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[[Wîkîpediya:Embassy|For communications in English (or any other questions other than in Zazaki), please write on our Embassy page]].''' {| <div style="border: 1px solid #ccd2d9; width: 23.5em; background: #f9f9f9; text-align: left; padding: 0.5em 1em 0.5em 1em; text-align: center;"> |- !align="center"|[[Image:Vista-file-manager.png|50px|Archive]]<br/>Arşiv ---- |- | * [[Talk:Pela Seri/Arşiv 1|Arşiv 1 - Tişrino Verên 29, 2012]] |} == Ansiklopediye == BIRAYENE;WAYENE MA TAYE OLWAZU HAU TAYE WAXTOKE ANSIKLOPEDIYE ALAMANU CORNEME ZONE MA: UCADE 100.000 NUSTEY ESTE: SIMA TEYNIYA NIYERE;KEYKE MA QEDELNA NACA KEME PIR;MA VATKE XEVERA SIMA BIVO: SIMARE MA HETRA ZAF SILAMU -- [http://diq.wikipedia.org/wiki/X%C4%B1susi:%C4%B0%C5%9Ftiraqi/93.233.101.168 93.233.101.168] : Heqi ra be xêre bırayêne! Kerem kerê, hema sıma ke çiyê darde kerd, nustanê khanu mevurnê ya ki meesterê, melumatê xo nayine ser kerê u zêde kerê. Maddeyê ke hona nênuşiyê, zêdêri ine cıkerê. Jü ki hetê rastnustene ra rınd bınusê. Kar u gurê sıma wa nıka ra rast bêro. -- [[User:Mirzali|Mirzali]]<sup>[[User Talk:Mirzali|mesac]]</sup> == Wikipediya Zazaki de kam bınuso, çı bınusiyo, senê bınusiyo? == Kamo ke wayirê wicdani yo, kamcin fikr ra beno wa bıbo, ez cı rê hurmet keno. Eke destê mı de bo, meseleyê şarê ma yew roce de hal benê. Labelê riyê serehuşkiye ra, şarê ma yew game aver nêşono. Seba çareseriye, fikrê mı nia (wına) yê: * Hem tiya de hem ki heme platformanê zazayan de, ez wazeno ke gani heme zazay yewbini ra hes bıkerê, fikranê binan rê hurmet bıkerê. Problemanê alfabe u munaqaşeyanê "zaza-kurd" de zerreyê yewbini meşıknê. Vengê zıwanê ma roc be roc beno vindi, rêçê şarê ma roc be roc benê vindi. Ma se bıkerime? Gani yewbini rê texamul bıkerime. Ez dı alfabeyan ra ki hes keno, zaf ferq çino. Anci miyanê dı standardanê nuştışi (vate u asmên) de ki zaf ferqo muhim çino. Helbet tayê ferqi estê, labelê xora tarixê nuştışê zıwanê ma hende derg niyo, ewro nêbo ki heta 10-20 serri zıwanê ma rew-erey beno standart, gani ma naye zaf derd mekerime. * Problemo bin: "zaza-kurd"... Gani heme zazay nameyê şarê xo wedarê "zaza, kırd, kırmanc, dımıli" ferq nêkeno. Xo nê çar nameyan ra name bıkerê. Labelê ez termanê zey "kurdiya zazaki/kırmancki..", "kurdê zazay/kırmanci.." weş nêvineno. Teyna "kırmanc / kırmancki", teyna "kırd/kırdki", teyna "zaza/zazaki", teyna "dımli/dımılki" bes o. Şarê ma nêvano "zaravaya/lehçeya ma", vano ke "zıwanê ma", "şarê ma"... Coka ez nê platformi de u heme platformanê zazayan de termanê "notr"an tercih keno. No kamcin fikr ra beno wa bıbo, ma pêroyine ano yew ca. Zewbina çareya ma çina. Ha, herkes xo senê vineno wa bıvêno, labelê fikranê binan rê hurmet bıkero u gani seba tayê çiyanê muşterekan piya bıguriyê u yewbini rê çımtengiye mekerê. * Qesaya mına peyêne: Tiya de, 2 alfabeyanê ma de ki bınusiyo. 