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Where do they disagree? --<a href="/wiki/User:BDD" title="User:BDD">BDD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BDD" title="User talk:BDD">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-BDD-2008-10-24T03:19:00.000Z-GOA_divered_from_the_NRA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BDD-2008-10-24T03:19:00.000Z-GOA_divered_from_the_NRA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-10-24T03:19:00.000Z","author":"BDD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BDD-2008-10-24T03:19:00.000Z-GOA_divered_from_the_NRA","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BDD-2008-10-24T03:19:00.000Z-GOA_divered_from_the_NRA"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-137.111.47.29-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Advertising-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-137.111.47.29-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:46:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:49:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-Ninahexan-2009-09-07T06:14:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:44:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-199.221.98.4-2009-10-27T13:56:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-Janus303-2009-11-19T03:50:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Advertising&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Advertising&quot;}--><h2 id="Advertising" data-mw-thread-id="h-Advertising-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Advertising-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z"></span>Advertising<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Advertising-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Advertising"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-137.111.47.29-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Advertising-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-137.111.47.29-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z-Advertising","c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:46:00.000Z-Advertising","c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:49:00.000Z-Advertising","c-Ninahexan-2009-09-07T06:14:00.000Z-Advertising","c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:44:00.000Z-Advertising","c-199.221.98.4-2009-10-27T13:56:00.000Z-Advertising","c-Janus303-2009-11-19T03:50:00.000Z-Advertising","c-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z-Advertising"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:44:00.000Z-Advertising","timestamp":"2013-04-19T18:44:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__9__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__8__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-137.111.47.29-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Advertising-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-137.111.47.29-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:46:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:49:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-Ninahexan-2009-09-07T06:14:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:44:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-199.221.98.4-2009-10-27T13:56:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-Janus303-2009-11-19T03:50:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;,&quot;c-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z-Advertising&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Advertising&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Advertising&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-137.111.47.29-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z-Advertising"></span>I was wondering how I might go about buying advertising space on wikipedia in much the same way that the Gun Owners of America seem to have done here. Nino<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/137.111.47.29" title="Special:Contributions/137.111.47.29">137.111.47.29</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:137.111.47.29" title="User talk:137.111.47.29">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-137.111.47.29-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z-Advertising" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-137.111.47.29-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z-Advertising"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z","author":"137.111.47.29","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-137.111.47.29-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z-Advertising","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-137.111.47.29-2009-02-25T02:14:00.000Z-Advertising"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:46:00.000Z-Advertising"></span>You start an organization that 3 million people believe in enough to join and pay dues to. Your organization should uphold at least one of the constitutional amendments that are under siege by our current leftist administration. Simple. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.41.173.15" title="Special:Contributions/66.41.173.15">66.41.173.15</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:66.41.173.15&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:66.41.173.15 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:46:00.000Z-Advertising" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:46:00.000Z-Advertising"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-15T23:46:00.000Z","author":"66.41.173.15","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:46:00.000Z-Advertising","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:46:00.000Z-Advertising"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:49:00.000Z-Advertising"></span>Sorry, I meant 3 hundred thousand members, not 3 million. