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href="#Egyptian_Arabic_pronunciation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Egyptian Arabic pronunciation</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Egyptian_Arabic_pronunciation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>A barnstar for you</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Speedy_tagging" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Speedy_tagging"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Speedy tagging</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Speedy_tagging-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-2024_eurovision" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2024_eurovision"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>2024 eurovision</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-2024_eurovision-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_has_been_accepted" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_has_been_accepted"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Your submission at Articles for creation: Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 has been accepted</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_has_been_accepted-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_(June_30)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_(June_30)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Your submission at Articles for creation: Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 (June 30)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_(June_30)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-July_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#July_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>July 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-July_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Invitation" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Invitation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Invitation</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Invitation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Italy_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_(July_22)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Italy_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_(July_22)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Your submission at Articles for creation: Italy in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 (July 22)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Italy_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_(July_22)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_has_been_accepted" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_has_been_accepted"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Your submission at Articles for creation: Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 has been accepted</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_has_been_accepted-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_July_25" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_July_25"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for July 25</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_July_25-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Speedy_deletion_declined:_Israel_in_the_Eurovision_song_contest_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Speedy_deletion_declined:_Israel_in_the_Eurovision_song_contest_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Speedy deletion declined: Israel in the Eurovision song contest 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Speedy_deletion_declined:_Israel_in_the_Eurovision_song_contest_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Benidorm_Fest_2024_logo.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Benidorm_Fest_2024_logo.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Orphaned non-free image File:Benidorm Fest 2024 logo.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Benidorm_Fest_2024_logo.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Memo" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Memo"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Memo</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Memo-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_September_25" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_September_25"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for September 25</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_September_25-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Cyprus_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Cyprus_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Speedy deletion nomination of Cyprus in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Cyprus_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_5" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_5"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for October 5</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_5-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>I have sent you a note about a page you started</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_RTK's_Festival_of_Song_has_been_accepted" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_RTK's_Festival_of_Song_has_been_accepted"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Your submission at Articles for creation: RTK's Festival of Song has been accepted</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_RTK's_Festival_of_Song_has_been_accepted-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_23" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_23"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for October 23</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_23-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Irish_IPA" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Irish_IPA"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Irish IPA</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Irish_IPA-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Music_competition" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Music_competition"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Music competition</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Music_competition-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_7" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_7"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for November 7</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_7-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Benidorm_Fest_2024_logo.png" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Benidorm_Fest_2024_logo.png"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Orphaned non-free image File:Benidorm Fest 2024 logo.png</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Benidorm_Fest_2024_logo.png-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_20" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_20"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for November 20</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_20-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-IPA_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#IPA_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>IPA request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-IPA_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Malta_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Malta_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Malta Eurovision Song Contest 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Malta_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Silia_Kapsis" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Silia_Kapsis"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Silia Kapsis</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">21 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Silia_Kapsis-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hong_Kong_names" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hong_Kong_names"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Hong Kong names</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Hong_Kong_names-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Eurovision_Articles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Eurovision_Articles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Eurovision Articles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Eurovision_Articles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Eurovision_edits" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Eurovision_edits"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Eurovision edits</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Eurovision_edits-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Aiko_(Czech_singer)_moved_to_draftspace" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Aiko_(Czech_singer)_moved_to_draftspace"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Aiko (Czech singer) moved to draftspace</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Aiko_(Czech_singer)_moved_to_draftspace-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Eurovisionfun" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Eurovisionfun"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Eurovisionfun</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Eurovisionfun-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>I have sent you a note about a page you started</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_25" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_25"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for January 25</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_25-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>A barnstar for you</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nomination_of_Nasra_Ali_Abukar_for_deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nomination_of_Nasra_Ali_Abukar_for_deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Nomination of Nasra Ali Abukar for deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nomination_of_Nasra_Ali_Abukar_for_deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for February 2</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Alyona" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Alyona"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Alyona</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Alyona-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-help_requests_for_Leo_Gullotta_and_others" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#help_requests_for_Leo_Gullotta_and_others"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>help requests for Leo Gullotta and others</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-help_requests_for_Leo_Gullotta_and_others-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Bambie_Thug" class="vector-toc-list-item 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The original talk page is located at <span class="plainlinks" style="overflow-wrap:break-word;"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98"><span>https://en.wiki</span><span>pedia.org/wi</span><span>ki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98</span></a>.</span> </div> </div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98/Archives" title="User talk:IvanScrooge98/Archives">Archives</a></li></ul> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Translation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Translation-20221208184900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Translation-20221208184900"></span>Translation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Translation-20221208184900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Translation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Another_Believer-20221208184900-Translation"></span>Hello! Strange request here, but an <a href="/wiki/Jason_Moore_(Wikipedia_editor)" title="Jason Moore (Wikipedia editor)">article about me and my Wikipedia work</a> has been promoted to Good article status at English Wikipedia and nominated for similar status at <a href="/wiki/Spanish_Wikipedia" title="Spanish Wikipedia">Spanish Wikipedia</a>. I'm curious if you have any interest in translating the entry for other Wikipedia projects? </p><p>Figured I'd ask since your profile suggests you do translation work. Either way, happy editing! ---<a href="/wiki/User:Another_Believer" title="User:Another Believer"><span style="color:navy">Another Believer</span></a> <sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Another_Believer" title="User talk:Another Believer"><span style="color:#C60">Talk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Another_Believer-20221208184900-Translation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:49, 8 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Another_Believer-20221208184900-Translation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Another_Believer-20221208184900-Translation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20221209165600-Another_Believer-20221208184900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Another_Believer" title="User:Another Believer">Another Believer</a>:</span> hi there! Sure, I’ll gladly do some translation work when I get a spare moment for it. :) 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20221209165600-Another_Believer-20221208184900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 9 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20221209165600-Another_Believer-20221208184900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20221209165600-Another_Believer-20221208184900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Another_Believer-20221209173100-IvanScrooge98-20221209165600"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="👍" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Wikipedia_like_SVG.svg/25px-Wikipedia_like_SVG.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Wikipedia_like_SVG.svg/38px-Wikipedia_like_SVG.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Wikipedia_like_SVG.svg/50px-Wikipedia_like_SVG.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Like</b> Wow, thanks so much! I appreciate your willingness to help. ---<a href="/wiki/User:Another_Believer" title="User:Another Believer"><span style="color:navy">Another Believer</span></a> <sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Another_Believer" title="User talk:Another Believer"><span style="color:#C60">Talk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Another_Believer-20221209173100-IvanScrooge98-20221209165600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 9 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Another_Believer-20221209173100-IvanScrooge98-20221209165600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Another_Believer-20221209173100-IvanScrooge98-20221209165600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Another_Believer-20230322180300-Another_Believer-20221209173100"></span>Hi again! I'm curious if you might have time to revisit this request for Italian Wikipedia and/or Lombard Wikipedia. There's certainly no rush here, just wanted to ask again before this section is archived. Thanks again and take care for now! ---<a href="/wiki/User:Another_Believer" title="User:Another Believer"><span style="color:navy">Another Believer</span></a> <sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Another_Believer" title="User talk:Another Believer"><span style="color:#C60">Talk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Another_Believer-20230322180300-Another_Believer-20221209173100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 22 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Another_Believer-20230322180300-Another_Believer-20221209173100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Another_Believer-20230322180300-Another_Believer-20221209173100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230322194600-Another_Believer-20230322180300"></span>Yep! I definitely did not forget about it, I’ve just been too busy for massive work like translation. But I will as soon as I can, I promise! 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230322194600-Another_Believer-20230322180300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 22 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230322194600-Another_Believer-20230322180300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230322194600-Another_Believer-20230322180300"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230713131600-Another_Believer-20230322180300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Another_Believer" title="User:Another Believer">Another Believer</a>:</span> it took me a few months, but <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Moore_(wikipediano)" class="extiw" title="it:Jason Moore (wikipediano)">I finally managed to translate the article to itwiki</a>. Hope I did I good job! 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230713131600-Another_Believer-20230322180300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230713131600-Another_Believer-20230322180300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230713131600-Another_Believer-20230322180300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Another_Believer-20230713132400-IvanScrooge98-20230713131600"></span>Wow, thank you so much, I will take a look later today. Much appreciated, ---<a href="/wiki/User:Another_Believer" title="User:Another Believer"><span style="color:navy">Another Believer</span></a> <sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Another_Believer" title="User talk:Another Believer"><span style="color:#C60">Talk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Another_Believer-20230713132400-IvanScrooge98-20230713131600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Another_Believer-20230713132400-IvanScrooge98-20230713131600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Another_Believer-20230713132400-IvanScrooge98-20230713131600"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230713132600-Another_Believer-20230713132400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Another_Believer" title="User:Another Believer">Another Believer</a>:</span> apparently all this served to nothing; an admin has already nominated it for deletion. 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230713132600-Another_Believer-20230713132400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230713132600-Another_Believer-20230713132400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230713132600-Another_Believer-20230713132400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Another_Believer-20230713132800-IvanScrooge98-20230713132600"></span>Oh, I'm sorry to see (and hope your time wasn't wasted), but perhaps the entry will be kept. Interesting how an entry can be Good at some Wikipedia projects and deleted at others. We shall see what happens, but thanks again for trying. ---<a href="/wiki/User:Another_Believer" title="User:Another Believer"><span style="color:navy">Another Believer</span></a> <sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Another_Believer" title="User talk:Another Believer"><span style="color:#C60">Talk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Another_Believer-20230713132800-IvanScrooge98-20230713132600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:28, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Another_Believer-20230713132800-IvanScrooge98-20230713132600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Another_Believer-20230713132800-IvanScrooge98-20230713132600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230713133400-Another_Believer-20230713132800"></span>Don’t worry, after all it actually only took me a few hours; but in all honesty I was a bit worried this would happen, having past experience with the different criteria used in the two wikis. As you said, we shall see. All the best! 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230713133400-Another_Believer-20230713132800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230713133400-Another_Believer-20230713132800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230713133400-Another_Believer-20230713132800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WP:BRD" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:BRD-20230128164100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP:BRD-20230128164100"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP:BRD-20230128164100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: WP:BRD"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chiswick_Chap-20230128164100-WP:BRD"></span>I have reverted your repeated introduction of the "Respell" gadget into <a href="/wiki/Isengard" title="Isengard">Isengard</a> to the <i>status quo ante</i>. Per policy, if you have been reverted, you either accept the reversion, or start a discussion. You should never try to force something that has been reverted into an article, it is not acceptable, specially from an experienced editor. Many thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Chiswick_Chap" title="User:Chiswick Chap">Chiswick Chap</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chiswick_Chap" title="User talk:Chiswick Chap">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Chiswick_Chap-20230128164100-WP:BRD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 28 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chiswick_Chap-20230128164100-WP:BRD"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chiswick_Chap-20230128164100-WP:BRD"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230128164800-Chiswick_Chap-20230128164100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Chiswick_Chap" title="User:Chiswick Chap">Chiswick Chap</a>:</span> I am aware and I’m sorry. Considering your argument for the revert I just thought making my point more clear in my following edit summary would be enough. 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230128164800-Chiswick_Chap-20230128164100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 28 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230128164800-Chiswick_Chap-20230128164100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230128164800-Chiswick_Chap-20230128164100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Lombardéa"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Lombardéa"-20230215212800"><span id=".22Lombard.C3.A9a.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Lombardéa"-20230215212800"></span>"Lombardéa"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Lombardéa"-20230215212800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: "Lombardéa""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stévan-20230215212800-"Lombardéa""></span>I find this spelling weird, because the stressed vowel is in an open syllable, don't you? In this way every single Latin <b>I</b> would come to /e/... maybe it's because it creates a diphthong with ending /a/? --<a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:St%C3%A9van" title="User talk:Stévan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Stévan-20230215212800-"Lombardéa"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stévan-20230215212800-"Lombardéa""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stévan-20230215212800-"Lombardéa""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230215213600-Stévan-20230215212800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a>:</span> you may not be wrong. I have seen it being used consistently on the Lombard Wikipedia and checking more thoroughly it does seem to be a variant; not sure what we should ascribe it to though. 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230215213600-Stévan-20230215212800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230215213600-Stévan-20230215212800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230215213600-Stévan-20230215212800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stévan-20230216113600-IvanScrooge98-20230215213600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98">IvanScrooge98</a>, unfortunately I got a lot of bad experience with all these transcriptions, and that's why I'm so boring in asking for sources.</dd> <dd>For example, on it.wiki there was a period of fascination for <i>laghée dialect</i> (obviously because of Van De Sfroos), during which the mood was to change every single <b>i</b> in <b>e</b>, every <b>u</b> in <b>o</b>, and every <b>ü</b> in <b>ö</b>, without proper criteria, just to make it sound more <i>laghée</i> and different.</dd> <dd>But reality is that there's no literature about this dialect, and existing literature says that these features are not so systematic and are limited to a very specific area of the Lake, while the rest tends simply to agree with <i>comasco</i>, <i>lecchese</i> or <i>valtellinese</i>; so I got a long working for cleaning up all these invented contents. <a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:St%C3%A9van" title="User talk:Stévan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Stévan-20230216113600-IvanScrooge98-20230215213600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:36, 16 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stévan-20230216113600-IvanScrooge98-20230215213600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stévan-20230216113600-IvanScrooge98-20230215213600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230216114700-Stévan-20230216113600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a>:</span> I completely understand and actually I am often just lazy when it comes to sourcing, my fault.</dd> <dd>(Oh and by the way, regarding Western IPA transcriptions, I have been a bit busy in the past couple months but in a week or two I think I should get enough time to adjust the whole thing as we agreed.) Cheers! 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230216114700-Stévan-20230216113600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:47, 16 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230216114700-Stévan-20230216113600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230216114700-Stévan-20230216113600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stévan-20230628181900-IvanScrooge98-20230216114700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98">IvanScrooge98</a>, BTW: at the time of that talk I got something to send you about distinctivity of [h] and [s] in some Eastern varieties... I found you on TLG but forgot to send it, and now I can't find you anymore.