2 teori (zazay şarê xoserê; zazay kurd ê) ki bêrê munaqaşe kerdış, labelê nameyanê şarê ma u zıwanê ma ra notr behs bıbo ("kurdê zazay" nê; kırdi, zazay, kırmanci, dımıli bo). Nuştış de êyê ke wazenê be fekê dewa xo zi bınusê (eke standart nêzanenê), labelê fekê dewa xo RAŞT bınusê! Zaf sılami... ----[[User:Belekvor|Belekvor]]<sup>[[User Talk:Belekvor|mı rê mesaj bırusne]]</sup> 15:12, 4 Nisane 2013 ([[UTC]]) :: Ez fıkrê bıra Belekvori rınd vênenan, labelê keso ke nuseno meqaleyê ke verênde tek yew alfabe ra nusiyayê gani inan mevurno ra alfabeyo de bin. Êyê ke kamci alfabe ra nusenê wa newe ra çiyo de bin bınusê, yanê eyni madde mebo, maddeyo ke hewna nênusiyayo ey bınusê. Yew zi, se ke bıra Belekvori vato: ''Nuştış de êyê ke wazenê be fekê dewa xo zi bınusê (eke standard nêzanenê), labelê fekê dewa xo '''RAŞT''' bınusê!'' (<small>Ben Belekvor biraderin fikrini iyi buluyorum, ancak kim yazarsa daha önceden tek bir alfabeyle yazılmış makaleleri diğer bir alfabeyle değiştirmesin. Kim hangi alfabeyle yazıyorsa yeni bir şey oluştursun, yani aynı madde olmasın, henüz yazılmamış bir madde yazsın. Bir de Belekvor biraderin söylemiş olduğu gibi: ''Yazılarda kim isterse kendi köyünün ağzıyla yazabilir (eğer standart formu bilmiyorsa), ancak kendi yöresinin ağzını da '''DOĞRU''' yazsın.''</small>) -- [[User:Mirzali|Mirzali]]<sup>[[User Talk:Mirzali|mesac]]</sup> ::: Wa bıraê delali, Ez ki fıkrê bıra Belekvori rınd vênenan. Labelê, her ensiklopeidye de be tenya yew alfabe nusiyeno. Coke ra, ma ki etıya de gani be yew alfabe bınusnime. Eke dı alfabey bıgureniyê (Ware/Jacobson u Bedirxan), o wext yewo bin yeno, vano, "ez wazenan alfabey Zılfi Selcani bıgureni, o alfabey yew merdumê ilmê zıwanio". Ma naca de Zazakiyo standard de ke nuşt, alfabey Ware/Jacobsoni u qeydeo ke ma Zazakipediya de kerdo standard, ey gurenenime. Kam ke wazeno, tabi şeno be fekê xo ki bınusno. Weş u war bımanê. --[[Karber:Asmen|Asmêno Bêwayir]] ([[Karber werênayış:Asmen|mesac]]) 11:15, 5 Nisane 2013 ([[UTC]]) :::: Selam u Sılameté Homay hameyé şıma ré bo.Homa ma ré yardım ko.Ez ji fikré mı vano, Alfabey Bedirxan qet weş niyo u kopyaya alfabey kurdano.Yew wikipediya do dı alfabey qet nébeno.Hamayê ensiklopediyan ebe tena yew alfabe nusiyeno.Tiya fikré mı ebe fikré [[Karber:Asmen|Asmêno Bêwayir]] eyniyo.No siteyê interneti [[http://dersiminfo.com/]] ebe alfabey Bedirxani nusiyeno,u Gomada o Xosere no alfabey wazenê.Prensibané inan noyo.Ema Wikipedia Zazaki ebe alfabey Jacobson nusiyeno u prensibé Wikipedia Zazaki noyo.Ya prensibé Wikipedia Zazaki ré hurmet bıbo u ebe no alfabe bınusiyo,ya ji keso ke prensibé Wikipedia Zazaki ré hurmet nékeno Wikipedia do bloke bo.Hetta yew fikré mı ji esto,herfa '''ê''' ebe alfabey kurdan eyniyo.Herfa '''ê''' wa '''é'''. Herfa '''é''' dahana rındo,dahana weşo u asayışo herfa '''é''' daha hewlo.Mı fikré mı ebe no herf nuşt.Ez tiya no harf wazeno.Xatır be şıma [[Karber:Ackdeals|Ackdeals]] ([[Karber werênayış:Ackdeals|mesac]]) 17:21, 5 Nisane 2013 ([[UTC]]) :: Merheba şima rê, ez fikrê to makûl vîneno. Mi gore hetê Alfabe ra ferqo muhîm tena "i-î" yo. Herfa "ğ" bi min zaf problem nîya (mesela ez zî wazena herinda ğ de herfa "ẍ" bigurênê). Eke ma naye de pêbikerdêne, keso ke wazeno eşkeno xo rê herfanê zêdeyan sey "ğ" bigurêno. La ana aseno kes qerarê xo ra fek veranêdano. O çax eke ma wazenî hîna zaf merdimî binusê û tîya yew mekanê şexsî ra vejîyo ma gereka yewbîn rê tehemul bikerê. Goreyê mi tayê maddeyan merdim eşkeno bi di alfabeyan zî binuso. La ez nêvano îlahîm ana bo, no zî fikrêk o. Bi taybetî mavajî eke nameyê meqale de ferqê "î/i" yan zî "ğ" esto, merdim şêno bi di alfabeyan zî binuso û vajo û şablonêk virazo vajo "na meqale bi alfabeya bedirxanî zî esta: ...." yan zî "na meqale bi standardê Vateyî zî esta:..." Qey nêbo? Û xora maddeyê ke nameyê înan de ferq çin o, bi kamcîn alfabe nusîyayî do ana dewam bikerê. Ez seba nê pêşnîyazî fikrê şima zî paweno. Beno ke hîna rind yew fikir vejîyo. <br> Eke mumkun bo, ez wazena meqaleyanê xo de şablonê xo bigurêno. Seba kitaban o şablono ke estarîya, keremê xo ra apey bîyarê. Û yewna çî zî mavajî yew meqale esta, la tena bi yew cumle yew rêz a. La wexto ke ez wazeno aye bikerî 50 cumle, 100 cumle; o çax gereka alfabeya xo bişuxulnî. Çimkî bi yew rêz meqale nêhesebîyena. Na mesela de zî wa îdarekerê wikipedia (yanî şima) hakem bibê. Ez bawer keno ke bi no hewa problemî hîna benê tay û kes kesî bînî nêdejneno. [[Karber:Neribij|Neribij]] ([[Karber werênayış:Neribij|mesac]]) 15:47, 6 Nisane 2013 ([[UTC]]) ::: Bıra Neribij, fikrê to rınd o. Ez vano ke, ma eşkenime seba AB (Alfabeya Bedirxani), u AW (Alfabeya Warey) dı şablonan bıvırazime. Naye ra dıma, meqale u nuşteyanê neweyan de ma eşkenime nê şablonan bıgurênime. Tı şablonanê xo vıraze u bınuse. Tek waştena mı u fikrê mıno şexsi, meqaleyan de ifadeyanê "notr"an bıgurênime. Mesela, "kurdki (kirmancki, kirdaski)" nê; "kirmancki, kirdaski". Seba zazaki "lehçe" nê, "zıwan" behs bıbo. Helbet tı ki eşkenê ifadeyanê "zaza u kurd" u "zazaki u kurdki" de itiraz bıkerê u herunda ninan de "zaza/kırmanc/dımıli/kırd u kurmanc/kırdas/khurr", "kirmacki/zazaki u kırdaski/kurmanci" bıgurênê. Mı gore problem çino. Eke embazê bini ki naye qebul kenê u zerrê xo hira gênê pê, problem nêveciyeno. Weş be. ----[[User:Belekvor|Belekvor]]<sup>[[User Talk:Belekvor|mı rê mesaj bırusne]]</sup> 17:34, 7 Nisane 2013 ([[UTC]]) :::: Wikipedia Zazaki teyna ebe yew alfabe nusiyeno! u Alfabeye Wikipedia Zazaki '''Alfabey Jacobson'''o.Tiya tena ebe no alfabe nuşte-vıraştene esto.Mı fam kerd ki aqılê [[Karber:Neribij|Neribij]]i qet qet çıniyo.Zazaki yew zıwano,lehçe niyo.Fikrê to zi qet weş niyo [[Karber:Neribij|Neribij]].Şermo,heyfo! Ya prensibanê ma rê hurmet bıke ya ji tiya terk bıke u şo Wikipedia Kurdan.No to rê cumley mına peyêno. [[Karber:Ackdeals|Ackdeals]] ([[Karber werênayış:Ackdeals|mesac]]) 15:23, 8 Nisane 2013 ([[UTC]]) @Ackdeals; Prensîbê to? Ti wayîrê Wîkîpediya yo? Ti verî merdimana senî qise bikerê ey bimise, dima aqil bide. No merdim her roj kesî rê heqaret keno. Perey [http://diq.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Karber_wer%C3%AAnay%C4%B1%C5%9F%3AXosere&diff=300322&oldid=300321 Xosere] û [http://diq.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Karber_wer%C3%AAnay%C4%B1%C5%9F:Azadi&diff=prev&oldid=300303 Azadiy] rê, vizêr [http://diq.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3APortal%C3%AA_cemaeti&diff=300543&oldid=300391 mi rê], ewro zî Neribijî rê heqaret kerdo. Îdarêkerdoxî do çi wext ey asteng bikerê?