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.41.173.15" title="Special:Contributions/66.41.173.15">66.41.173.15</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:66.41.173.15&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:66.41.173.15 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:49:00.000Z-Advertising" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:49:00.000Z-Advertising"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-15T23:49:00.000Z","author":"66.41.173.15","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:49:00.000Z-Advertising","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-66.41.173.15-2009-08-15T23:49:00.000Z-Advertising"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ninahexan-2009-09-07T06:14:00.000Z-Advertising"></span>So the page reflects a political agenda advanced by 0.001% of the population of the US, rather than presenting facts about the organisation. Interesting. <a href="/wiki/User:Ninahexan" title="User:Ninahexan">Ninahexan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ninahexan" title="User talk:Ninahexan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-Ninahexan-2009-09-07T06:14:00.000Z-Advertising" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ninahexan-2009-09-07T06:14:00.000Z-Advertising"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-07T06:14:00.000Z","author":"Ninahexan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ninahexan-2009-09-07T06:14:00.000Z-Advertising","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ninahexan-2009-09-07T06:14:00.000Z-Advertising"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:44:00.000Z-Advertising"></span>Just because only (?) 300,000 people actually sign up and PAY dues doesn't mean they represent the views of only 300,000 people. How many folks pay money (directly) to Planned Parenthood?? I guess many more people believe in Gun Rights than abortion. GOA should do like PP and just get congress to mandate that everyone in the U.S. is taxed to support them. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/107.36.76.34" title="Special:Contributions/107.36.76.34">107.36.76.34</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:107.36.76.34" title="User talk:107.36.76.34">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:44:00.000Z-Advertising" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:44:00.000Z-Advertising"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-19T18:44:00.000Z","author":"107.36.76.34","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:44:00.000Z-Advertising","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:44:00.000Z-Advertising"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-199.221.98.4-2009-10-27T13:56:00.000Z-Advertising"></span> At the very least, this article ought to be flagged for being a pure puff piece. There is no balance, there is no objectivity here. Neutral tone, anyone? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/199.221.98.4" title="Special:Contributions/199.221.98.4">199.221.98.4</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:199.221.98.4" title="User talk:199.221.98.4">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-199.221.98.4-2009-10-27T13:56:00.000Z-Advertising" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 27 October 2009 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-199.221.98.4-2009-10-27T13:56:00.000Z-Advertising"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-27T13:56:00.000Z","author":"199.221.98.4","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-199.221.98.4-2009-10-27T13:56:00.000Z-Advertising","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-199.221.98.4-2009-10-27T13:56:00.000Z-Advertising"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Janus303-2009-11-19T03:50:00.000Z-Advertising"></span>Folks, don't just complain. Be bold and edit the article, or tag it as having issues (which I have just done). This article relies on one source: the subject of the article. All other sources cited are either press releases from this organization or stories on friendly websites (e.g. WorldNetDaily) about press releases issued by this organization. The two other sources cited have dead links. This article needs major surgery. <a href="/wiki/User:Janus303" title="User:Janus303">Janus303</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janus303" title="User talk:Janus303">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-Janus303-2009-11-19T03:50:00.000Z-Advertising" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Janus303-2009-11-19T03:50:00.000Z-Advertising"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-19T03:50:00.000Z","author":"Janus303","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Janus303-2009-11-19T03:50:00.000Z-Advertising","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Janus303-2009-11-19T03:50:00.000Z-Advertising"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z-Advertising"></span>I tried to add some balance, at least with some statistics. For some reason the formatting for the cite isn't coming out right though. <a href="/wiki/User:Ace-o-aces" title="User:Ace-o-aces">Ace-o-aces</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ace-o-aces" title="User talk:Ace-o-aces">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z-Advertising" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 26 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z-Advertising"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z","author":"Ace-o-aces","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z-Advertising","replies":["c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z-Advertising"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z"></span>Hi guys. I will encourage you to explore WP and examine other articles. Also checkout <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POV"> POV</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS"> RS</a>. Its appropriate to ref the organization's press releases to cite positions it has officially taken, things it has said, their 'ratings' for people. If the GOA makes certain points in its info campaigns, linking to one of those campaigns is the way to go and is actually encouraged in the policy (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a>).</dd> <dd>=<a href="/wiki/User:Digiphi" title="User:Digiphi">Digiphi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Digiphi" title="User talk:Digiphi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 9 October 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z-Ace-o-aces-2009-11-26T14:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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id="c-67.248.251.195-2009-12-10T11:29:00.000Z-article_critical_of_GOA"></span>http://motherjones.com/politics/2009/12/gun-activists-take-aim-obamacare</a> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.248.251.195" title="Special:Contributions/67.248.251.195">67.248.251.195</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:67.248.251.195&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:67.248.251.195 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-67.248.251.195-2009-12-10T11:29:00.000Z-article_critical_of_GOA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 10 December 2009 