</dd> <dd>Should I search better or did you quit? <a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:St%C3%A9van" title="User talk:Stévan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Stévan-20230628181900-IvanScrooge98-20230216114700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:19, 28 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stévan-20230628181900-IvanScrooge98-20230216114700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stévan-20230628181900-IvanScrooge98-20230216114700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230628182500-Stévan-20230628181900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a>:</span> hi there! Not sure what you refer to by TLG, do you mean Telegram? Because I’ve never been there to begin with. Btw sorry again for taking so long to adjust the whole IPA thing; too many things going on. 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230628182500-Stévan-20230628181900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 28 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230628182500-Stévan-20230628181900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230628182500-Stévan-20230628181900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stévan-20230628201800-IvanScrooge98-20230628182500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98">IvanScrooge98</a> Yes, I thought it was that.... you got such as the same nickname, or similar.</dd> <dd>No problem with IPA, it's not an urgency. <a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:St%C3%A9van" title="User talk:Stévan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Stévan-20230628201800-IvanScrooge98-20230628182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 28 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stévan-20230628201800-IvanScrooge98-20230628182500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stévan-20230628201800-IvanScrooge98-20230628182500"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230628214500-Stévan-20230628201800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a>:</span> uhm, it worries me that there was (is?) someone with the same nickname elsewhere, since I had trouble with a stalker earlier on. Hope that’s nothing to do with this. 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230628214500-Stévan-20230628201800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 28 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230628214500-Stévan-20230628201800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230628214500-Stévan-20230628201800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stévan-20230630144100-IvanScrooge98-20230628214500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98">IvanScrooge98</a> But consider I might even be wrong (that was months ago)... or maybe I just saw it somewhere else. <a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:St%C3%A9van" title="User talk:Stévan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Stévan-20230630144100-IvanScrooge98-20230628214500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 30 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stévan-20230630144100-IvanScrooge98-20230628214500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stévan-20230630144100-IvanScrooge98-20230628214500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stévan-20230630145600-Stévan-20230630144100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98">IvanScrooge98</a> Anyway, this is the part of Sanga's <i>Dialettologia lombarda</i>, that I mentioned but couldn't recall exactly at that time, in which he tells about a couple cases of distincitivity between [s] and [h]: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://ibb.co/T2H7d5F">https://ibb.co/T2H7d5F</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:St%C3%A9van" title="User talk:Stévan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Stévan-20230630145600-Stévan-20230630144100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 30 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stévan-20230630145600-Stévan-20230630144100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stévan-20230630145600-Stévan-20230630144100"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230630151700-Stévan-20230630145600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a>:</span> that’s interesting – I referenced parts of this very work for my graduation thesis – but this particular case may be a bit too specific to be relevant enough for <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Lombard" title="Help:IPA/Lombard">Help:IPA/Lombard</a>, if this was your idea. Great input though! Actually I think we could and should use Sanga’s helpful phonological work to expand the relative sections at <a href="/wiki/Eastern_Lombard" class="mw-redirect" title="Eastern Lombard">Eastern Lombard</a>, <a href="/wiki/Western_Lombard" class="mw-redirect" title="Western Lombard">Western Lombard</a> and <a href="/wiki/Lombard_language" title="Lombard language">Lombard language</a> (the latter two definitely need improvement). 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230630151700-Stévan-20230630145600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 30 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230630151700-Stévan-20230630145600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230630151700-Stévan-20230630145600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stévan-20230630153500-IvanScrooge98-20230630151700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98">IvanScrooge98</a> It's totally irrelevant... I'm linking it just because you asked about what and where it was. <a href="/wiki/User:St%C3%A9van" title="User:Stévan">Stévan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:St%C3%A9van" title="User talk:Stévan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Stévan-20230630153500-IvanScrooge98-20230630151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 30 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stévan-20230630153500-IvanScrooge98-20230630151700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stévan-20230630153500-IvanScrooge98-20230630151700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_23" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_23-20230223060200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_23-20230223060200"></span>Disambiguation link notification for February 23<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_23-20230223060200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for February 23"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-20230223060200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_23"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Faro_Point" title="Faro Point">Faro Point</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Trinacria" class="mw-disambig" title="Trinacria">Trinacria</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-DPL_bot-20230223060200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 23 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-20230223060200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_23"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-20230223060200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_23"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Italian_IPA_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Italian_IPA_request-20230303174600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Italian_IPA_request-20230303174600"></span>Italian IPA request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Italian_IPA_request-20230303174600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Italian IPA request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Festucalex-20230303174600-Italian_IPA_request"></span>Hello, You recently provided Italian IPA for the article I created, <a href="/wiki/Bruno_Fanciullacci" title="Bruno Fanciullacci">Bruno Fanciullacci</a>. Would you please provide here the IPA of the names "Tosca Bucarelli Martini" and "Elio Chianesi"? </p><p><span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Festucalex" title="User:Festucalex">Festucalex</a>: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Festucalex" title="User talk:Festucalex">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Festucalex" title="Special:Contributions/Festucalex">contribs</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Festucalex-20230303174600-Italian_IPA_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 3 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Festucalex-20230303174600-Italian_IPA_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Festucalex-20230303174600-Italian_IPA_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230304111600-Festucalex-20230303174600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Festucalex" title="User:Festucalex">Festucalex</a>:</span> hi there! The names are pronounced <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="it-Latn-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Italian" title="Help:IPA/Italian">[ˈtoska<span class="wrap"> </span>bukaˈrɛlli<span class="wrap"> </span>marˈtiːni,<span class="wrap"> </span>ˈtɔs-]</a></span> and <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1177148991">.mw-parser-output .IPA-label-small{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-small{font-size:100%}</style><span class="IPA-label IPA-label-small">Italian pronunciation:</span> <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="it-Latn-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Italian" title="Help:IPA/Italian">[ˈɛːljo<span class="wrap"> </span>kjaˈneːzi,<span class="wrap"> </span>-eːsi]</a></span>. Keep up the good work! 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230304111600-Festucalex-20230303174600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 4 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230304111600-Festucalex-20230303174600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230304111600-Festucalex-20230303174600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Festucalex-20230304133500-IvanScrooge98-20230304111600"></span>Thank you! <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Festucalex" title="User:Festucalex">Festucalex</a>: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Festucalex" title="User talk:Festucalex">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Festucalex" title="Special:Contributions/Festucalex">contribs</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Festucalex-20230304133500-IvanScrooge98-20230304111600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:35, 4 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Festucalex-20230304133500-IvanScrooge98-20230304111600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Festucalex-20230304133500-IvanScrooge98-20230304111600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_7" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_7-20230407061000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_7-20230407061000"></span>Disambiguation link notification for April 7<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_7-20230407061000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for April 7"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-20230407061000-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_7"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Barbara_MacGahan" title="Barbara MacGahan">Barbara MacGahan</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/New_York" class="mw-disambig" title="New York">New York</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-DPL_bot-20230407061000-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:10, 7 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-20230407061000-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_7"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-20230407061000-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_7"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ferdinand_Magellan_and_Vitus_Bering" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ferdinand_Magellan_and_Vitus_Bering-20230410030300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ferdinand_Magellan_and_Vitus_Bering-20230410030300"></span><a href="/wiki/Ferdinand_Magellan" title="Ferdinand Magellan">Ferdinand Magellan</a> and <a href="/wiki/Vitus_Bering" title="Vitus Bering">Vitus Bering</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ferdinand_Magellan_and_Vitus_Bering-20230410030300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Ferdinand Magellan and Vitus Bering"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sol505000-20230410030300-Ferdinand_Magellan_and_Vitus_Bering"></span>Hi. Regarding <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ferdinand_Magellan&diff=prev&oldid=1145318793&diffmode=source">[1]</a>, there is no lenition after nasal vowels in Portuguese. The correct European Portuguese transcription of <i>Fernão de Magalhães</i> is <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="pt-Latn-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Portuguese" title="Help:IPA/Portuguese">[fɨɾˈnɐ̃w<span class="wrap"> </span>dɨ<span class="wrap"> </span>mɐɣɐˈʎɐ̃jʃ]</a></span>. Imagine if the Spanish name were <i>Hernán de Magallanes</i> (which is not far-fetched; <i>Hernán</i> is etymologically related to <i>Fernando</i>): the final <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/n/</span> would have the same effect on the initial <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/d/</span> of <i>de</i>, blocking lenition: <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="es-Latn-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Spanish" title="Help:IPA/Spanish">[eɾˈnan<span class="wrap"> </span>de<span class="wrap"> </span>maɣaˈʎanes]</a></span>. </p><p>Regarding <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vitus_Bering&diff=prev&oldid=1149003924&diffmode=source">[2]</a>, there is no ⟨<span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA" lang="und-Latn-fonipa">ɪ</span>⟩ in <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Danish" title="Help:IPA/Danish">Help:IPA/Danish</a>. The syllabic vowels in <i>Bering</i> are the same: <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="da-Latn-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Danish" title="Help:IPA/Danish">[ˈpe̝(ː)ɐ̯e̝ŋ]</a></span>. <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[<a href="/wiki/Near-close_near-front_unrounded_vowel" title="Near-close near-front unrounded vowel">ɪ</a>]</span> is the usual pronunciation of the underlying <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/jə/</span> - see <a href="/wiki/Danish_phonology#Schwa-assimilation" title="Danish phonology">Danish phonology#Schwa-assimilation</a> for more information. <a href="/wiki/User:Sol505000" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sol505000">Sol505000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sol505000" title="User talk:Sol505000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sol505000-20230410030300-Ferdinand_Magellan_and_Vitus_Bering" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:03, 10 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sol505000-20230410030300-Ferdinand_Magellan_and_Vitus_Bering"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sol505000-20230410030300-Ferdinand_Magellan_and_Vitus_Bering"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230410092900-Sol505000-20230410030300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sol505000" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sol505000">Sol505000</a>:</span> my bad, made the edits too lightheartedly.</dd></dl></dd> <dd>〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230410092900-Sol505000-20230410030300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:29, 10 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230410092900-Sol505000-20230410030300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230410092900-Sol505000-20230410030300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IPA_needed_(again)" data-mw-thread-id="h-IPA_needed_(again)-20230517074300"><span id="IPA_needed_.28again.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IPA_needed_(again)-20230517074300"></span>IPA needed (again)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IPA_needed_(again)-20230517074300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: IPA needed (again)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Festucalex-20230517074300-IPA_needed_(again)"></span>I come to you again for some IPA. I'm improving <a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Cerro_Cor%C3%A1" title="Battle of Cerro Corá">Battle of Cerro Corá</a>, and I need an IPA for that. Can you help, please? Thanks again for <a href="/wiki/Bruno_Fanciullacci" title="Bruno Fanciullacci">Bruno Fanciullacci</a>, by the way. <span style="border:1px solid;padding:2px 6px;font-variant:small-caps"><b>〜 <a href="/wiki/User:Festucalex" title="User:Festucalex"><span style="color:#3cb400">Festucalex</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Festucalex" title="User talk:Festucalex"><span style="color:#ff007f">talk</span></a></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Festucalex-20230517074300-IPA_needed_(again)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:43, 17 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Festucalex-20230517074300-IPA_needed_(again)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Festucalex-20230517074300-IPA_needed_(again)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230517074700-Festucalex-20230517074300"></span>Doing it right away! And don’t even mention it :) 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230517074700-Festucalex-20230517074300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 17 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230517074700-Festucalex-20230517074300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230517074700-Festucalex-20230517074300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Festucalex-20230517075500-IvanScrooge98-20230517074700"></span>Thanks a ton! <span style="border:1px solid;padding:2px 6px;font-variant:small-caps"><b>〜 <a href="/wiki/User:Festucalex" title="User:Festucalex"><span style="color:#3cb400">Festucalex</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Festucalex" title="User talk:Festucalex"><span style="color:#ff007f">talk</span></a></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Festucalex-20230517075500-IvanScrooge98-20230517074700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 17 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Festucalex-20230517075500-IvanScrooge98-20230517074700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Festucalex-20230517075500-IvanScrooge98-20230517074700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Egyptian_Arabic_pronunciation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Egyptian_Arabic_pronunciation-20230520031900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Egyptian_Arabic_pronunciation-20230520031900"></span>Egyptian Arabic pronunciation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Egyptian_Arabic_pronunciation-20230520031900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Egyptian Arabic pronunciation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Esperfulmo-20230520031900-Egyptian_Arabic_pronunciation"></span>Hi. Please, notice that your <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koshary&diff=1036773161&oldid=1031644900">edit</a> in <i>Koshari</i> introduced the wrong open vowel for an Egyptian Arabic word notated in IPA for the Egyptian Arabic pronunciation, not any other language. In the <a href="/wiki/Egyptian_Arabic_phonology" title="Egyptian Arabic phonology">Egyptian Arabic phonology</a>, the rules for the front versus the back open vowel is unexpected for non-natives and there is no rule that says all R's get the back variant. Many words can have either depending on the lexeme or only have one variant. It seems you've learned some Arabic, but that doesn't seem to be quite close to anything resembling Egyptian Arabic, if you thought the choice of the back vowel was correct. I was the one who <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koshary&diff=398521854&oldid=397615248">created the pronunciation</a> notation in the first place as a native speaker to explain to non-natives how it is properly pronounced in Egyptian Arabic. Thanks. <small>--<a href="/wiki/User:Esperfulmo" title="User:Esperfulmo">Esperfulmo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Esperfulmo" title="User talk:Esperfulmo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Esperfulmo-20230520031900-Egyptian_Arabic_pronunciation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:19, 20 May 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Esperfulmo-20230520031900-Egyptian_Arabic_pronunciation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Esperfulmo-20230520031900-Egyptian_Arabic_pronunciation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230520070500-Esperfulmo-20230520031900"></span>Oh gosh. Thanks a lot!</dd></dl></dd> <dd>〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230520070500-Esperfulmo-20230520031900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:05, 20 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230520070500-Esperfulmo-20230520031900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230520070500-Esperfulmo-20230520031900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you-20230523005200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you-20230523005200"></span>A barnstar for you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you-20230523005200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emreculha-20230523005200-A_barnstar_for_you"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Eurovision_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Eurovision_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Eurovision_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Eurovision_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Eurovision_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Eurovision_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Eurovision_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Eurovision Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">For your labours regarding Eurovision articles. I prefer 12 points instead of this but my country did not join the competition anymore :) Grazie <a href="/wiki/User:Emreculha" title="User:Emreculha">Emreculha</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emreculha" title="User talk:Emreculha">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Emreculha-20230523005200-A_barnstar_for_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emreculha-20230523005200-A_barnstar_for_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emreculha-20230523005200-A_barnstar_for_you"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230523070200-Emreculha-20230523005200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Emreculha" title="User:Emreculha">Emreculha</a>:</span> thanks a lot! Hopefully Turkey will be back soon and we will be able to exchange <span title="French-language text"><i lang="fr">douze points</i></span>! 🇹🇷 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230523070200-Emreculha-20230523005200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:02, 23 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230523070200-Emreculha-20230523005200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230523070200-Emreculha-20230523005200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_tagging" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_tagging-20230606185200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_tagging-20230606185200"></span>Speedy tagging<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_tagging-20230606185200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Speedy tagging"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bbb23-20230606185200-Speedy_tagging"></span>You tagged <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Eurovision_2024_Possible_Entries&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Eurovision 2024 Possible Entries (page does not exist)">Draft:Eurovision 2024 Possible Entries</a> as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G2" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G2">WP:G2</a>, and it was declined. You then re-tagged it, which is a violation of policy and disruptive. I reverted the tag. Don't do it again.--<a href="/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bbb23" title="User talk:Bbb23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Bbb23-20230606185200-Speedy_tagging" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:52, 6 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bbb23-20230606185200-Speedy_tagging"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bbb23-20230606185200-Speedy_tagging"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230606185700-Bbb23-20230606185200"></span>My bad. 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230606185700-Bbb23-20230606185200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230606185700-Bbb23-20230606185200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230606185700-Bbb23-20230606185200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2024_eurovision" data-mw-thread-id="h-2024_eurovision-20230613155700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2024_eurovision-20230613155700"></span>2024 eurovision<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2024_eurovision-20230613155700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: 2024 eurovision"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ropesman-20230613155700-2024_eurovision"></span>Is this : <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://escxtra.com/2023/06/13/only-three-swedish-cities-bid-to-host-eurovision-2024/">https://escxtra.com/2023/06/13/only-three-swedish-cities-bid-to-host-eurovision-2024/</a> source reliable enough to say that Malmö bid on hosting esc 2024? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ropesman&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ropesman (page does not exist)">Ropesman</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ropesman&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ropesman (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Ropesman-20230613155700-2024_eurovision" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 13 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ropesman-20230613155700-2024_eurovision"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ropesman-20230613155700-2024_eurovision"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230613161500-Ropesman-20230613155700"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ropesman&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ropesman (page does not exist)">Ropesman</a>:</span> this is the one that had been used earlier in the article but it has been challenged since it sources an unofficial Twitter account that does not seem very accurate. SVT has not yet reported so I think we should just wait for more reliable sources.