-link cta cta--dark "> <a data-bbc-container="brand" data-bbc-title="clip:cta" class="link-complex" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027164213/https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07n3qtv" tabindex="-1" aria-hidden="true"> <div class="icon icon-cta icon--listen"> <svg tabindex="-1" aria-hidden="true" focusable="false" class="gelicon gelicon--programme"><use xlink:href="/web/20201027164213im_/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02r6yqw#gelicon--audio-visual--listen"/></svg><span class="icon-label gel-brevier"><span class="invisible">Duration: </span> <span aria-label="43 minutes 30 seconds" class="duration speak-duration">43:30</span> </span></div> </a> </div> </div></div> </div> </div> <div class="trailing-link br-box-secondary"> <div class="media__footer br-keyline"> <a href="/web/20201027164213/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02r6yqw/clips" class="icon-link link-complex 1/1 gel-pica-bold"> <svg tabindex="-1" aria-hidden="true" focusable="false" class="gelicon gelicon--programme br-secondary-text-ontext"><use xlink:href="/web/20201027164213im_/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02r6yqw#gelicon--media--collection"/></svg> <span class="link-complex__target icon-label--trailing-link">See 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