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-67.248.251.195-2009-12-10T11:29:00.000Z-article_critical_of_GOA"><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Contested_fact-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z-Contested_fact&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Contested fact&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Contested fact&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z-Contested_fact"></span>I removed the following text from the article: "In California last year, two children died—they were pitchforked to death by a crazed drug addict—because a resident in the home could not access the household firearms in time. The guns were locked up in deference to California state law." - I would argue this is a contested fact. You might argue that the children died because the social care system let "a crazed drug addict" to be in a situation where they might harm children. You might argue that children would not have been killed if the local law enforcement agencies arrived more quickly on the scene and were able to resolve the situation. You might argue that the term "a crazed drug addict" needs to be clarified and is not appropriate for wikipedia. Overall I think this sentence should withdrawn for two reasons 1. It cannot be proven as a clear case of cause and effect and 2. the terminology is inappropriate for wikipedia. --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/87.194.211.85" title="Special:Contributions/87.194.211.85">87.194.211.85</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:87.194.211.85" title="User talk:87.194.211.85">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z-Contested_fact" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 9 October 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z-Contested_fact"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z","author":"87.194.211.85","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z-Contested_fact","replies":["c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z-Contested_fact"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z"></span>Interesting, but Wikipedia is not courtroom, and not democracy. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POV">WP:POV</a>. Contested facts are fine, and are encouraged per policy. If you can find a source that describes them as contested or describes an opposing viewpoint then you should add that to the article as well.</dd> <dd>-<a href="/wiki/User:Digiphi" title="User:Digiphi">Digiphi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Digiphi" title="User talk:Digiphi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 9 October 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z","author":"Digiphi","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:38:00.000Z-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z-87.194.211.85-2010-10-09T13:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:38:00.000Z-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Here are two refs talking about the incident, and each describes enough that MOS would prescribe mentioning that the facts are contested. See if you wan work them into the article without misrepresenting the section about the GOAs info campaign. They'll have to be outside it. My advice would be to create a page about Jonathon David Bruce and link to it. See what you can do.</dd> <dd>1) <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2000/08/25/2000-08-25_bizarre_pitchfork_slayings_d.html">NYDailyNews article</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>2) <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_Amend/deaths_in_merced.htm">TYsknews piece</a></dd> <dd>-<a href="/wiki/User:Digiphi" title="User:Digiphi">Digiphi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Digiphi" title="User talk:Digiphi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:38:00.000Z-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:38, 9 October 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:38:00.000Z-Digiphi-2010-10-09T14:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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His quote is included in full in the source that was cited, and <b>nowhere</b> did Pratt say that the shooting was done as "part of a plot" as the text here claimed. All Pratt said is that the shooting has been exploited by politicians, which is a very different claim. <a href="/wiki/User:ROG5728" title="User:ROG5728">ROG5728</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ROG5728" title="User talk:ROG5728">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T18:54:00.000Z-Aurora,_Colorado_shooting" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 27 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T18:54:00.000Z-Aurora,_Colorado_shooting"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-07-27T18:54:00.000Z","author":"ROG5728","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T18:54:00.000Z-Aurora,_Colorado_shooting","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T18:54:00.000Z-Aurora,_Colorado_shooting"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Obama's_anti-gun_stance-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance&quot;,&quot;c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:39:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance&quot;,&quot;c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:35:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance&quot;,&quot;c-75.17.193.238-2013-05-13T17:27:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Obama's anti-gun stance&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Obama's anti-gun stance&quot;}--><h2 id="Obama's_anti-gun_stance" data-mw-thread-id="h-Obama&#039;s_anti-gun_stance-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z"><span id="Obama.27s_anti-gun_stance"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Obama's_anti-gun_stance-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z"></span>Obama's anti-gun stance<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Obama's_anti-gun_stance-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: Obama&#039;s anti-gun stance"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Obama's_anti-gun_stance-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance","c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:39:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance","c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:35:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance","c-75.17.193.238-2013-05-13T17:27:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-75.17.193.238-2013-05-13T17:27:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance","timestamp":"2013-05-13T17:27:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Obama's_anti-gun_stance-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance&quot;,&quot;c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:39:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance&quot;,&quot;c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:35:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance&quot;,&quot;c-75.17.193.238-2013-05-13T17:27:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Obama's