</dd></dl></dd> <dd>〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:black" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20230613161500-Ropesman-20230613155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 13 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20230613161500-Ropesman-20230613155700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20230613161500-Ropesman-20230613155700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ropesman-20230613161700-IvanScrooge98-20230613161500"></span>Okay, thanks for the reply. Good luck further <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ropesman&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ropesman (page does not exist)">Ropesman</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ropesman&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ropesman (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Ropesman-20230613161700-IvanScrooge98-20230613161500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 13 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ropesman-20230613161700-IvanScrooge98-20230613161500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ropesman-20230613161700-IvanScrooge98-20230613161500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_has_been_accepted" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Cont-20230626211200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Cont-20230626211200"></span>Your submission at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">Articles for creation</a>: <a href="/wiki/Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024" title="Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024">Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024</a> has been accepted<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Cont-20230626211200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Your submission at Articles for creation: Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 has been accepted"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border:solid 1px #57DB1E; background:#E6FFE6; padding:1em; padding-top:0.5em; padding-bottom:0.5em; width:20em; color:black; margin-bottom: 1.5em; width: 90%;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chetsford-20230626211200-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Cont"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:AFC-Logo.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/AFC-Logo.svg/50px-AFC-Logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/AFC-Logo.svg/75px-AFC-Logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/AFC-Logo.svg/100px-AFC-Logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <b><a href="/wiki/Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024" title="Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024">Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024</a>, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.</b><br/> <p>Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! 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</p> <a href="/wiki/User:Chetsford" title="User:Chetsford">Chetsford</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetsford" title="User talk:Chetsford">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Chetsford-20230626211200-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Cont" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 26 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chetsford-20230626211200-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Cont"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chetsford-20230626211200-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Cont"></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_(June_30)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest-20230630161700"><span id="Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_.28June_30.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest-20230630161700"></span>Your submission at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">Articles for creation</a>: <a href="/wiki/Draft:Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024">Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024</a> (June 30)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest-20230630161700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Your submission at Articles for creation: Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 (June 30)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20230630161700-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/AFC-Logo_Decline.svg/50px-AFC-Logo_Decline.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/AFC-Logo_Decline.svg/75px-AFC-Logo_Decline.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/AFC-Logo_Decline.svg/100px-AFC-Logo_Decline.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Your recent article submission to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">Articles for Creation</a> has been reviewed. 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You can find it and improve it at <a href="/wiki/Melodifestivalen_2024" title="Melodifestivalen 2024">Melodifestivalen 2024</a> instead.</div> The comment the reviewer left was: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r890676480"><div class="metadata divbox divbox-blue">Please compare and combine the articles. Also please discuss whether the title should be <a href="/wiki/Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024" title="Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024">Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024</a> or <a href="/wiki/Melodifestivalen_2024" title="Melodifestivalen 2024">Melodifestivalen 2024</a>, but only one article is in order.</div> Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Doniago" title="User:Doniago">DonIago</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doniago" title="User talk:Doniago">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Doniago-20230713203500-July_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doniago-20230713203500-July_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doniago-20230713203500-July_2023"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation-20230721075000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation-20230721075000"></span>Invitation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation-20230721075000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Invitation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border:2px solid #90C0FF; background:#F0F0FF; width:99%; padding:4px"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230721075000-Invitation"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/175px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png" decoding="async" width="175" height="175" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/263px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/350px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello IvanScrooge98! </p> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">New Pages Patrol</a> is currently struggling to keep up with the influx of new articles needing review. We could use a few extra hands to help.</li> <li>We think that someone with your activity and experience is very likely to meet the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers#Guidelines_for_granting" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers">guidelines for granting</a>.</li> <li>Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time, but it requires a strong understanding of Wikipedia’s CSD policy and notability guidelines.</li> <li>Kindly read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">the tutorial</a> before making your decision, and feel free to post on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:NPPR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:NPPR">project talk page</a> with questions.</li> <li>If patrolling new pages is something you'd be willing to help out with, please consider <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PERM/NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PERM/NPP"><b>applying here</b></a>.</li></ul> <p>Thank you for your consideration. We hope to see you around! </p> </div> <p>Sent by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zippybonzo">Zippybonzo</a></span> using <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230721075000-Invitation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:50, 21 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230721075000-Invitation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230721075000-Invitation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Italy_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_(July_22)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Italy_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2-20230722052200"><span id="Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Italy_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024_.28July_22.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Italy_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2-20230722052200"></span>Your submission at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">Articles for creation</a>: <a href="/wiki/Draft:Italy_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Italy in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024">Italy in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024</a> (July 22)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Italy_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2-20230722052200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Your submission at Articles for creation: Italy in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 (July 22)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20230722052200-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Italy_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/AFC-Logo_Decline.svg/50px-AFC-Logo_Decline.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/AFC-Logo_Decline.svg/75px-AFC-Logo_Decline.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/AFC-Logo_Decline.svg/100px-AFC-Logo_Decline.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Your recent article submission to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">Articles for Creation</a> has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r890676480"><div class="metadata divbox divbox-gray">Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at <a href="/wiki/Sanremo_Music_Festival_2024" title="Sanremo Music Festival 2024">Sanremo Music Festival 2024</a> instead.</div> The comment the reviewer left was: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r890676480"><div class="metadata divbox divbox-blue">Please compare and merge.</div> Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. 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I thought you might want to know. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8" title="Special:Contributions/2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8">2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8-20231025204800-Irish_IPA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:48, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8-20231025204800-Irish_IPA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8-20231025204800-Irish_IPA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231025205400-2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8-20231025204800"></span>If you indicate me what these pronunciations are I will take a look. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231025205400-2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8-20231025204800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231025205400-2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8-20231025204800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231025205400-2A01:B340:85:3BCC:598A:C977:F47B:46A8-20231025204800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Music_competition" data-mw-thread-id="h-Music_competition-20231026200300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Music_competition-20231026200300"></span>Music competition<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Music_competition-20231026200300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Music competition"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fekk-20231026200300-Music_competition"></span>Hi. I saw you put a lot of effort in the article about Festivali i Këngës in Kosovo. There used to be a similar competition in Kosovo before. There is even a section about that on Wikipedia: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_composition_and_composers_in_Pristina#Akordet_e_Kosov%C3%ABs_%28Chords_of_Kosovo%29">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_composition_and_composers_in_Pristina#Akordet_e_Kosov%C3%ABs_%28Chords_of_Kosovo%29</a>. Here is also the website of that festival for more background <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://festakordet.com/en/start.html">https://festakordet.com/en/start.html</a>. Thank you for your effort! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fekk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fekk (page does not exist)">Fekk</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fekk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Fekk (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Fekk-20231026200300-Music_competition" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 26 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fekk-20231026200300-Music_competition"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fekk-20231026200300-Music_competition"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231026201100-Fekk-20231026200300"></span>Thanks for pointing that out! 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Could you please do the it-IPA for: <a href="/wiki/Enio_Mora" title="Enio Mora">Enio Mora</a>, <a href="/wiki/Gaetano_Panepinto" title="Gaetano Panepinto">Gaetano Panepinto</a>, <a href="/wiki/Francesco_Del_Balso" title="Francesco Del Balso">Francesco Del Balso</a>, <a href="/wiki/Michele_Modica" title="Michele Modica">Michele Modica</a>, <a href="/wiki/Martino_Caputo" title="Martino Caputo">Martino Caputo</a>, <a href="/wiki/Nick_Nero" title="Nick Nero">Nick Nero</a>. Thanks! <b><a href="/wiki/User:Vaselineeeeeeee" title="User:Vaselineeeeeeee"><b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b></a><sup><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vaselineeeeeeee" title="User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee"><span style="color:gold">★★★</span></a></small></sup></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Vaselineeeeeeee-20231123175900-IPA_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 23 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vaselineeeeeeee-20231123175900-IPA_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vaselineeeeeeee-20231123175900-IPA_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231123183000-Vaselineeeeeeee-20231123175900"></span>Hey there! I’m good, hope the same for you. 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What in that edit made it necessarily worthy of being reverted? Is there some new consensus on national final tables, formats? Why delete the links to the participants in the semi-finals section? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Agwjkl&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Agwjkl (page does not exist)">Agwjkl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Agwjkl" title="User talk:Agwjkl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Agwjkl-20231205172400-Malta_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Agwjkl-20231205172400-Malta_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Agwjkl-20231205172400-Malta_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231205173100-Agwjkl-20231205172400"></span>Oof I’m sorry, the automatic edit comparison made it look messy. I just wanted to keep the tables more consistent with each other through the various ESC 2024 articles I’m editing. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231205173100-Agwjkl-20231205172400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231205173100-Agwjkl-20231205172400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231205173100-Agwjkl-20231205172400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Silia_Kapsis" data-mw-thread-id="h-Silia_Kapsis-20231207054600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Silia_Kapsis-20231207054600"></span>Silia Kapsis<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Silia_Kapsis-20231207054600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Silia Kapsis"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Becca05-20231207054600-Silia_Kapsis"></span>Hello Thank you for taking the time to contribute to Silia's Wikipedia page, it's much appreciated. However you reverted my edit which you should not have done. I have edited it back to what it should be, so please do not change it again. Silia's full birth name is Vasiliki Silia Kapsis (this is on her birth certificate and this is the name she was baptised with). You also reverted my edit regarding Claremont College. (Silia was awarded the award at the Claremont College which is located in NSW Sydney Australia and not the Claremnont College in Tasmania). And once again, I do appreciate your time in contributing to Silia's page, but please make sure the facts are correct. Thank you for your understanding. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Becca05&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Becca05 (page does not exist)">Becca05</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Becca05&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Becca05 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Becca05-20231207054600-Silia_Kapsis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:46, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Becca05-20231207054600-Silia_Kapsis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Becca05-20231207054600-Silia_Kapsis"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207083400-Becca05-20231207054600"></span>I understand, but you need a citation to demonstrate that this is her full name. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231207083400-Becca05-20231207054600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:34, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207083400-Becca05-20231207054600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207083400-Becca05-20231207054600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-1.141.146.225-20231207102600-IvanScrooge98-20231207083400"></span>It is in the first citation <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://eurovisionfun.com/en/2023/09/cyprus-silia-kapsis-will-represent-the-country-in-malmo-with-a-song-by-dimitris-kontopoulos/">https://eurovisionfun.com/en/2023/09/cyprus-silia-kapsis-will-represent-the-country-in-malmo-with-a-song-by-dimitris-kontopoulos/</a> - It states Vasiliki (Silia) Kapsis in the article.</dd> <dd>I am her mother, please stop reverting my edit.</dd> <dd>Thank you <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/1.141.146.225" title="Special:Contributions/1.141.146.225">1.141.146.225</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:1.141.146.225&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:1.141.146.225 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-1.141.146.225-20231207102600-IvanScrooge98-20231207083400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:26, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-1.141.146.225-20231207102600-IvanScrooge98-20231207083400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-1.141.146.225-20231207102600-IvanScrooge98-20231207083400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207103600-1.141.146.225-20231207102600"></span>Exactly. It’s in parentheses, which means it’s a nickname, not her second name. How am I supposed to just believe you are her mother? ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231207103600-1.141.146.225-20231207102600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:36, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207103600-1.141.146.225-20231207102600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207103600-1.141.146.225-20231207102600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pluto160168-20231207104300-IvanScrooge98-20231207103600"></span>Silia, is in parenthesis because this is what they call her, but her actual birth name is Vasiliki Silia Kapsis. I know I gave birth to her :) I must say, I am so glad you are thorough and that you have contributed to Silia's Wiki page, I appreciate it and it makes me feel very comfortable that you are diligent in your work, bravo. Happy to show you somehow I am her mum, not sure how that would work, let me know? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pluto160168&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pluto160168 (page does not exist)">Pluto160168</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pluto160168" title="User talk:Pluto160168">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Pluto160168-20231207104300-IvanScrooge98-20231207103600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pluto160168-20231207104300-IvanScrooge98-20231207103600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pluto160168-20231207104300-IvanScrooge98-20231207103600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207105800-Pluto160168-20231207104300"></span>If it was meant to be the second name, I doubt they would put it in brackets. In any case, the only thing you can do is citing an independent source clearly stating that. Your identity and alleged personal relation to the subject is unfortunately meaningless here on Wikipedia. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VERIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VERIFY">WP:VERIFY</a>. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231207105800-Pluto160168-20231207104300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207105800-Pluto160168-20231207104300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207105800-Pluto160168-20231207104300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pluto160168-20231207110600-IvanScrooge98-20231207105800"></span>Ok thank you, I didn't realise that by having Silia's name in brackets would be a problem. I actually provided her name to the reporter that way. It was put in brackets to show that this is the name that people call her and not her full birth name. In any case, thank you for letting me know.</dd> <dd>Could I ask you another question since you are on top of things. How would I add Silia's photo on Wikipedia? Can you please advise? I would appreciate your knowledge. Thank you <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pluto160168&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pluto160168 (page does not exist)">Pluto160168</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pluto160168" title="User talk:Pluto160168">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Pluto160168-20231207110600-IvanScrooge98-20231207105800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pluto160168-20231207110600-IvanScrooge98-20231207105800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pluto160168-20231207110600-IvanScrooge98-20231207105800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207111700-Pluto160168-20231207110600"></span>You’re welcome. Sorry for being a bit harsh, you actually seem goodwilled. You can upload a picture here on Wikipedia (at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:File_upload_wizard" title="Wikipedia:File upload wizard">Wikipedia:File upload wizard</a>) if it’s not free and someone owns rights to it; or, if the image is free or you own its rights and decide to make the file free to use, on the dedicated platform for free files <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="commons:">Commons</a>. Make sure to provide all the info required when uploading. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231207111700-Pluto160168-20231207110600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207111700-Pluto160168-20231207110600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207111700-Pluto160168-20231207110600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pluto160168-20231207112300-IvanScrooge98-20231207111700"></span>It's ok, I totally understand. You are being cautious and I appreciate it. In any case, I'll see if I can get it fixed somehow.</dd> <dd>Regarding the image- Thank you for replying, it's much appreciated!</dd> <dd>Have a wonderful day :) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pluto160168&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pluto160168 (page does not exist)">Pluto160168</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pluto160168" title="User talk:Pluto160168">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Pluto160168-20231207112300-IvanScrooge98-20231207111700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:23, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pluto160168-20231207112300-IvanScrooge98-20231207111700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pluto160168-20231207112300-IvanScrooge98-20231207111700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207112900-Pluto160168-20231207112300"></span>Thanks a lot, have a great day too! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231207112900-Pluto160168-20231207112300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207112900-Pluto160168-20231207112300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231207112900-Pluto160168-20231207112300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231208102400-Pluto160168-20231207112300"></span>I found a source where for each song the writers' complete names are listed. I think it could work ;) ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231208102400-Pluto160168-20231207112300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231208102400-Pluto160168-20231207112300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231208102400-Pluto160168-20231207112300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pluto160168-20231208132700-IvanScrooge98-20231208102400"></span>Thank you so much, I really appreciate you looking into this and updating the birth name. You are wonderful! Have a lovely day! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pluto160168&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pluto160168 (page does not exist)">Pluto160168</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pluto160168" title="User talk:Pluto160168">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Pluto160168-20231208132700-IvanScrooge98-20231208102400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pluto160168-20231208132700-IvanScrooge98-20231208102400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pluto160168-20231208132700-IvanScrooge98-20231208102400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231208133700-Pluto160168-20231208132700"></span>No problem really! Let me know if you have any doubts for the file upload :) ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231208133700-Pluto160168-20231208132700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231208133700-Pluto160168-20231208132700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231208133700-Pluto160168-20231208132700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pluto160168-20231217041500-IvanScrooge98-20231208133700"></span>Hello again</dd> <dd>I hope all is well. I have just added a citation (6) and I am unsure if I have added it correctly. Would you be so kind as to check it? I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pluto160168&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pluto160168 (page does not exist)">Pluto160168</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pluto160168" title="User talk:Pluto160168">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Pluto160168-20231217041500-IvanScrooge98-20231208133700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 17 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pluto160168-20231217041500-IvanScrooge98-20231208133700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pluto160168-20231217041500-IvanScrooge98-20231208133700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200-Pluto160168-20231217041500"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span>! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200-Pluto160168-20231217041500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:32, 17 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200-Pluto160168-20231217041500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200-Pluto160168-20231217041500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pluto160168-20231217221700-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200"></span>Thank you! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pluto160168&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pluto160168 (page does not exist)">Pluto160168</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pluto160168" title="User talk:Pluto160168">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Pluto160168-20231217221700-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 17 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pluto160168-20231217221700-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pluto160168-20231217221700-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pluto160168-20231219023000-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200"></span>One last question, at the top of Silia Kapsis's Wiki page, there is a template message. If you think it should be removed, please feel free to do so. I'm not sure if it still should be there or not. Thank you so much <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pluto160168&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pluto160168 (page does not exist)">Pluto160168</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pluto160168" title="User talk:Pluto160168">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Pluto160168-20231219023000-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 19 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pluto160168-20231219023000-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pluto160168-20231219023000-IvanScrooge98-20231217103200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231219092700-Pluto160168-20231219023000"></span>I haven’t dared to remove it so far since I wasn’t the one who added it but I think you’re right, it looks like there’s enough refs now. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231219092700-Pluto160168-20231219023000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:27, 19 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231219092700-Pluto160168-20231219023000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231219092700-Pluto160168-20231219023000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pluto160168-20231219093400-IvanScrooge98-20231219092700"></span>Thank you! If you think it is ok to remove it and you think there are enough refs, please do so. I don't think I can remove it because of the conflict of interest (as per the Wiki rules) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pluto160168&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pluto160168 (page does not exist)">Pluto160168</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pluto160168" title="User talk:Pluto160168">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Pluto160168-20231219093400-IvanScrooge98-20231219092700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:34, 19 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pluto160168-20231219093400-IvanScrooge98-20231219092700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pluto160168-20231219093400-IvanScrooge98-20231219092700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231219093600-Pluto160168-20231219093400"></span>You’re welcome! And thank you for all your kind words. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231219093600-Pluto160168-20231219093400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:36, 19 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231219093600-Pluto160168-20231219093400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231219093600-Pluto160168-20231219093400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pluto160168-20231219094000-IvanScrooge98-20231219093600"></span>Wow! You did it already, absolutely amazing, thank you once again. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pluto160168&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pluto160168 (page does not exist)">Pluto160168</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pluto160168" title="User talk:Pluto160168">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Pluto160168-20231219094000-IvanScrooge98-20231219093600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 19 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pluto160168-20231219094000-IvanScrooge98-20231219093600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pluto160168-20231219094000-IvanScrooge98-20231219093600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hong_Kong_names" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hong_Kong_names-20231218093000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hong_Kong_names-20231218093000"></span>Hong Kong names<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hong_Kong_names-20231218093000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Hong Kong names"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Pinyin" title="Pinyin"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Northern_Moonlight-20231218093000-Hong_Kong_names"></span>Pinyin</a> is the romanization standard for <a href="/wiki/Mandarin" class="mw-disambig" title="Mandarin">Mandarin Chinese</a> and not <a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong_Cantonese" title="Hong Kong Cantonese">Cantonese</a>. If you would like to add romanizations, please use either <a href="/wiki/Jyutping" title="Jyutping">Jyutping</a> (preferred) or <a href="/wiki/Yale_romanization_of_Cantonese" title="Yale romanization of Cantonese">Yale romanization</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Northern_Moonlight" title="User:Northern Moonlight"><span style="font-family:system-ui,Inter,-apple-system,sans-serif;background-color:#f3f3fe;padding:2px 5px;border-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">NM</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Northern_Moonlight-20231218093000-Hong_Kong_names" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:30, 18 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Northern_Moonlight-20231218093000-Hong_Kong_names"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Northern_Moonlight-20231218093000-Hong_Kong_names"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231218094200-Northern_Moonlight-20231218093000"></span>Got it. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231218094200-Northern_Moonlight-20231218093000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:42, 18 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231218094200-Northern_Moonlight-20231218093000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231218094200-Northern_Moonlight-20231218093000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Eurovision_Articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Eurovision_Articles-20231221183900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Eurovision_Articles-20231221183900"></span>Eurovision Articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Eurovision_Articles-20231221183900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Eurovision Articles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-009988aaabbbccc-20231221183900-Eurovision_Articles"></span>I wrote this kind in ALL of the articles, why did you reverted it? Please return it back. <a href="/wiki/User:009988aaabbbccc" title="User:009988aaabbbccc">009988aaabbbccc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:009988aaabbbccc" title="User talk:009988aaabbbccc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-009988aaabbbccc-20231221183900-Eurovision_Articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 21 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-009988aaabbbccc-20231221183900-Eurovision_Articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-009988aaabbbccc-20231221183900-Eurovision_Articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231221184400-009988aaabbbccc-20231221183900"></span>Sorry, I was going to get to you to explain. Some of the changes were originally made by <a href="/wiki/User:Grk1011" title="User:Grk1011">User:Grk1011</a> at <a href="/wiki/Greece_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024" title="Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024">Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024</a>; shortly after, I created the section in the other 2024 articles accordingly. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20231221184400-009988aaabbbccc-20231221183900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 21 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20231221184400-009988aaabbbccc-20231221183900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20231221184400-009988aaabbbccc-20231221183900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grk1011-20231221193900-IvanScrooge98-20231221184400"></span>Every article that has been expanded to a higher rating (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GA">WP:GA</a> for example) has the opening sentence describing where and when the contest took place. I find it odd to omit that. More recently, related to the edit Ivan noticed, I adjusted the typical second sentence that starts with "According to Eurovision rules"; honestly, it's just not necessary to say according to the rules. To me, it's sort of like well, obviously. Overall though, I think we need to pay attention to and address things that are habit as opposed to requirement. And <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:009988aaabbbccc" title="User:009988aaabbbccc">009988aaabbbccc</a>:</span> I'm sorry that you went through the effort of making those changes only for them to be reverted, but once again, this is the result of you doing mass edits without asking anyone if there would be a problem with it. I've mentioned that to you several times over the last few years and those warnings are still visible on your talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Grk1011" title="User:Grk1011">Grk1011</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grk1011" title="User talk:Grk1011">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Grk1011-20231221193900-IvanScrooge98-20231221184400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 21 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grk1011-20231221193900-IvanScrooge98-20231221184400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grk1011-20231221193900-IvanScrooge98-20231221184400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Eurovision_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Eurovision_edits-20231228111700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Eurovision_edits-20231228111700"></span>Eurovision edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Eurovision_edits-20231228111700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Eurovision edits"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Valereee-20231228111700-Eurovision_edits"></span>Hey, IS98! I hate having to do this, but of course we want to make sure folks are aware. </p><p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Commons-emblem-notice.svg/25px-Commons-emblem-notice.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Commons-emblem-notice.svg/38px-Commons-emblem-notice.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Commons-emblem-notice.svg/50px-Commons-emblem-notice.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> You have recently made edits related to the <a href="/wiki/Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict" title="Arab–Israeli conflict">Arab–Israeli conflict</a>. This is a standard message to inform you that the <a href="/wiki/Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict" title="Arab–Israeli conflict">Arab–Israeli conflict</a> is a designated contentious topic. This message <em>does <strong>not</strong> imply that there are any issues with your editing</em>. Additionally, editors must be logged-in, have <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ECR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ECR">500 edits and an account age of 30 days</a>, and are not allowed to make more than 1 revert on the same page within 24 hours for pages within this topic. For more information about the contentious topics system, please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics" title="Wikipedia:Contentious topics">Wikipedia:Contentious topics</a>. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee">Valereee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Valereee" title="User talk:Valereee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Valereee-20231228111700-Eurovision_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 28 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Valereee-20231228111700-Eurovision_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Valereee-20231228111700-Eurovision_edits"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Aiko_(Czech_singer)_moved_to_draftspace" data-mw-thread-id="h-Aiko_(Czech_singer)_moved_to_draftspace-20240101032800"><span id="Aiko_.28Czech_singer.29_moved_to_draftspace"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Aiko_(Czech_singer)_moved_to_draftspace-20240101032800"></span><a href="/wiki/Draft:Aiko_(Czech_singer)" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Aiko (Czech singer)">Aiko (Czech singer)</a> moved to draftspace<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Aiko_(Czech_singer)_moved_to_draftspace-20240101032800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Aiko (Czech singer) moved to draftspace"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Significa_liberdade-20240101032800-Aiko_(Czech_singer)_moved_to_draftspace"></span>Thanks for your contributions to <a href="/wiki/Draft:Aiko_(Czech_singer)" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Aiko (Czech singer)">Aiko (Czech singer)</a>. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because <b>it needs <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIABLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIABLE">reliable</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INDEPENDENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INDEPENDENT">independent</a> sources to establish notability</b>. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while. </p><p>Please see more information at <a href="/wiki/Help:Unreviewed_new_page" title="Help:Unreviewed new page">Help:Unreviewed new page</a>. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. <a href="/wiki/User:Significa_liberdade" title="User:Significa liberdade">Significa liberdade <small>(she/her)</small></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Significa_liberdade" title="User talk:Significa liberdade">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Significa_liberdade-20240101032800-Aiko_(Czech_singer)_moved_to_draftspace" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:28, 1 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Significa_liberdade-20240101032800-Aiko_(Czech_singer)_moved_to_draftspace"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Significa_liberdade-20240101032800-Aiko_(Czech_singer)_moved_to_draftspace"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Significa_liberdade-20240101184900-Significa_liberdade-20240101032800"></span>Hi, <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98">IvanScrooge98</a>: Please note that this page was not moved to the draft space because of copyright violations. Rather, it was moved because all of the sources on the page are directly related to the subject. As noted in the message I provided, the page needs <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIABLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIABLE">reliable</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INDEPENDENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INDEPENDENT">independent</a> sources to establish notability. Please click the links to see which types of sources help establish <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NMUSICIAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NMUSICIAN">notability for musicians according to Wikipedia's guidelines</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Significa_liberdade" title="User:Significa liberdade">Significa liberdade <small>(she/her)</small></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Significa_liberdade" title="User talk:Significa liberdade">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Significa_liberdade-20240101184900-Significa_liberdade-20240101032800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:49, 1 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Significa_liberdade-20240101184900-Significa_liberdade-20240101032800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Significa_liberdade-20240101184900-Significa_liberdade-20240101032800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240101190000-Significa_liberdade-20240101184900"></span>Hi! I only see one source among those that is particularly close to the subject – i.e. the one from her personal website, for which I’ll be looking for an independent one. The others are third party-sources. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240101190000-Significa_liberdade-20240101184900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:00, 1 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240101190000-Significa_liberdade-20240101184900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240101190000-Significa_liberdade-20240101184900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Eurovisionfun" data-mw-thread-id="h-Eurovisionfun-20240112172300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Eurovisionfun-20240112172300"></span>Eurovisionfun<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Eurovisionfun-20240112172300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Eurovisionfun"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pdhadam-20240112172300-Eurovisionfun"></span>Hi, from looking at various ESC edit history pages I've noticed that you have often cited Eurovisionfun. I'm of the opinion that Eurovisionfun is generally not a reliable source for ESC news other than those related to Greece and Cyprus, and it also often engages with sensationalist reporting. If you can, I suggest citing more trustworthy sources, preferably the originating articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Pdhadam" title="User:Pdhadam">Pdhadam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pdhadam" title="User talk:Pdhadam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Pdhadam-20240112172300-Eurovisionfun" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 12 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pdhadam-20240112172300-Eurovisionfun"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pdhadam-20240112172300-Eurovisionfun"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240112172500-Pdhadam-20240112172300"></span>Hi! I see your point. I often use it as a source for the simple reason it is often the quickest to report news, but I will try to cite more reputable websites when I can. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240112172500-Pdhadam-20240112172300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 12 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240112172500-Pdhadam-20240112172300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240112172500-Pdhadam-20240112172300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_2-20240116060000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_2-20240116060000"></span>I have sent you a note about a page you started<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_2-20240116060000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: I have sent you a note about a page you started"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SunDawn-20240116060000-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_2"></span>Hello, IvanScrooge98. Thank you for your work on <a href="/wiki/Poland_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024" title="Poland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024">Poland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:SunDawn" title="User:SunDawn">SunDawn</a>, while examining this page as a part of our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">page curation process</a>, had the following comments: </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Hello my friend! Good day to you. Thanks for creating the article, I have marked it as reviewed. Have a blessed day!</p></blockquote> <p>To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">{{Re|SunDawn}}</code>. 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background-color: beige;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Broc-20240128145700-A_barnstar_for_you_2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Music_barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Music_barnstar.png/100px-Music_barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="101" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Music_barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="119" data-file-height="120"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Music Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid purple;">For your great contributions to <a href="/wiki/Sanremo_Music_Festival" title="Sanremo Music Festival">Sanremo Music Festival</a>-related articles, and this year's edition <a href="/wiki/Sanremo_Music_Festival_2024" title="Sanremo Music Festival 2024">Sanremo Music Festival 2024</a>. Can't wait to watch the show =) <a href="/wiki/User:Broc" title="User:Broc">Broc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Broc" title="User talk:Broc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Broc-20240128145700-A_barnstar_for_you_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Broc-20240128145700-A_barnstar_for_you_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Broc-20240128145700-A_barnstar_for_you_2"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240128164800-Broc-20240128145700"></span>Thank you so much! 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— <a href="/wiki/User:ImStevan" title="User:ImStevan"><span style="color:#3941ad; font-family:'Franklin Gothic Medium';">IмSтevan</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ImStevan" title="User talk:ImStevan"><sup><span style="font-size:85%; color:#3941ad; font-family:'Franklin Gothic Medium';">talk</span></sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-ImStevan-20240205123900-Alyona" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 5 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ImStevan-20240205123900-Alyona"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ImStevan-20240205123900-Alyona"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240205125400-ImStevan-20240205123900"></span>Look closely under O in the table :) ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240205125400-ImStevan-20240205123900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 5 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240205125400-ImStevan-20240205123900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240205125400-ImStevan-20240205123900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="help_requests_for_Leo_Gullotta_and_others" data-mw-thread-id="h-help_requests_for_Leo_Gullotta_and_others-20240216195900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-help_requests_for_Leo_Gullotta_and_others-20240216195900"></span>help requests for <a href="/wiki/Leo_Gullotta" title="Leo Gullotta">Leo Gullotta</a> and others<span data-mw-comment-end="h-help_requests_for_Leo_Gullotta_and_others-20240216195900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: help requests for Leo Gullotta and others"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-20240216195900-help_requests_for_Leo_Gullotta_and_others"></span>Dearest Ivan, a cordial good evening from Campora San Giovanni. I am writing to greet you and thank you for the help you have given to the page that is so dear to me. <a href="/wiki/Sabrina_Ferilli" title="Sabrina Ferilli">Sabrina Ferilli</a>. I saw you dealt a good hand. Naturally I ask you if you can and want to help me with two articles: <a href="/wiki/Leo_Gullotta" title="Leo Gullotta">Leo Gullotta</a> and his partner <a href="/w/index.php?title=Fabio_Grossi_(actor)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Fabio Grossi (actor) (page does not exist)">Fabio Grossi</a>, I'll start writing something about Fabio then if you help me I will be very grateful. Of course, if you need any favors, feel free to ask, I'm at your complete disposal. <a href="/wiki/User:Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino" title="User:Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino">Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino" title="User talk:Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-20240216195900-help_requests_for_Leo_Gullotta_and_others" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 16 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-20240216195900-help_requests_for_Leo_Gullotta_and_others"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-20240216195900-help_requests_for_Leo_Gullotta_and_others"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240216200400-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-20240216195900"></span>Hello, Luigi! Thanks for your kind words even for the small edits I made to Sabrina Ferilli. I’ll be happy to help out with the English language if this is what you meant. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240216200400-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-20240216195900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240216200400-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-20240216195900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240216200400-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-20240216195900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-20240217110800-IvanScrooge98-20240216200400"></span>HI Ivan, ok, proceed when you think best, I have written the page now <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Fabio_Grossi_(actor)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Fabio Grossi (actor) (page does not exist)">draft:Fabio Grossi (actor)</a>, if you want to help them both, both Fabio and <a href="/wiki/Leo_Gullotta" title="Leo Gullotta">Leo</a>. 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Regarding this edit, it seems strange to me that the English translation is this, since the food isn't a sausage. <a href="/wiki/User:JackkBrown" class="mw-redirect" title="User:JackkBrown">JacktheBrown</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JackkBrown" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:JackkBrown">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-JackkBrown-20240502203700-Edit:_https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sanguinaccio_dolce&diff=prev&" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JackkBrown-20240502203700-Edit:_https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sanguinaccio_dolce&diff=prev&"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JackkBrown-20240502203700-Edit:_https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sanguinaccio_dolce&diff=prev&"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502204300-JackkBrown-20240502203700"></span>That’s what the word <i>sanguinaccio</i> refers to on its own. The link which you changed originally pointed at <a href="/wiki/Blood_sausage#Italy" title="Blood sausage">blood sausage#Italy</a>. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240502204300-JackkBrown-20240502203700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502204300-JackkBrown-20240502203700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502204300-JackkBrown-20240502203700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JackkBrown-20240502224100-IvanScrooge98-20240502204300"></span>which one is correct? "<a href="/wiki/Pig_blood_curd" title="Pig blood curd">Pig blood</a> or <a href="/wiki/Ti_hoeh_koe" class="mw-redirect" title="Ti hoeh koe">pig's blood</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:JackkBrown" class="mw-redirect" title="User:JackkBrown">JacktheBrown</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JackkBrown" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:JackkBrown">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-JackkBrown-20240502224100-IvanScrooge98-20240502204300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JackkBrown-20240502224100-IvanScrooge98-20240502204300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JackkBrown-20240502224100-IvanScrooge98-20240502204300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502224500-JackkBrown-20240502224100"></span>These articles refer to specific Chinese delicacies. I wouldn’t link to any of those in the lead despite the similarities. Again, <i>sanguinaccio</i> refers to a "blood sausage", which is only called "sausage" in English because of its shape. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240502224500-JackkBrown-20240502224100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502224500-JackkBrown-20240502224100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502224500-JackkBrown-20240502224100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800-JackkBrown-20240502224100"></span>I got an idea. We keep the link and change the translation to "blood pudding". ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800-JackkBrown-20240502224100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800-JackkBrown-20240502224100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800-JackkBrown-20240502224100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JackkBrown-20240502225700-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800"></span>no, I mean: "pig blood" (as in the article <a href="/wiki/Pig_blood_curd" title="Pig blood curd">pig blood curd</a>) or "pig's blood" (as in the article <i><a href="/wiki/Ti_hoeh_koe" class="mw-redirect" title="Ti hoeh koe">ti hoeh koe</a></i>)? How is it correct to write it? <a href="/wiki/User:JackkBrown" class="mw-redirect" title="User:JackkBrown">JacktheBrown</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JackkBrown" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:JackkBrown">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-JackkBrown-20240502225700-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JackkBrown-20240502225700-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JackkBrown-20240502225700-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JackkBrown-20240502230100-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>I got an idea. We keep the link and change the translation to "blood pudding".</p></blockquote> I agree. <a href="/wiki/User:JackkBrown" class="mw-redirect" title="User:JackkBrown">JacktheBrown</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JackkBrown" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:JackkBrown">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-JackkBrown-20240502230100-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JackkBrown-20240502230100-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JackkBrown-20240502230100-IvanScrooge98-20240502224800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502230800-JackkBrown-20240502230100"></span>Oh, sorry for misunderstanding. My edit was aimed at having the same form in both instances where it is mentioned in the article, and I thought "pig blood" sounded better. But as a non-native speaker, I guess "pig's blood" might also be fine if it's used elsewhere. Thanks for reaching out! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240502230800-JackkBrown-20240502230100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502230800-JackkBrown-20240502230100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240502230800-JackkBrown-20240502230100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div 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If you engage in an edit war, you <b>may be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">blocked</a> from editing.</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Or-Shalem" title="User:Or-Shalem">Or-Shalem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Or-Shalem" title="User talk:Or-Shalem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Or-Shalem-20240531184400-Morroccanoil" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Or-Shalem-20240531184400-Morroccanoil"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Or-Shalem-20240531184400-Morroccanoil"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="June_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-June_2024-20240601154900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-June_2024-20240601154900"></span>June 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-June_2024-20240601154900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: June 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GiantSnowman-20240601154900-June_2024"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information_orange.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Information_orange.svg/25px-Information_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Information_orange.svg/38px-Information_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Information_orange.svg/50px-Information_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> Please do not add or change content, as you did at <a href="/wiki/Youness_Bengelloun" title="Youness Bengelloun">Youness Bengelloun</a>, without citing a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">reliable source</a>. Please review the guidelines at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources">Wikipedia:Citing sources</a> and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-GiantSnowman-20240601154900-June_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GiantSnowman-20240601154900-June_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GiantSnowman-20240601154900-June_2024"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_cup_of_tea_(and/or_coffee)_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_cup_of_tea_(and/or_coffee)_for_you!-20240602100700"><span id="A_cup_of_tea_.28and.2For_coffee.29_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_cup_of_tea_(and/or_coffee)_for_you!-20240602100700"></span>A cup of tea (and/or coffee) for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_cup_of_tea_(and/or_coffee)_for_you!-20240602100700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=61" title="Edit section: A cup of tea (and/or coffee) for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-20WattSphere-20240602100700-A_cup_of_tea_(and/or_coffee)_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg/120px-Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg" decoding="async" width="120" height="90" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg/180px-Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg/240px-Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1500"/></a></span> </td> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thanks for massively improving <a href="/wiki/Moroccanoil" title="Moroccanoil">Moroccanoil</a> and defending it from vandalism. - <a href="/wiki/User:20WattSphere" title="User:20WattSphere">20WattSphere</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:20WattSphere" title="User talk:20WattSphere">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-20WattSphere-20240602100700-A_cup_of_tea_(and/or_coffee)_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-20WattSphere-20240602100700-A_cup_of_tea_(and/or_coffee)_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-20WattSphere-20240602100700-A_cup_of_tea_(and/or_coffee)_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240602101500-20WattSphere-20240602100700"></span>Thank you so much! Have a lovely Sunday! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:black">Ivan</span><span style="color:gold">Scrooge</span><span style="color:black">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240602101500-20WattSphere-20240602100700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240602101500-20WattSphere-20240602100700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240602101500-20WattSphere-20240602100700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_3-20240626150300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_3-20240626150300"></span>I have sent you a note about a page you started<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_3-20240626150300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=62" title="Edit section: I have sent you a note about a page you started"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-North8000-20240626150300-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started_3"></span>Hi IvanScrooge98. Thank you for your work on <a href="/wiki/Sanremo_Music_Festival_2025" title="Sanremo Music Festival 2025">Sanremo Music Festival 2025</a>. Another editor, <a href="/wiki/User:North8000" title="User:North8000">North8000</a>, has reviewed it as part of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol">new pages patrol</a> and left the following comment: </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Good start</p></blockquote> <p>To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">{{Re|North8000}}</code>. <small>(Message delivered via the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation/Help" title="Wikipedia:Page Curation/Help">Page Curation</a> tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)</small> </p><p><b style="color: #0000cc;"><i>North8000</i></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:North8000#top" title="User talk:North8000">talk</a>) <a 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href="/wiki/Palestine_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics" title="Palestine at the 2024 Summer Olympics">Palestine at the 2024 Summer Olympics</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Palestine_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics-20240808131000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=66" title="Edit section: Palestine at the 2024 Summer Olympics"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Left_guide-20240808131000-Palestine_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics"></span>Not sure if you knew, but any of <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/LivLovisa">this user's edits</a> pertaining to the Arab-Israeli conflict were in contravention of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ECR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ECR">WP:ECR</a>. You're free to revert them as you wish. <a href="/wiki/User:Left_guide" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Left guide">Left guide</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Left_guide" title="User talk:Left guide">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Left_guide-20240808131000-Palestine_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Left_guide-20240808131000-Palestine_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Left_guide-20240808131000-Palestine_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240808132900-Left_guide-20240808131000"></span>Oh, thanks for the heads up! I have actually had a discussion with the user at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Palestine_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics" title="Talk:Palestine at the 2024 Summer Olympics">talk:Palestine at the 2024 Summer Olympics</a> and I think the current standing of the article is pretty fair. If I see her intervening on the area again I will notify her. Cheers! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240808132900-Left_guide-20240808131000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240808132900-Left_guide-20240808131000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240808132900-Left_guide-20240808131000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240808133100-Left_guide-20240808131000"></span>Oh, nevermind, just noticed you already did the job! Thank you! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240808133100-Left_guide-20240808131000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240808133100-Left_guide-20240808131000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240808133100-Left_guide-20240808131000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="August_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-August_2024-20240811172100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-August_2024-20240811172100"></span>August 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-August_2024-20240811172100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=67" title="Edit section: August 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sportsfan_1234-20240811172100-August_2024"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information_orange.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Information_orange.svg/25px-Information_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Information_orange.svg/38px-Information_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Information_orange.svg/50px-Information_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at <a href="/wiki/2024_Summer_Olympics_closing_ceremony_flag_bearers" title="2024 Summer Olympics closing ceremony flag bearers">2024 Summer Olympics closing ceremony flag bearers</a>. 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Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sportsfan_1234&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sportsfan 1234 (page does not exist)">Sportsfan 1234</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sportsfan_1234" title="User talk:Sportsfan 1234">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sportsfan_1234-20240811172100-August_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:21, 11 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sportsfan_1234-20240811172100-August_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sportsfan_1234-20240811172100-August_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240811173200-Sportsfan_1234-20240811172100"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sportsfan_1234&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sportsfan 1234 (page does not exist)">Sportsfan 1234</a>:</span> please note that, if you change one entry of a whole column instead of changing the whole column, <i>you</i> are making unconstructive edits. Before being consistent with another article, an article has to be consistent with itself. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240811173200-Sportsfan_1234-20240811172100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 11 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240811173200-Sportsfan_1234-20240811172100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240811173200-Sportsfan_1234-20240811172100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Portuguese_pronunciation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Portuguese_pronunciation-20240815173400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Portuguese_pronunciation-20240815173400"></span>Portuguese pronunciation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Portuguese_pronunciation-20240815173400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=68" title="Edit section: Portuguese pronunciation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815173400-Portuguese_pronunciation"></span>Hello again. I've noticing you're recently reverting many of my changes regarding the phonetic transcription of portuguese place names, and even tho we already talked about this i'll have to manifest some objections.First of all the specification of european or brasilian portuguese seems absolutely redundant and unnecessary; if we're talking about a place in portugal the pronunciation given should obviously be understood to be the european one, and vice-versa for Brasil. Secondly, the page for portuguese IPA transcription is riddled with errors and unnecessary features (i know, i know, i'll have to start a talk page) and that's why i started correcting the pronunciations. One error, for instance, is rendering the diphtong "ão" as [ɐ̃w] , which is obviously absurd since nasalization is present through out the whole diphtong-that's why it's called a nasal diptong! Also the usage of "w" itself is incorrect because portuguese doesnt have semivowels (only asyllabic vowels)- i'll eventually explain all in that talk page. Just one final thing: you just reverted the pronunciation of Melides (which is my home village, that's why i added the local pronunciation) to [mɨˈliðɨʃ] with a fricative "d"; that's one of the other errors of the official transcription scheme; here in the south we never pronounce b d g as fricatives. <a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User:Sérgio R R Santos">Sérgio R R Santos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User talk:Sérgio R R Santos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815173400-Portuguese_pronunciation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815173400-Portuguese_pronunciation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815173400-Portuguese_pronunciation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815182300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815173400"></span>As I told you, European vs Brazilian changes the categorization: <a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_with_Brazilian_Portuguese_IPA" title="Category:Pages with Brazilian Portuguese IPA">Category:Pages with Brazilian Portuguese IPA</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_with_European_Portuguese_IPA" title="Category:Pages with European Portuguese IPA">Category:Pages with European Portuguese IPA</a>. <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[ɐ̃w]</span> follows <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Portuguese" title="Help:IPA/Portuguese">the help page</a> (see the transcription of <i>João</i> there). Additionally, choosing <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[w]</span> and <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[j]</span> over <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[u̯]</span> and <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[i̯]</span> has to do with how we choose to transcribe the same sound—and at the moment the established consensus is for the former, again see the help page. As for the pronunciation of <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/b<span class="wrap"> </span>d<span class="wrap"> </span>ɡ/</span>, I preferred to stick to the main variant of Lisbon Portuguese in accordance with the help—we can add local pronunciations in addition, as is already the case for <a href="/wiki/Melides" title="Melides">Melides</a>. To sum up, I’m simply following the current key; if we change it, we will change those transcriptions too, but for the moment not reverting those would confuse the reader. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240815182300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815173400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815182300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815173400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815182300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815173400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815185400-IvanScrooge98-20240815182300"></span>All right, i understand what you're saying, even though i disagree, and as a native speaker of portuguese, especially of a non "standard" variety (whatever that means) i can tell you that the state of portuguese linguistics is very poor, and is very easy for someone from Lisbon just say "the variety I speak is the standard one" in detriment of other varieties whitch to me amounts to linguistic racism, but anyway this isnt the place for that conversation.</dd> <dd>Regarding "choosing [w] and [j] over [u̯] and [i̯] has to do with how we choose to transcribe the same sound" - no it isnt. According to your user page you have "a near-complete understanding of the International Phonetic Alphabet", which is the same level i attributed to myself, so you should know that the difference is that [w] and [j] are (even though they share a great deal of their features with the corresponding vowels) phonemically consonants. There's a reason why in english transcription both semivowels (=consonants) and asyllabic vowels are used; the 'y' in 'yes' is a different phoneme than the'y' in 'day' <a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User:Sérgio R R Santos">Sérgio R R Santos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User talk:Sérgio R R Santos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815185400-IvanScrooge98-20240815182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815185400-IvanScrooge98-20240815182300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815185400-IvanScrooge98-20240815182300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815190200-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815185400"></span>More than anything, the issue lies with having to make stuff simple for readers; we stick to one main European variety (and more ore less one main Brazilian) to avoid confusion. As I said, local pronunciations can always be added. Regarding IPA, as I guess you know, there is never one way to transcribe the same pronunciation, since there are various levels of narrowness. For example, I could render my name as <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/ˈivan/<span class="wrap"> </span>[ˈiːvan]<span class="wrap"> </span>[ˈiˑva̠n̺]</span> etc. The same way, while we know <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[i̯]</span> and <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[j]</span> are not the exact same sound, we could chose to always adopt either of the two symbols for the mildly narrow system used here. At the moment it is <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[j]</span> for all instances. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240815190200-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815185400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815190200-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815185400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815190200-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815185400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100-IvanScrooge98-20240815190200"></span>I highly disagree with the last part; i just gave you the example of english where they are phonemically different sounds, but anyway, there's no point in waisting my breath here; i'll start a talk page in the PT-IPA page. Eventually. Some day. When i'm in the mood.