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Can anyone point me to a paper or book that describes these in some detail?<br /> <br /> Also is there another way to get amplitude&phase?</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <br/> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="flatulent" data-content="post-58279" id="js-post-58279" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/posts/58279/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/threads/phase-detectors-and-envelope-detectors.14355/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-58279"></span> <div class="message-header"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/phase-detectors-and-envelope-detectors.14355/post-58279" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2004-01-19T16:45:38+0000" data-time="1074530738" data-date-string="Jan 19, 2004" data-time-string="4:45 PM" title="Jan 19, 2004 at 4:45 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Jan 19, 2004</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/phase-detectors-and-envelope-detectors.14355/post-58279" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/58279/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/phase-detectors-and-envelope-detectors.14355/post-58279" rel="nofollow"> #2 </a> </li> </ul> </header> </div> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/members/flatulent.3599/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.edaboard.com/members/flatulent.3599/" /> <div class="message-avatar "> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/flatulent.3599/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="3599" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="/data/avatars/m/3/3599.jpg?1591248332" alt="flatulent" class="avatar-u3599-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" /> </a> </div> </div> <div class="message-userDetails"> <h4 class="message-name"><a href="/members/flatulent.3599/" class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="3599" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"><span itemprop="name">flatulent</span></a></h4> <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">Advanced Member level 6</h5> </div> <img src="/styles/images/ranks/hlevel3.gif" alt="Advanced Member level 6"> <div class="message-userExtras"> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified joinedBlock"> <dt>Joined</dt> <dd>Jul 19, 2002</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified pairs--xbBoxed"> <dt>Messages</dt> <dd>4,624</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt> Helped</dt> <dd>489</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt>Reputation </dt> <dd> <a href="/reputation/authors/flatulent.3599" class="fauxBlockLink-linkRow u-concealed">980</a> </dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt>Reaction score</dt> <dd>151</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified pairs--xbBoxed trophyBlock"> <dt>Trophy points</dt> <dd>1,343</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified locationBlock"> <dt>Location</dt> <dd> <a href="/misc/location-info?location=Middle+Earth" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank" class="u-concealed">Middle Earth</a> </dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified creditBlock"> <dt title="Activity points">Activity points</dt> <dd> <a href="/activity/" data-xf-click="overlay" class="fauxBlockLink-blockLink u-concealed"> 46,689 </a> </dd> </dl> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-58279" data-lb-caption-desc="flatulent · Jan 19, 2004 at 4:45 PM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper">You will need a local phase reference to do the angels. QAM is expensive enough to do that you should not economize on the detector method. Using the I and Q coherent detectors and level slicers should be done.<br /> <br /> If you are making a low cost system, OOK or FSK would be cheaper.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <br/> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="alexyscrypki" data-content="post-58293" id="js-post-58293" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/posts/58293/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/threads/phase-detectors-and-envelope-detectors.14355/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-58293"></span> <div class="message-header"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/phase-detectors-and-envelope-detectors.14355/post-58293" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2004-01-19T18:23:13+0000" data-time="1074536593" data-date-string="Jan 19, 2004" data-time-string="6:23 PM" title="Jan 19, 2004 at 6:23 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Jan 19, 2004</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/phase-detectors-and-envelope-detectors.14355/post-58293" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/58293/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/phase-detectors-and-envelope-detectors.14355/post-58293" rel="nofollow"> #3 </a> </li> </ul> </header> </div> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/members/alexyscrypki.9190/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.edaboard.com/members/alexyscrypki.9190/" /> <div class="message-avatar "> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/alexyscrypki.9190/" class="avatar avatar--m avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="9190" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" style="background-color: #336666; 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Sorry I wasn't quite specific. <br /> The QAM modulation (and demodulation) is done digitally and afterwards that I/Q is combined digitally, oversampled and then converted to analog at an IF freq of let's say 30MHz using eg @D9856.<br /> (Taken from @D: The @D9856 integrates a high-speed direct-digital synthesizer (DDS), a high-performance, high-speed 12-bit Digital-to-Analog converter (DAC), clock multiplier circuitry, digital filters, and other DSP functions onto a single chip, to form a complete quadrature digital upconverter device. The @D9856 is primarily intended to function as a universal upstream and downstream I/Q modulator for interactive HFC cable network applications, where cost, size, power dissipation, and dynamic performance are critical attributes.)<br /> <br /> What I want to do is design a predistortion circuit in the Tx path right after the low pass filtering of the Tx DAC and for this I need amplitude and phase info which is not available from the baseband modem.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <br/> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> 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