anti-gun stance&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Obama's anti-gun stance&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"></span>The statement that "The [Obama] administration in fact has taken no steps to limit gun ownership" is patently false and it is contradicted by the first citation, which clearly says that the Obama admin created a multiple rifle sales reporting requirement in border states (for which the admin was quickly sued by the NRA). It also mentions that Obama has appointed two vehemently anti-gun Supreme Court justices, Sotomayor and Kagan. I went ahead and removed the statement. <a href="/wiki/User:ROG5728" title="User:ROG5728">ROG5728</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ROG5728" title="User talk:ROG5728">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 27 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z","author":"ROG5728","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance","replies":["c-PaulinSaudi-2013-01-21T06:24:00.000Z-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PaulinSaudi-2013-01-21T06:24:00.000Z-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z"></span>I am unaware of any anti-gun rulings by either Justice Sotomayor or Kagan. Could you provide a cite? <a href="/wiki/User:PaulinSaudi" title="User:PaulinSaudi">Paul, in Saudi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PaulinSaudi" title="User talk:PaulinSaudi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-PaulinSaudi-2013-01-21T06:24:00.000Z-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PaulinSaudi-2013-01-21T06:24:00.000Z-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-21T06:24:00.000Z","author":"PaulinSaudi","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PaulinSaudi-2013-01-21T06:24:00.000Z-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Paul, in Saudi"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PaulinSaudi-2013-01-21T06:24:00.000Z-ROG5728-2012-07-27T19:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <pre><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:39:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"></span> @Paul - just google it. they lie when they are up for nomination, like all liberals. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/107.36.76.34" title="Special:Contributions/107.36.76.34">107.36.76.34</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:107.36.76.34" title="User talk:107.36.76.34">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:39:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:39:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-19T18:39:00.000Z","author":"107.36.76.34","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:39:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:39:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"></span> </pre> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:35:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"></span> both obama and holder are on videotape admitting they want to ban all guns in America. the audio from these has been played over and over on conservative talk radio. holder talks about wanting to brainwash americans into believing guns are bad iirc. why the national media dont report on them? use your own judgement. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/107.36.76.34" title="Special:Contributions/107.36.76.34">107.36.76.34</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:107.36.76.34" title="User talk:107.36.76.34">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:35:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:35:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-19T18:35:00.000Z","author":"107.36.76.34","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:35:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-107.36.76.34-2013-04-19T18:35:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-75.17.193.238-2013-05-13T17:27:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"></span>While the statements you make are true NOW, they were not true when the article was created in 2008. The facts can change over time, jumping up and down (figuratively) and screaming LIBERAL! LIBERAL! like a 1950's era cartoon of a woman standing on a chair screaming mouse! mouse! is not necessary. As a matter of fact we don't need people with this attitude on our side. You just perpetuate the anti-gun nuts view of gun owners as being those "crazy gun owners". --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.17.193.238" title="Special:Contributions/75.17.193.238">75.17.193.238</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:75.17.193.238&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:75.17.193.238 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-75.17.193.238-2013-05-13T17:27:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 13 May 2013 (UTC)</a> Doc Ock<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-75.17.193.238-2013-05-13T17:27:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-13T17:27:00.000Z","author":"75.17.193.238","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-75.17.193.238-2013-05-13T17:27:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-75.17.193.238-2013-05-13T17:27:00.000Z-Obama's_anti-gun_stance"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cyberbot_II-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-External_links_modified-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cyberbot_II-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z-External_links_modified&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;}--><h2 id="External_links_modified" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cyberbot_II-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-External_links_modified-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cyberbot_II-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z-External_links_modified"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cyberbot_II-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z-External_links_modified","timestamp":"2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cyberbot_II-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-External_links_modified-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cyberbot_II-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z-External_links_modified&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyberbot_II-2015-10-19T17:18:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, </p><p>I have just added archive links to 4 external links on <a href="/wiki/Gun_Owners_of_America" title="Gun Owners of America">Gun Owners of America</a>. 