—<small>[[Karber:Gomada|<span style="background:Yellow">'''''<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:red">Gom<span style="color:#006400">ada</span></span></span>''''']]<sup>[[Karber werênayış:Gomada|peyam]]</sup></small> 18:34, 8 Nisane 2013 ([[UTC]]) ==Heqaret u Teberkerdiş== Yew karber, eke karberanê binan rê heqaret keno, gani Wikipediya Zazaki ra bêro teberkerdiş (Jü karber ke karbere binura heqeret kerd, Wikipedya Zazaki'ra erjino tever). Eke karber Ackdeals heqaretanê xo peyser nêgêno u Wikipediya Zazaki ra ozrê xo nêwazeno, gani tiya ra bêro dûri kerdiş. ----[[User:Belekvor|Belekvor]]<sup>[[User Talk:Belekvor|mı rê mesaj bırusne]]</sup> 18:03, 9 Nisane 2013 ([[UTC]]) ==Zıwanê İrankiy== Pela Serî de qisme "Zıwanê İrankiy" lazim nîyo. Yew manayê ci çînî yo. Lizûm nikeno. --[[Karber:Xosere|Xosere]] ([[Karber werênayış:Xosere|mesac]]) 16:02, 11 Gulane 2013 ([[UTC]]) ) == Name == Nameyê wîkî di "Dimilkî" nusîyaya, rast niyo, gerek "Dimilî" bo.--[[Karber:Azadi|Azadi]] ([[Karber mesac:Azadi|mesac]]) 12:07, 30 Tebaxe 2013 ([[UTC]]) == iyeke nacade Zone made nii, Zone bihnude nusnene == Weyişe ramıtena Seyid Rıza'y de maez çi zon , hewal, netewiye... yaw sıma pe ma kay kene? eke Zone made nusnene bınusne, nenusneneki Zone ma xerepiyayi mekere. eke khurrki yaki tırrki wazene bınusne şere wikiya tırrkude yaki khurrude bınusne ..nacade ma wazeme Zone xo awer berime, sarire Zone ma her kerdene nii! == Bra Pela verine key vurnene? == == [[:en:wikt:Appendix:Indo-Iranian Swadesh lists (extended)]] == Please add variant word of your languages in this list.--[[Karber:Kaiyr|Kaiyr]] ([[Karber vaten:Kaiyr|mesac]]) 08:45, 17 Tebaxe 2014 ([[UTC]]) == Kami şablonê "vurnayışê peyêni" vurnao, kerdo "vurnayışê bahdoyeni"? == Çıra qısey Erebki kenê heruna qısey Zazaki? "mor" kerdi bi "tamğa", nêzanan xeylê çarnayışi maf kerdi; şıma çıra hına kenê, kenê kayê domanan? --[[Karber:Asmen|Asmêno Bêwayir]] ([[Karber vaten:Asmen|mesac]]) 22:59, 30 Gulane 2016 ([[UTC]]) : Bırawo delali! Hasa to ra [[Karber:Erdemaslancan|Erdem]]ê mao saro qumqumık esto ya, dey rê se biyo? [https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&translations=only&trailer=/diq İta de niya de!] To rê zameto, tı ki tayê mesacan anciya era raşt ke. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Karber vaten:Mirzali|mesac]]) 07:09, 1 Hezirane 2016 ([[UTC]]) == Namey Zazaki == Bıraêno, serpela Wikipediya Zazaki sero teberê namey zıwaniyo pêroyi [[Zazaki]] de, namey bini zi zey Kırdki, Dımılki, Kırmancki, Zonê Ma zi nusenê. Ez van namey bini luzım nêkenê. Zazaki namey zıwanê mao pêroyi qebul biyo, uca teyna nameyo pêroyi [[Zazaki]] bıbo. Nuştey [[Zazaki]] de xora namey bini nusenê. Şıma vanê se? [[Karber:Vuzorg|Vuzorg]] ([[Karber vaten:Vuzorg|mesac]]) 16:13, 21 Tişrino Verên 2016 ([[UTC]]) == Namê zıwani == Perra seri gani versiyonê tarixê ''08:14, 16 Nisane 2017‎ Mirzali''y ra bêro gırewtış. Namê zıwanio pêroyi Zazakiyo. Namê mehelli perra serêne de luzım zaf nêkenê. Perra [[Zazaki]] de namê zıwaniê bini xora estê. Halo nıkayên hetê asayışi ra weş niyo, zey 'paint'i aseno. [[Karber:Vuzorg|Vuzorg]] ([[Karber vaten:Vuzorg|mesac]]) 14:15, 11 Gulane 2019 ([[UTC]]) == Bûmo tatiyın / sabiyın / belekın == Embazêno, fotografê heftey rê weş u war bê. Labelê nuştey bıni de gani hına bınusiyo: '''Bûmo tatiyın / sabiyın''' ya ki '''bûmo belekın'''. Xetanê kurasi rê vanê "tatiye, sabiye", ê heywanan rê vanê "belek". Ae gore etıya de ki hıni bınusiyo; labelê mı nêşa. 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