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User:Sérgio R R Santos">Sérgio R R Santos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User talk:Sérgio R R Santos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100-IvanScrooge98-20240815190200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100-IvanScrooge98-20240815190200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100-IvanScrooge98-20240815190200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815191500-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100"></span>In English those are two different phonemes, in Portuguese they aren’t. The key we follow is designed for Portuguese and is not even phonemic anyway. But yes, if you want to change it, I encourage you to discuss it there. Kind regards :) ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240815191500-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815191500-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815191500-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815193800-IvanScrooge98-20240815191500"></span>You're not understanding, it's not a question of being the same or different phonemes, it'a a question of semivowels not existing in portuguese; you have dipthongs like in 'pai' (father) or 'mau' (bad), where the second vowel is always asyllabic, and then you have words like 'pior' (worst), in which the unstressed 'i' before a vowel can be pronounced syllabicaly [piˈɔɾ], or asyllabically - [ˈpi̯ɔɾ] (usually transcribed [ˈpjɔɾ]) ; in languages that have true semivowels (again, like english) you usually dont find this alternation. <a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User:Sérgio R R Santos">Sérgio R R Santos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User talk:Sérgio R R Santos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815193800-IvanScrooge98-20240815191500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815193800-IvanScrooge98-20240815191500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815193800-IvanScrooge98-20240815191500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815194000-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815193800"></span>And I was talking about the transcription, simple as that. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240815194000-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815193800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815194000-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815193800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815194000-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815193800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815191800-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100"></span>(Ah, little side note—this is more technical than anything: in Unicode, the characters for regular lowercase G and its IPA counterpart are different: the former is ⟨g⟩, the latter is ⟨ɡ⟩. Make sure you use this one in IPA transcriptions. Thanks again!) ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240815191800-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815191800-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815191800-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815191100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815194000-IvanScrooge98-20240815191800"></span>Thanks. But why, is there any noticeable difference? <a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User:Sérgio R R Santos">Sérgio R R Santos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User talk:Sérgio R R Santos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815194000-IvanScrooge98-20240815191800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815194000-IvanScrooge98-20240815191800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815194000-IvanScrooge98-20240815191800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815194300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815194000"></span>In certain fontes there is, in other there isn’t. The former may be displayed differently (i.e. with a fully closed "tail"). ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240815194300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815194000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815194300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815194000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240815194300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240815194000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_22" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_22-20240822075300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_22-20240822075300"></span>Disambiguation link notification for August 22<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_22-20240822075300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=69" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for August 22"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-20240822075300-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_22"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Piet%C3%A0_(Michelangelo)" title="Pietà (Michelangelo)">Pietà (Michelangelo)</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Paradiso" class="mw-disambig" title="Paradiso">Paradiso</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-DPL_bot-20240822075300-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-20240822075300-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_22"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-20240822075300-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_22"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Golegã" data-mw-thread-id="h-Golegã-20240828011900"><span id="Goleg.C3.A3"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Golegã-20240828011900"></span>Golegã<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Golegã-20240828011900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=70" title="Edit section: Golegã"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828011900-Golegã"></span>So, you have been reverting my changes of pronunciations of Portuguese place names, which, fine, you're following the rules, but this one I just recently noticed that you change it <i>"per audio file"</i> which is given as <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Portuguese" title="Help:IPA/Portuguese">[ɡɔlɨˈɣɐ̃]</a>; now, even when I changed it I started a topic in the talk page regarding the first syllable, which i think is pronounced incorrectly (acttually the recording is more like <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Portuguese" title="Help:IPA/Portuguese">[ɡoɫɨˈɡɐ̃]</a> ), I even think (I know I did, just rechecked) I googled how to pronounce it and ended up in some youtube promotional videos and if I remember correctly I only heard the pronunciation <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Portuguese" title="Help:IPA/Portuguese">[ɡulɨˈɡɐ̃]</a>, as expected from the spelling - although there are some Port. place names where unstressed vowels are not pronounced as expected and that's not indicated on the current portuguese spelling system. But as I said I only encountered the expected pronunciation with <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Portuguese" title="Help:IPA/Portuguese">[ɡu</a>-] - I think the guy in the recording either misspronounced it or he just pronounced the [u] more like [ʊ] which gives to the listener the illusion of an open vowel. Anyway all this just to say that the first vowel should be changed to [u]. <a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User:Sérgio R R Santos">Sérgio R R Santos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User talk:Sérgio R R Santos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828011900-Golegã" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828011900-Golegã"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828011900-Golegã"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828011900"></span>Also, if we're taking the recordings as a base for the transcriptions, then they would largely adhere to the changes I was making, since that guy uses a rolled R and almost never pronounces /b/ /d/ /g/ as fricatives. Just saying. <a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User:Sérgio R R Santos">Sérgio R R Santos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User talk:Sérgio R R Santos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828011900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:33, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828011900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828011900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240828091000-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300"></span>My bad, I guess we should remove the audio file from Golegã then. I wasn’t exactly basing everything on the audios, but, not thinking that the <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/ɔ/</span>–<span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/u/</span> distinction could be affected by unfamiliarity with the toponym, I went along with what I heard. For the consonants I was following the help key. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240828091000-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:10, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240828091000-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240828091000-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240828091400-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300"></span>Now that I listened to the audio again, I also noticed that he seems to use an <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/a/</span> phoneme instead of <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/ɐ̃/</span>. His pronunciation sounded more like <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[ɡoɫɨ̥ˈɡa]</span> so I got convinced it was weird enough to be removed. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240828091400-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240828091400-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240828091400-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828023300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828115100-IvanScrooge98-20240828091400"></span>No, I think the audio is fine, I clearly hear a nasal vowel, it sounds more like <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Portuguese" title="Help:IPA/Portuguese">[ɡʊɫɨˈɡɐ̃]</a> ~ <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Portuguese" title="Help:IPA/Portuguese">[ɡoɫɨˈɡɐ̃]</a> to me, the unclearness about the [u] may have to do with it being in an unstressed syllable and/or being followed by the velarized [l]? (Unless the creator of the audio actually thought it's pronounced with [o]? I'd suggest contacting him to dissipate any doubts but I dont see any activity in his account since 2018, so I dont know if you'd have any luck with that). I think you can put the audio back and leave the pronunciation as it is. It's not that far off, anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User:Sérgio R R Santos">Sérgio R R Santos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S%C3%A9rgio_R_R_Santos" title="User talk:Sérgio R R Santos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828115100-IvanScrooge98-20240828091400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:51, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828115100-IvanScrooge98-20240828091400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828115100-IvanScrooge98-20240828091400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240828115800-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828115100"></span>Fair enough, I’ll trust the native speaker here. Thanks. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240828115800-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828115100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:58, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240828115800-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828115100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240828115800-Sérgio_R_R_Santos-20240828115100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_29" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_29-20240829195200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_29-20240829195200"></span>Disambiguation link notification for August 29<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_29-20240829195200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=71" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for August 29"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-20240829195200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_29"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Pane_sciocco" title="Pane sciocco">Pane sciocco</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Paradiso" class="mw-disambig" title="Paradiso">Paradiso</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-DPL_bot-20240829195200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 29 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-20240829195200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_29"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-20240829195200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_29"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_Lucario" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_Lucario-20240829233300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_Lucario-20240829233300"></span>Re: Lucario<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_Lucario-20240829233300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=72" title="Edit section: Re: Lucario"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300-Re:_Lucario"></span>The formatting of that is being done to match <a href="/wiki/Raichu" title="Raichu">Raichu</a>, a FAC article and the feedback given there. Managed to find a way to make the template work with the IPAc one at least, but there is a rhyme and reason there at least. <a href="/wiki/User:Kung_Fu_Man" title="User:Kung Fu Man">Kung Fu Man</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kung_Fu_Man" title="User talk:Kung Fu Man">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300-Re:_Lucario" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300-Re:_Lucario"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300-Re:_Lucario"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240829234000-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300"></span>I’m sorry, I had no idea. The problem is the IPA should go after the spelling it represents (i.e.the English rendition), not after other text in the middle. I figured my edits were the only way to keep the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Nihongo" title="Template:Nihongo">nihongo</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> layout. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240829234000-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:40, 29 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240829234000-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240829234000-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240829234700-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kung_Fu_Man" title="User:Kung Fu Man">Kung Fu Man</a>: I now edited both pages to keep them matching. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240829234700-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 29 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240829234700-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240829234700-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829233300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829235700-IvanScrooge98-20240829234700"></span>I think you have the right idea but you're going about it wrong: the nihongo template isn't using the notes version to keep it visible for the reader, as in the case of such article it allows for more easier checking of Japanese sources and has been the case for about...500 articles? You're forcing the reader to check an unnecessary notes section as a result and I don't see you doing this for every article that has this.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kung_Fu_Man" title="User:Kung Fu Man">Kung Fu Man</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kung_Fu_Man" title="User talk:Kung Fu Man">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829235700-IvanScrooge98-20240829234700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829235700-IvanScrooge98-20240829234700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829235700-IvanScrooge98-20240829234700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240830000700-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829235700"></span>I got it, but mine is, in my opinion, the best looking solution with the options currently available. I guess we could propose a change to the nihongo template allowing for extra text <i>before</i> the Japanese translation so we don’t have to force Japanese into a note. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240830000700-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829235700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240830000700-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829235700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240830000700-Kung_Fu_Man-20240829235700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600-IvanScrooge98-20240830000700"></span>Well there is an alternative of doing it manually with text/wikilinks instead of the nihongo template itself: it's currently just those two articles that need it, and once things progress further we can bring it up then as a necessity. It solves both of our problems currently. As for the additional template I don't think that's necessary. I was planning to do ogg recordings for cases like this and that should fill that role. What do you think?--<a href="/wiki/User:Kung_Fu_Man" title="User:Kung Fu Man">Kung Fu Man</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kung_Fu_Man" title="User talk:Kung Fu Man">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600-IvanScrooge98-20240830000700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600-IvanScrooge98-20240830000700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600-IvanScrooge98-20240830000700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240830090300-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600"></span>Japanese text should still be enclosed in <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Lang" title="Template:Lang">lang</a>|ja}}</code> for optimal display on all platforms. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240830090300-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:03, 30 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240830090300-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240830090300-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240830090500-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600"></span>So basically we still need templates anyway. Regarding audios, I usually pair them with the transcriptions too, which is more helpful to readers. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240830090500-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 30 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240830090500-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240830090500-Kung_Fu_Man-20240830005600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Comma_vs._semicolon" data-mw-thread-id="h-Comma_vs._semicolon-20240901203300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Comma_vs._semicolon-20240901203300"></span>Comma vs. semicolon<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Comma_vs._semicolon-20240901203300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=73" title="Edit section: Comma vs. semicolon"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Omnipaedista-20240901203300-Comma_vs._semicolon"></span>Hi. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Omnipaedista/Archive_5#Lead_pronunciation:_comma_or_semicolon?" title="User talk:Omnipaedista/Archive 5">In response to this</a>: it is semicolon as per <a href="/wiki/MOS:DUALPRON" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DUALPRON">MOS:DUALPRON</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Omnipaedista" title="User:Omnipaedista">Omnipaedista</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Omnipaedista" title="User talk:Omnipaedista">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Omnipaedista-20240901203300-Comma_vs._semicolon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Omnipaedista-20240901203300-Comma_vs._semicolon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Omnipaedista-20240901203300-Comma_vs._semicolon"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240901205700-Omnipaedista-20240901203300"></span>Hi! That section is actually still unclear with respect to what punctuation should be used between different pronunciations of the same spelling. The examples given only show how the English pronunciation and spellings in other languages are separated. <dl><dd><b>Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela</b> (<span class="rt-commentedText nowrap"><span class="IPA nopopups noexcerpt" lang="en-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/English" title="Help:IPA/English">/<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted"><span title="/ˌ/: secondary stress follows">ˌ</span><span title="'v' in 'vie'">v</span><span title="/ɛ/: 'e' in 'dress'">ɛ</span><span title="'n' in 'nigh'">n</span><span title="/ə/: 'a' in 'about'">ə</span><span title="/ˈ/: primary stress follows">ˈ</span><span title="'z' in 'zoom'">z</span><span title="'w' in 'wind'">w</span><span title="/eɪ/: 'a' in 'face'">eɪ</span><span title="'l' in 'lie'">l</span><span title="/ə/: 'a' in 'about'">ə</span></span>/</a></span></span>; <a href="/wiki/Spanish_language" title="Spanish language">Spanish</a>: <i lang="es">República Bolivariana de Venezuela</i>) — this is clear and well-established; but is it</dd> <dd><b>Venezuela</b> (<span class="rt-commentedText nowrap"><span class="IPA nopopups noexcerpt" lang="en-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/English" title="Help:IPA/English">/<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted"><span title="/ˌ/: secondary stress follows">ˌ</span><span title="'v' in 'vie'">v</span><span title="/ɛ/: 'e' in 'dress'">ɛ</span><span title="'n' in 'nigh'">n</span><span title="/ə/: 'a' in 'about'">ə</span><span title="/ˈ/: primary stress follows">ˈ</span><span title="'z' in 'zoom'">z</span><span title="'w' in 'wind'">w</span><span title="/eɪ/: 'a' in 'face'">eɪ</span><span title="'l' in 'lie'">l</span><span title="/ə/: 'a' in 'about'">ə</span></span>/</a></span></span>, <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1177148991"><span class="IPA-label IPA-label-small">Spanish:</span> <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="es-Latn-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Spanish" title="Help:IPA/Spanish">[beneˈswela]</a></span>) — or</dd> <dd><b>Venezuela</b> (<span class="rt-commentedText nowrap"><span class="IPA nopopups noexcerpt" lang="en-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/English" title="Help:IPA/English">/<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted"><span title="/ˌ/: secondary stress follows">ˌ</span><span title="'v' in 'vie'">v</span><span title="/ɛ/: 'e' in 'dress'">ɛ</span><span title="'n' in 'nigh'">n</span><span title="/ə/: 'a' in 'about'">ə</span><span title="/ˈ/: primary stress follows">ˈ</span><span title="'z' in 'zoom'">z</span><span title="'w' in 'wind'">w</span><span title="/eɪ/: 'a' in 'face'">eɪ</span><span title="'l' in 'lie'">l</span><span title="/ə/: 'a' in 'about'">ə</span></span>/</a></span></span>; <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1177148991"><span class="IPA-label IPA-label-small">Spanish:</span> <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="es-Latn-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Spanish" title="Help:IPA/Spanish">[beneˈswela]</a></span>)?</dd></dl></dd> <dd>This is neither shown nor clarified by the text. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240901205700-Omnipaedista-20240901203300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240901205700-Omnipaedista-20240901203300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240901205700-Omnipaedista-20240901203300"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Omnipaedista-20240901223300-Comma_vs._semicolon"></span>(outdent) I think it is clear that different languages are separated by semicolons no matter the context (name in a different language, pronunciation in a different language). It would make little sense to draw a distinction. </p><p>Instead of having:<br/> '''Nikita Khrushchev''' ({{IPAc-en|<span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">n|ɪ|ˈ|k|iː|t|ə|_|ˈ|k|r|ʊ|ʃ|tʃ|ɛ|f</span>}}; {{lang-rus|Никита Хрущёв}} {{IPA|ru|<span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">nʲɪˈkʲitə<span class="wrap"> </span>xrʊˈɕːɵf</span>|}}) </p><p>We could as well have: </p><p>'''Nikita Khrushchev''' ({{IPAc-en|<span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">n|ɪ|ˈ|k|iː|t|ə|_|ˈ|k|r|ʊ|ʃ|tʃ|ɛ|f</span>}}; {{IPA|ru|<span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">nʲɪˈkʲitə<span class="wrap"> </span>xrʊˈɕːɵf</span>|}}) </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Omnipaedista" title="User:Omnipaedista">Omnipaedista</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Omnipaedista" title="User talk:Omnipaedista">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Omnipaedista-20240901223300-Comma_vs._semicolon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Omnipaedista-20240901223300-Comma_vs._semicolon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Omnipaedista-20240901223300-Comma_vs._semicolon"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240901224000-Omnipaedista-20240901223300"></span>It would be clear if the conventions on punctuation for the matter were clearly explained. Instead we only get two visual examples of analogous cases and no mention of either comma nor semicolon. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240901224000-Omnipaedista-20240901223300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240901224000-Omnipaedista-20240901223300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240901224000-Omnipaedista-20240901223300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sophia_Loren" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sophia_Loren-20240905172000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sophia_Loren-20240905172000"></span>Sophia_Loren<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sophia_Loren-20240905172000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=74" title="Edit section: Sophia_Loren"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hipal-20240905172000-Sophia_Loren"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Stop_hand_nuvola.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Stop icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/30px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/45px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/60px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="240" data-file-height="240"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> Your recent editing history at <a href="/wiki/Sophia_Loren" title="Sophia Loren">Sophia Loren</a> shows that you are currently engaged in an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">edit war</a>; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">talk page</a> to work toward making a version that represents <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EPTALK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EPTALK">how this is done</a>. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Noticeboards" title="Wikipedia:Noticeboards">noticeboard</a> or seek <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution">dispute resolution</a>. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy" title="Wikipedia:Protection policy">page protection</a>. </p><p><b>Being involved in an edit war can result in you being <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">blocked from editing</a></b>—especially if you violate the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring#The_three-revert_rule" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">three-revert rule</a>, which states that an editor must not perform more than three <a href="/wiki/Help:Reverting" title="Help:Reverting">reverts</a> on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—<b>even if you do not violate the three-revert rule</b>—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. --<a href="/wiki/User:Hipal" title="User:Hipal">Hipal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hipal" title="User talk:Hipal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Hipal-20240905172000-Sophia_Loren" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hipal-20240905172000-Sophia_Loren"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hipal-20240905172000-Sophia_Loren"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="September_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_2024-20240909060600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_2024-20240909060600"></span>September 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_2024-20240909060600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=75" title="Edit section: September 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fyunck(click)-20240909060600-September_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Stop_hand_nuvola.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Stop icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/30px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/45px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/60px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="240" data-file-height="240"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> Your recent editing history at <a href="/wiki/Jessica_Pegula" title="Jessica Pegula">Jessica Pegula</a> shows that you are currently engaged in an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">edit war</a>; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">talk page</a> to work toward making a version that represents <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EPTALK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EPTALK">how this is done</a>. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Noticeboards" title="Wikipedia:Noticeboards">noticeboard</a> or seek <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution">dispute resolution</a>. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy" title="Wikipedia:Protection policy">page protection</a>. </p><p><b>Being involved in an edit war can result in you being <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">blocked from editing</a></b>—especially if you violate the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring#The_three-revert_rule" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">three-revert rule</a>, which states that an editor must not perform more than three <a href="/wiki/Help:Reverting" title="Help:Reverting">reverts</a> on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—<b>even if you do not violate the three-revert rule</b>—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. </p><p>You have been told that adding something new that gets reverted needs consensus to re-add. You have not received that on the talk page and you know it. <a href="/wiki/User:Fyunck(click)" title="User:Fyunck(click)">Fyunck(click)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fyunck(click)" title="User talk:Fyunck(click)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Fyunck(click)-20240909060600-September_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:06, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fyunck(click)-20240909060600-September_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fyunck(click)-20240909060600-September_2024"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_summary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_summary-20240915114200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_summary-20240915114200"></span>Edit summary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_summary-20240915114200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=76" title="Edit section: Edit summary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gor1995-20240915114200-Edit_summary"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/25px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/38px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/50px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> Hello. I have noticed that you <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/editsummary/en.wikipedia.org/IvanScrooge98">often</a> edit without using an <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_summary" title="Help:Edit summary">edit summary</a>. Please do your best to <b>always fill in the summary field</b>. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing" title="Special:Preferences">your preferences</a>. Thanks! — <span style="color:#00008B; font-weight:bold; font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><a href="/wiki/User:Gor1995" title="User:Gor1995">Gor1995</a></span> <span style="font-size:1.4em;">𝄞</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Gor1995-20240915114200-Edit_summary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gor1995-20240915114200-Edit_summary"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gor1995-20240915114200-Edit_summary"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240915120000-Gor1995-20240915114200"></span>Hi! You are right, I often don’t. It’s probably because in many cases the edit itself takes me less time than the summary would. But I’ll try to fill it in more consistently! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240915120000-Gor1995-20240915114200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:00, 15 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240915120000-Gor1995-20240915114200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240915120000-Gor1995-20240915114200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IPA's" data-mw-thread-id="h-IPA's-20240916201000"><span id="IPA.27s"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IPA's-20240916201000"></span>IPA's<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IPA's-20240916201000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=77" title="Edit section: IPA's"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TylerBurden-20240916201000-IPA's"></span>Hello, I often see you adding IPA's to articles, I can't recall a single time they've been accompanied by a reference supporting them. As far as I'm aware, IPA's are not exempt from the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VERIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VERIFY">WP:VERIFY</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a> policies. </p><p>I get that you might be enthusiastic about them and linguistics and I have no doubt your intentions are good, but like with anything else, people need to be able to check they come from a reliable source. If we leave it to Wikipedia editors it'll just be constantly tweaked because people can have different ideas on prononciations. </p><p>Like I said I have no doubts your intentions are good so I'm not trying to be disrespectful of your work, but unless you can point to some exemption I'm not aware of it seems to me like you're adding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:TylerBurden" title="User:TylerBurden">TylerBurden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TylerBurden" title="User talk:TylerBurden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-TylerBurden-20240916201000-IPA's" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TylerBurden-20240916201000-IPA's"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TylerBurden-20240916201000-IPA's"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240916201900-TylerBurden-20240916201000"></span>Hi Tyler! You are right, I more usually provide refs when the pronunciation has been subject to prior controversy. That sometimes also happens when I can’t easily find a source even if a pronunciation difference is obvious. For example, <i>o</i> in a closed syllable is never <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/ɔː/</span> in British English, where <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/ɒ/</span> is used instead; this is the case of <a href="/wiki/Mj%C3%B6lnir" title="Mjölnir">Mjölnir</a> which you have just edited. I’ll see if I can find a proper citation for this. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240916201900-TylerBurden-20240916201000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240916201900-TylerBurden-20240916201000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240916201900-TylerBurden-20240916201000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_September_19" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_September_19-20240919195400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_September_19-20240919195400"></span>Disambiguation link notification for September 19<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_September_19-20240919195400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=78" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for September 19"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-20240919195400-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_September_19"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Deodat" title="Deodat">Deodat</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Dieudonn%C3%A9" class="mw-disambig" title="Dieudonné">Dieudonné</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-DPL_bot-20240919195400-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_September_19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-20240919195400-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_September_19"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-20240919195400-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_September_19"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="/n/_dropping_in_Dutch" data-mw-thread-id="h-/n/_dropping_in_Dutch-20240921091900"><span id=".2Fn.2F_dropping_in_Dutch"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-/n/_dropping_in_Dutch-20240921091900"></span>/n/ dropping in Dutch<span data-mw-comment-end="h-/n/_dropping_in_Dutch-20240921091900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=79" title="Edit section: /n/ dropping in Dutch"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sol505000-20240921091900-/n/_dropping_in_Dutch"></span>It can be so indiscriminate that <a href="/wiki/Martin_Pieckenhagen" title="Martin Pieckenhagen">Martin Pieckenhagen</a>, a German, was often called <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[ˈpikəˌɦaːχə]</span> when he was playing for <a href="/wiki/Heracles_Almelo" title="Heracles Almelo">Heracles</a>. I'm pretty sure nobody makes an effort to (consistently) keep the <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/n/</span> in <a href="/wiki/Wladimir_Balentien" title="Wladimir Balentien">Balentien</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Sol505000" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sol505000">Sol505000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sol505000" title="User talk:Sol505000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sol505000-20240921091900-/n/_dropping_in_Dutch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sol505000-20240921091900-/n/_dropping_in_Dutch"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sol505000-20240921091900-/n/_dropping_in_Dutch"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240921092100-Sol505000-20240921091900"></span>That's interesting, I wasn’t sure it could also happen in cases where the <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/n/</span> does not end a morpheme. Thanks for the insight! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240921092100-Sol505000-20240921091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240921092100-Sol505000-20240921091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20240921092100-Sol505000-20240921091900"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sol505000-20240921092300-IvanScrooge98-20240921092100"></span>It does end a syllable in <i>Balentien</i> (which is enough), at least most speakers would say so, I think ("tien" being one of the most basic Dutch words, meaning "ten"). <a href="/wiki/User:Sol505000" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sol505000">Sol505000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sol505000" title="User talk:Sol505000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sol505000-20240921092300-IvanScrooge98-20240921092100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:23, 21 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sol505000-20240921092300-IvanScrooge98-20240921092100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sol505000-20240921092300-IvanScrooge98-20240921092100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sol505000-20240927221700-Sol505000-20240921091900"></span>Re <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Constant_Permeke&diff=1248139171&oldid=1248131441">[3]</a>, you're right in the sense that Booij says that the <i>oral</i> non-native vowels (so <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[ɛː<span class="wrap"> </span>ɔː]</span> etc.) occur only when stressed. I got that wrong. But you could provide a citation instead of saying "this is ridiculous", you know? <a href="/wiki/User:Sol505000" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sol505000">Sol505000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sol505000" title="User talk:Sol505000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sol505000-20240927221700-Sol505000-20240921091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sol505000-20240927221700-Sol505000-20240921091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sol505000-20240927221700-Sol505000-20240921091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20240927225800-Sol505000-20240927221700"></span>What I meant was that, if a nasal vowel can only be long but at the same time nasal vowels can only occur in stressed syllables, the logical conclusion would be that the unstressed nasal vowel changes in quality (gets shorter / loses the nasal trait / etc.), not that the syllable becomes stressed when it’s almost certainly not the case there. Now, our key only allows for long nasals and the previous transcription featured a short one, so that’s why I changed it. All I wanted was to match it. I never meant to dive into phonetic details since I don’t have a source to back this up and you seem much more knowledgeable than me, but please don’t try to force one or another phonetic rule at any cost without being certain whether the actual outcome is <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[kɔ̃ˈstɑ̃ː],<span class="wrap"> </span>[kɔnˈstɑ̃ː],<span class="wrap"> </span>[ˌkɔ̃ːˈstɑ̃ː]</span> or something else. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20240927225800-Sol505000-20240927221700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span 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Will you please stop reverting my correction? Not that I am questioning your expertise on the Dutch language or anything, but I know pretty damned well how to pronounce my own name, and believe me: nobody would ever call me "Jam". And since I am for the North of the country, I don't understand why you would insist on a typically Southern pronuciation like [ɣ]. See for example <a href="/wiki/Hard_and_soft_G_in_Dutch" title="Hard and soft G in Dutch">Hard and soft G in Dutch</a>. Best, —<a href="/wiki/User:IJzeren_Jan" title="User:IJzeren Jan">IJzeren Jan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:IJzeren_Jan" title="User talk:IJzeren Jan"> <sub style="color: green"><i>Uszkiełtu?</i></sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IJzeren_Jan-20241004224700-Your_edits_on_Jan_van_Steenbergen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241004224700-Your_edits_on_Jan_van_Steenbergen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241004224700-Your_edits_on_Jan_van_Steenbergen"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005000200-IJzeren_Jan-20241004224700"></span>Hello. I don’t question that you might know better than me how to pronounce your name, <s>but what you might not realize as a native speaker are the automatic phonological processes that occur, such as the assimilation of <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/n/</span> into <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/v/</span>.</s> On a second note, if we have a key for the IPA transcription of a language, we must follow it; in this case, we are going to use ⟨<span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA" lang="und-Latn-fonipa">ɣ</span>⟩ to represent all the possible variants of that sound (otherwise we would need to add, for example, ⟨<span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA" lang="und-Latn-fonipa">χ</span>⟩ and ⟨<span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA" lang="und-Latn-fonipa">ʝ</span>⟩ to the key). Regards. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241005000200-IJzeren_Jan-20241004224700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005000200-IJzeren_Jan-20241004224700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005000200-IJzeren_Jan-20241004224700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005000300-IJzeren_Jan-20241004224700"></span>(Also mind <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>). ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241005000300-IJzeren_Jan-20241004224700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005000300-IJzeren_Jan-20241004224700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005000300-IJzeren_Jan-20241004224700"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005111400-IvanScrooge98-20241005000300"></span>I am indeed a native speaker, but I am a professional linguist as well, and again, I know very well how my name is pronounced. Again, <i>nobody</i> would pronounce my name as "Jam van Steembergen", except perhaps in very fast or sloppy speech. If you really feel the need to interfere with issues of Dutch pronunciation, then at least look at the details. For example, you mentioned <a href="/wiki/Dutch_phonology" title="Dutch phonology">Dutch phonology</a> but missed an imporant point: <i>"<u>Apparently</u>, /m/ and /n/ assimilate their articulation to a following obstruent <u>in many cases</u>."</i> What this means is quite simply that it is NOT an automatic phonological process you can simply apply without even knowing the language. Also consider that names sometimes tend to behave differently from ordinary words. And as for the pronunciation of /g/, in the same article you can also read about the distinction between North Standard Dutch and Southern Standard Dutch. Just search in the article for "χ" and you'll find out that your claim that it doesn't exist in Dutch is incorrect. In any case, it is unvoiced, and frankly, I really don't understand why you would insist on the Belgian pronunciation /ɣ/ for a person who is obviously from the Northern part of the Netherlands.</dd> <dd>And look, I've been here long enough to know very well what COI means. I never write articles about myself and rarely interfere with them. But you'll have to admit that this has absolutely nothing in common with any kind of selfpromotion.</dd> <dd>(and also mind <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTASOURCE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTASOURCE">NOTASOURCE</a>) ;)</dd> <dd>Cheers, —<a href="/wiki/User:IJzeren_Jan" title="User:IJzeren Jan">IJzeren Jan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:IJzeren_Jan" title="User talk:IJzeren Jan"> <sub style="color: green"><i>Uszkiełtu?</i></sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005111400-IvanScrooge98-20241005000300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:14, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005111400-IvanScrooge98-20241005000300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005111400-IvanScrooge98-20241005000300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005112200-IJzeren_Jan-20241005111400"></span>I already explained very clearly my reasons, there’s no need for a long explanation on Dutch phonology which is out of place. Since <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Lang" title="Template:Lang">lang</a>|nl}}</code> points to <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Dutch" title="Help:IPA/Dutch">Help:IPA/Dutch</a>, it MUST follow that help page, which obviously simplifies the dialectal differences I am well aware of. You thought I was saying <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[<a href="/wiki/Voiceless_uvular_fricative" title="Voiceless uvular fricative">χ</a>]</span> doesn’t exist in Dutch; on the contrary, I know it does. We just don’t transcribe it that way on Wikipedia. See <a href="/wiki/MOS:DUALPRON" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DUALPRON">MOS:DUALPRON</a>. Thanks. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241005112200-IJzeren_Jan-20241005111400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005112200-IJzeren_Jan-20241005111400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005112200-IJzeren_Jan-20241005111400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005123300-IvanScrooge98-20241005112200"></span>Fair enough. Well then, without further arguments, I would appreciate it if you could change the IPA to <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1177148991"><span class="IPA-label IPA-label-small">Dutch pronunciation:</span> <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="nl-Latn-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Dutch" title="Help:IPA/Dutch">[joˈɦɑnəs<span class="wrap"> </span>ˈɦɛndrɪk<span class="wrap"> </span>ˈjɑn<span class="wrap"> </span>vɑn<span class="wrap"> </span>ˈsteːnbɛrxə(n)]</a></span>, which is compliant with <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Dutch" title="Help:IPA/Dutch">Help:IPA/Dutch</a>, and remove that footnote. Aha, and one more thing: I saw you added a caption to that photo, which is great, but please note that my name is "<a href="/wiki/Van_(Dutch)" title="Van (Dutch)">Van</a> Steenbergen" and not "Steenbergen". Thanks, —<a href="/wiki/User:IJzeren_Jan" title="User:IJzeren Jan">IJzeren Jan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:IJzeren_Jan" title="User talk:IJzeren Jan"> <sub style="color: green"><i>Uszkiełtu?</i></sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005123300-IvanScrooge98-20241005112200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005123300-IvanScrooge98-20241005112200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005123300-IvanScrooge98-20241005112200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005124000-IJzeren_Jan-20241005123300"></span>You missed the point again. The help uses ⟨<span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA" lang="und-Latn-fonipa">ɣ</span>⟩ to represent ALL ITS VARIANTS (so basically in a phonemic way), while ⟨<span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA" lang="und-Latn-fonipa">x</span>⟩ for the separate phoneme and cases where the voiced phoneme universally devoices. It also uses ⟨<span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA" lang="und-Latn-fonipa">ɱ</span>⟩, so we should be consistent with transcribing assimilation. Sorry for your name, I’ll fix it. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241005124000-IJzeren_Jan-20241005123300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005124000-IJzeren_Jan-20241005123300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005124000-IJzeren_Jan-20241005123300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005133600-IvanScrooge98-20241005124000"></span>Thank you for the correction. But for the rest, I am afraid it's you who's missing the point here. /ɱ/ is mentioned as an allophone of /m/, not of /n/. And even though in some cases it can indeed be an allophone of /n/ as well, that generally is the case only when people speak very fast, but it is certainly not a norm. Besides, the page you mention says nothing about /ɣ/ being the standard and /x/ being a regional variation. Honestly, I don't want to make this any bigger than it is, but I really don't understand why a person who obviously doesn't even speak Dutch would keep insisting on an erroneous IPA transcription. —<a href="/wiki/User:IJzeren_Jan" title="User:IJzeren Jan">IJzeren Jan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:IJzeren_Jan" title="User talk:IJzeren Jan"> <sub style="color: green"><i>Uszkiełtu?</i></sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005133600-IvanScrooge98-20241005124000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005133600-IvanScrooge98-20241005124000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005133600-IvanScrooge98-20241005124000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005142700-IJzeren_Jan-20241005133600"></span>These transcriptions are meant to be as general as possible – unless more varieties are listed (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Portuguese" title="Help:IPA/Portuguese">Help:IPA/Portuguese</a>, <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Standard_German" title="Help:IPA/Standard German">Help:IPA/Standard German</a>). ⟨<span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA" lang="und-Latn-fonipa">ɣ</span>⟩ is used extensively for IPAs of Dutch names, regardless of the specific accent used by the subject / in the location of the article. Since <i>you</i>’ve been so insistent, I now reemplemented your version of this transcription, relinking it to the general <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA" title="Help:IPA">Help:IPA</a> page. I’ll let others deal with this. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241005142700-IJzeren_Jan-20241005133600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005142700-IJzeren_Jan-20241005133600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241005142700-IJzeren_Jan-20241005133600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005143500-IvanScrooge98-20241005142700"></span>Thanks! —<a href="/wiki/User:IJzeren_Jan" title="User:IJzeren Jan">IJzeren Jan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:IJzeren_Jan" title="User talk:IJzeren Jan"> <sub style="color: green"><i>Uszkiełtu?