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There are lots of stories like this on the internet. </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/31/gun-control-lobbying-groups-nra/9994447002/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/31/gun-control-lobbying-groups-nra/9994447002/</a><br/> Beyond NRA: Other gun rights groups spend millions in Washington to influence laws<br/> DONOVAN SLACK, CHELSEY COX<br/> USA TODAY<br/> May 5, 2022<br/> </p><p>"The Second Amendment is about defending yourself from an attacker, be it a criminal, or a tyrannical government," Johnston said. "And so Americans need to have the same weaponry as the military." </p><p>He said no legislation would have prevented what happened in Uvalde, arguing that a determined shooter would have found a way to get a weapon, regardless of age limits or background checks or bans. </p><p>-- <a href="/wiki/User:Nbauman" title="User:Nbauman">Nbauman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nbauman" title="User talk:Nbauman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-Nbauman-2022-06-03T17:28:00.000Z-Recent_news_in_2022" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 3 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nbauman-2022-06-03T17:28:00.000Z-Recent_news_in_2022"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-06-03T17:28:00.000Z","author":"Nbauman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nbauman-2022-06-03T17:28:00.000Z-Recent_news_in_2022","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nbauman-2022-06-03T17:28:00.000Z-Recent_news_in_2022"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Darknipples-20240306202300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-GOA_victories_section-20240306202300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Darknipples-20240306202300-GOA_victories_section&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;GOA victories section&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;GOA victories section&quot;}--><h2 id="GOA_victories_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-GOA_victories_section-20240306202300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GOA_victories_section-20240306202300"></span>GOA victories section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-GOA_victories_section-20240306202300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America&amp;action=edit&amp;section=11" title="Edit section: GOA victories section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Darknipples-20240306202300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-GOA_victories_section-20240306202300","replies":["c-Darknipples-20240306202300-GOA_victories_section"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Darknipples-20240306202300-GOA_victories_section","timestamp":"20240306202300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Darknipples-20240306202300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-GOA_victories_section-20240306202300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Darknipples-20240306202300-GOA_victories_section&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;GOA victories section&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;GOA victories section&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Darknipples-20240306202300-GOA_victories_section"></span>Addition for consideration in this section. </p><p>"Gun Owners of America, a nonprofit lobbying organization that promotes gun rights, wrote about the elimination of the ban on X, formerly Twitter. "Congressional deal cuts funding to the ATF," the organization said, referring to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, "and eliminates a 20+ year old gun ban for veterans. It also temporarily reauthorizes the archaic Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988." <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.newsweek.com/mentally-incompetent-americans-given-access-guns-under-new-bill-1875501">Newsweek</a> </p><p>Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:Darknipples" title="User:Darknipples">DN</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Darknipples" title="User talk:Darknipples">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_Owners_of_America#c-Darknipples-20240306202300-GOA_victories_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Darknipples-20240306202300-GOA_victories_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240306202300","author":"Darknipples","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Darknipples-20240306202300-GOA_victories_section","replies":[],"displayName":"DN"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Darknipples-20240306202300-GOA_victories_section"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐5dc468848‐s7hrh Cached time: 20241122205358 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.030 seconds CPU time usage: 0.506 seconds Real time usage: 0.686 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 7487/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 48327/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 4276/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 11/100 Expensive parser function count: 14/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 32958/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.196/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 3701302/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 498.855 1 -total 74.43% 371.317 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 58.05% 289.594 1 Template:WikiProject_United_States 21.96% 109.553 1 Template:American_English 8.84% 44.084 1 Template:Flatlist 6.24% 31.152 91 Template:Ifexist_not_redirect 3.93% 19.615 1 Template:WikiProject_Politics 2.79% 13.905 1 Template:WikiProject_Organizations 2.75% 13.733 1 Template:WikiProject_Firearms 2.21% 11.028 4 Template:Tlx --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:519259-0!canonical and timestamp 20241122205358 and revision id 1212235511. 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