</i></sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005143500-IvanScrooge98-20241005142700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005143500-IvanScrooge98-20241005142700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IJzeren_Jan-20241005143500-IvanScrooge98-20241005142700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ole_Sæter" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ole_Sæter-20241017055500"><span id="Ole_S.C3.A6ter"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ole_Sæter-20241017055500"></span>Ole Sæter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ole_Sæter-20241017055500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=82" title="Edit section: Ole Sæter"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carthradge-20241017055500-Ole_Sæter"></span>Hi, wanted to note that your edit on <a href="/wiki/Ole_S%C3%A6ter" title="Ole Sæter">Ole_Sæter</a> that included both links to the <a href="/wiki/Gaza_Genocide" class="mw-redirect" title="Gaza Genocide">Gaza Genocide</a> and <a href="/wiki/Israel-Hamas_War" class="mw-redirect" title="Israel-Hamas War">Israel-Hamas War</a> was reverted by someone who is not permitted to make such edits due to the lockdown on edits around this topic. I elevated this to another mod and they reverted my edit and one of the other person's edits but missed this edit since they did not look closely. I don't want to edit to your version since I also do not qualify to make these edits (do not yet have 500 edits). If you wanted to take a look and correct it to your previous version, I would appreciate it. <a href="/wiki/User:Carthradge" title="User:Carthradge">Carthradge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carthradge" title="User talk:Carthradge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Carthradge-20241017055500-Ole_Sæter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carthradge-20241017055500-Ole_Sæter"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carthradge-20241017055500-Ole_Sæter"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241018181300-Carthradge-20241017055500"></span>Thanks for notifying! I restored my wording ;) ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241018181300-Carthradge-20241017055500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241018181300-Carthradge-20241017055500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241018181300-Carthradge-20241017055500"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carthradge-20241101181900-IvanScrooge98-20241018181300"></span>The edit was again reverted by a serial address against the rules around edits relating to the conflict. This page has been vandalized by ips and serials several times now, and it should probably be restricted in some way. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Carthradge" title="User:Carthradge">Carthradge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carthradge#top" title="User talk:Carthradge">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Carthradge" title="Special:Contributions/Carthradge">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Carthradge-20241101181900-IvanScrooge98-20241018181300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carthradge-20241101181900-IvanScrooge98-20241018181300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carthradge-20241101181900-IvanScrooge98-20241018181300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241101194500-Carthradge-20241101181900"></span>Thank you for intervening. I agree something should be done, and I guess the issue could be reported to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">arbitration committee</a> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PIA">WP:PIA</a>. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241101194500-Carthradge-20241101181900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241101194500-Carthradge-20241101181900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241101194500-Carthradge-20241101181900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aaron_Liu-20241103215600-IvanScrooge98-20241101194500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Carthradge" title="User:Carthradge">Carthradge</a> I'm fairly sure Ivan meant <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement</a> based on the results of the Israel case, not starting a new case request. <a href="/wiki/User:Aaron_Liu" title="User:Aaron Liu"><span style="color:#0645ad">Aaron Liu</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aaron_Liu#top" title="User talk:Aaron Liu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Aaron_Liu-20241103215600-IvanScrooge98-20241101194500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aaron_Liu-20241103215600-IvanScrooge98-20241101194500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aaron_Liu-20241103215600-IvanScrooge98-20241101194500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241103220100-Aaron_Liu-20241103215600"></span>Yep, exactly! Sorry I could not provide this link, I tried to look for the appropriate page but I couldn’t find it when I was replying (lol). ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241103220100-Aaron_Liu-20241103215600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241103220100-Aaron_Liu-20241103215600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241103220100-Aaron_Liu-20241103215600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carthradge-20241103220500-IvanScrooge98-20241103220100"></span>Thank you for the link. I don't have any experience with arbitration and Wiki resolution as a whole. I've just been trying to elevate this issue to wherever it needs to be surfaced so it gets resolved. <a href="/wiki/User:Carthradge" title="User:Carthradge">Carthradge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carthradge" title="User talk:Carthradge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Carthradge-20241103220500-IvanScrooge98-20241103220100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carthradge-20241103220500-IvanScrooge98-20241103220100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carthradge-20241103220500-IvanScrooge98-20241103220100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sir_Kenneth_Kho-20241103222300-Carthradge-20241103220500"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Carthradge" title="User:Carthradge">Carthradge</a>, you may withdraw your arbitration case by deleting your arbitration case. An arbitration case is a step of last resort only for extraordinary and complex cases. It is totally different to arbitration enforcement which simply apply rules created by ArbCom, and it is where ordinary violations in this topic area are resolved. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sir_Kenneth_Kho&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sir Kenneth Kho (page does not exist)">Sir Kenneth Kho</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sir_Kenneth_Kho" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sir Kenneth Kho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Sir_Kenneth_Kho-20241103222300-Carthradge-20241103220500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sir_Kenneth_Kho-20241103222300-Carthradge-20241103220500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sir_Kenneth_Kho-20241103222300-Carthradge-20241103220500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carthradge-20241104013800-Sir_Kenneth_Kho-20241103222300"></span>I see it was already done for me. The article was also extended protected. As far as I'm concerned, this seems resolved now. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Carthradge" title="User:Carthradge">Carthradge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carthradge" title="User talk:Carthradge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Carthradge-20241104013800-Sir_Kenneth_Kho-20241103222300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carthradge-20241104013800-Sir_Kenneth_Kho-20241103222300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carthradge-20241104013800-Sir_Kenneth_Kho-20241103222300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Concern_regarding_Draft:Benidorm_Fest_2025" data-mw-thread-id="h-Concern_regarding_Draft:Benidorm_Fest_2025-20241020110700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Concern_regarding_Draft:Benidorm_Fest_2025-20241020110700"></span>Concern regarding <a href="/wiki/Draft:Benidorm_Fest_2025" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Benidorm Fest 2025">Draft:Benidorm Fest 2025</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Concern_regarding_Draft:Benidorm_Fest_2025-20241020110700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=83" title="Edit section: Concern regarding Draft:Benidorm Fest 2025"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FireflyBot-20241020110700-Concern_regarding_Draft:Benidorm_Fest_2025"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/25px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/38px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/50px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> Hello, IvanScrooge98. 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Concerning <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sergio_Pellissier&curid=8870184&diff=1252891765&oldid=1242004344">this edit</a>, Pellissier has an Italian name and a French surname. According to your edit, you are adapting your surname to Italian pronunciation: why? and according to which sources? I propose the {{IPA|/ˌlɔːrəm ˈɪpsəm/}} template. <a href="/wiki/User:Simoncik84" title="User:Simoncik84">Simoncik84</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Simoncik84" title="User talk:Simoncik84">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Simoncik84-20241024094200-IPA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Simoncik84-20241024094200-IPA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Simoncik84-20241024094200-IPA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241024101100-Simoncik84-20241024094200"></span>Hello! I adapted the pronunciation because 1) he is Italian so most of his fellow nationals are going to read it that way 2) you should never mix different languages within the same instance of <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:IPA" title="Template:IPA">IPA</a>}}</code>, as that confuses readers as to what language they are trying to pronounce and (for cases like French and Italian) the transcription is going to link to a specific IPA key for only one of the languages. So I rather propose two separate templates. (I adapted the pronunciation of <i>Pellissier</i> in accordance to regular Italian reading of French words, see e.g. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dipionline.it/dizionario/ricerca?lemma=dossier">dossier</a>). ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241024101100-Simoncik84-20241024094200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241024101100-Simoncik84-20241024094200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241024101100-Simoncik84-20241024094200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Simoncik84-20241031144300-IvanScrooge98-20241024101100"></span>In my opinion, you've invented an Italian IPA transcription of a French-language surname. I've linked this discussion on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Linguistics#Name-surname_in_two_different_languages" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics">WikiProject Linguistics talk page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Simoncik84" title="User:Simoncik84">Simoncik84</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Simoncik84" title="User talk:Simoncik84">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Simoncik84-20241031144300-IvanScrooge98-20241024101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:43, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Simoncik84-20241031144300-IvanScrooge98-20241024101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Simoncik84-20241031144300-IvanScrooge98-20241024101100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241031144800-Simoncik84-20241031144300"></span>It’s not an “invented transcription”. It’s basically the only plausible adaptation of the pronunciation to Italian phonology. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241031144800-Simoncik84-20241031144300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241031144800-Simoncik84-20241031144300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241031144800-Simoncik84-20241031144300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Simoncik84-20241101194200-IvanScrooge98-20241031144800"></span>Hi, by invented I mean non-sourced, and on wikipedia we must provide sources. Pellissier's case is similar to <a href="/wiki/Sergio_Busquets" title="Sergio Busquets">Sergio Busquets</a> (Spanish name and Catalan surname), and since Busquets article is a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Assessment#Importance_scale" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Assessment">high-importance one</a> on wp:en (while Pellissier's is mid-important) if this template has been accepted for Busquets, we therefore should replicate it for Pellissier. I've deleted the French adapted pronunciation (again, which source?) of the Italian name "Sergio". How could we put the Catalanized pronunciation of the Spanish name "Sergio" (coincidence!) on Busquets's page? I've added the source for the surname, because it's the only sourced information we have. <a href="/wiki/User:Simoncik84" title="User:Simoncik84">Simoncik84</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Simoncik84" title="User talk:Simoncik84">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Simoncik84-20241101194200-IvanScrooge98-20241031144800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Simoncik84-20241101194200-IvanScrooge98-20241031144800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Simoncik84-20241101194200-IvanScrooge98-20241031144800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241101194800-Simoncik84-20241101194200"></span>Well, I don’t see any source for the Spanish pronunciation of Catalan <i>Busquets</i>, and yet no problem there. The situation was exactly the same at Sergio Pellissier before you intervened and mixed the French IPA with the Italian one. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241101194800-Simoncik84-20241101194200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241101194800-Simoncik84-20241101194200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241101194800-Simoncik84-20241101194200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241101195200-Simoncik84-20241101194200"></span>In any case I’m glad you could find some sources, thanks for that. Now the issue seems settled. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241101195200-Simoncik84-20241101194200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241101195200-Simoncik84-20241101194200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241101195200-Simoncik84-20241101194200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you_…" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you_…-20241026065800"><span id="Thank_you_.E2.80.A6"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you_…-20241026065800"></span>Thank you …<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you_…-20241026065800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=85" title="Edit section: Thank you …"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Isoglosse-20241026065800-Thank_you_…"></span>… for fixing the references in two of my edits. I made both edits on the phone. Alas, formatting references properly is a pain in the ass in the mobile app, so I just added the URLs for the time being. (I meant to fix them later today when I'm on my laptop.) Just wanted to let you know that I didn't paste the bare URLs out of laziness. Thanks again! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Isoglosse&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isoglosse (page does not exist)">Isoglosse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isoglosse" title="User talk:Isoglosse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Isoglosse-20241026065800-Thank_you_…" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Isoglosse-20241026065800-Thank_you_…"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Isoglosse-20241026065800-Thank_you_…"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241026094200-Isoglosse-20241026065800"></span>Oh, no worries! Thanks for clarifying. I take advantage to point a little thing out about IPA: for certain languages, categorization changes if you use a more specific language code in the <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:IPA" title="Template:IPA">IPA</a>}}</code> template. For example, in <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1252720289" title="Special:Diff/1252720289">this edit</a>, you added an Austrian German IPA; using the <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">de-AT</code> code adds the more specific <a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_with_Austrian_German_IPA" title="Category:Pages with Austrian German IPA">Category:Pages with Austrian German IPA</a> rather than the more generic <a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_with_German_IPA" title="Category:Pages with German IPA">Category:Pages with German IPA</a> which includes Northern German. Cheers, and keep up the good work! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241026094200-Isoglosse-20241026065800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241026094200-Isoglosse-20241026065800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241026094200-Isoglosse-20241026065800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Isoglosse-20241026175300-IvanScrooge98-20241026094200"></span>That's an interesting point. To be honest, I am not sure about using country-specific codes here (and maybe in general). I didn't have a lot of time to think about this, so please take my remarks with a grain of salt. In the transcription that you referred to, there are no specific Austrian features. The name would be pronounced the same in Germany (phonologically). As is evident from the <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Standard_German" title="Help:IPA/Standard German">transcription guidelines</a>, there are very few differences between German as spoken in Germany and German as spoken in Austria anyway. Even the differences between Swiss German and the other two varieties are few and far between. So I would tend to collapse all three German national varieties into one diaphonemic transcription, similarly to what was done for English. It's just an anecdote, but I once used one of the few Austrian features described in the guidelines (word-final [ɛ] instead of [ə]) and tagged the pronunciation as Austrian – but it was <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1220350161" title="Special:Diff/1220350161">reverted</a> anyway 😁 So, I am certainly not opposed to using country-specific codes in transcriptions, and I am grateful for your edit. But if I had to advise on a revision of the transcription guidelines for German, that would be my take, I guess. Anyway, keep up the good work, you too, and thanks in advance for any future reference fixes on my mobile edits! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Isoglosse&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isoglosse (page does not exist)">Isoglosse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isoglosse" title="User talk:Isoglosse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Isoglosse-20241026175300-IvanScrooge98-20241026094200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Isoglosse-20241026175300-IvanScrooge98-20241026094200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Isoglosse-20241026175300-IvanScrooge98-20241026094200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241026181100-Isoglosse-20241026175300"></span>I only noticed now the addition of <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[ɛ]</span> as the Swiss/Austrian realization of word-final <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/ə/</span>. It was added a few months ago and wasn’t present before – I even doubt that’s the most common realization. And since transcriptions do not match, I’m tempted to revert that. Thanks for pointing that out! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241026181100-Isoglosse-20241026175300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241026181100-Isoglosse-20241026175300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241026181100-Isoglosse-20241026175300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Isoglosse-20241026190100-IvanScrooge98-20241026181100"></span>I also had this thought when I saw the guideline: Is this really the most common realisation? Then I did two things: I checked a few reference sources, which agreed that <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA" title="Help:IPA">[ɛ]</a></span> or, more precisely, <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA" title="Help:IPA">[e̞]</a></span> is the most common realisation in all registers. (I'm on mobile again, but I'm happy to provide a source if needed.) Also, I watched the evening news of ORF, the Austrian public broadcasting service, and hardly heard a single schwa. So the guidelines seem to be accurate in this respect, but the question still stands if this couldn't be covered by a diaphonemic transcription. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Isoglosse&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isoglosse (page does not exist)">Isoglosse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isoglosse" title="User talk:Isoglosse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Isoglosse-20241026190100-IvanScrooge98-20241026181100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Isoglosse-20241026190100-IvanScrooge98-20241026181100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Isoglosse-20241026190100-IvanScrooge98-20241026181100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241026190500-Isoglosse-20241026190100"></span>Oh, that’s interesting! It would definitely be useful if you could provide a ref on the help key, since the matter is not dealt with at the articles <a href="/wiki/Austrian_German" title="Austrian German">Austrian German</a> and <a href="/wiki/Swiss_Standard_German" title="Swiss Standard German">Swiss Standard German</a>. But then we’ll have to make sure linked IPA transcriptions match the key. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241026190500-Isoglosse-20241026190100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241026190500-Isoglosse-20241026190100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241026190500-Isoglosse-20241026190100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Isoglosse-20241028171900-IvanScrooge98-20241026190500"></span>So, this is from Krech et al. (2009), <i>Deutsches Aussprachewörterbuch</i> (which is also mentioned in the reference section of the guidelines), relating to Austrian German:</dd> <dd>“Das konsonantisch ungedeckte <-e> wird in allen Registern und Regionen als leicht offenes bis offenes kurzes [e̞] gesprochen, dessen Artikulationsstelle gegenüber [ɛ] zwar ein wenig gegen die Mitte eingerückt ist, was aber akustisch nicht als Schwa-Laut wahrnehmbar ist. Es heißt also [lˈib̥e̞] <i>Liebe,</i> [tˈiʃe̞] <i>Tische,</i> [ɡ̊rˈoːse̞] <i>große,</i> [ˈinsb̥e̞z̥ɔnd̥ɐre̞] <i>insbesondere.</i>” (Unchecked <-e> is close-mid to open-mid [e̞] in all registers and regions; though slightly centralised relative to [ɛ], it does not sound schwa-like.)</dd> <dd>As you can see in the transcriptions, /ɪ/ is rendered as [i]. So, if we use [e] or [ɛ] instead of [ə], why don’t we use [i] instead of [ɪ] etc. as well? I think it would make sense to decide on an established convention to follow in the transcription of Austrian Standard German and then to apply it consistently. Krech et al. (2009) would certainly be a candidate because it also covers Swiss Standard German. There are a few peculiarities about their transcriptions (e.g., they use /aɛ̯/, /aɔ̯/, /ɔœ̯/ instead of /aɪ, aʊ, ɔɪ/, and they place the stress mark immediately before the stressed vowel, as shown above). But we wouldn’t have to follow them in that (because it is not in line with other reference works).</dd> <dd>There is one more inconsistency in the guidelines for German that I have noticed: For /œːɐ̯/ (DE/AT) and /øːr/ (CH), the guidelines give <i>surfen, Gouverneur</i> as example words, but all reference works agree that these words have different vowels, namely /œːɐ̯/ for <i>surfen</i> (which tends to collapse with native /œʁ ~ œɐ̯/ as in <i>Törtchen</i>) and /øːɐ̯/ for <i>Gouverneur</i> (which also appears in native words, such as <i>Möhrchen</i>). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Isoglosse&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isoglosse (page does not exist)">Isoglosse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isoglosse" title="User talk:Isoglosse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Isoglosse-20241028171900-IvanScrooge98-20241026190500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Isoglosse-20241028171900-IvanScrooge98-20241026190500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Isoglosse-20241028171900-IvanScrooge98-20241026190500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241028173000-Isoglosse-20241028171900"></span>Now, those <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[i]</span> transcriptions complicate things a bit, since they also suggest that there is no distinction between <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/i/</span> and <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/iː/</span> in Austrian German; is that so? As for <i>Gouverneur</i>, a quick search is enough to prove you right so I’ll remove that right away from the help (it would be great if you could think of another example to replace it – let me know). ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241028173000-Isoglosse-20241028171900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241028173000-Isoglosse-20241028171900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241028173000-Isoglosse-20241028171900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Isoglosse-20241029095600-IvanScrooge98-20241028173000"></span>There is a distinction between /ɪ/ and /iː/, but it is only quantitative rather than quantitative <i>and</i> qualitative, as in many parts of Germany. Here is the quote from Krech et al. (2009):</dd> <dd>“Der qualitative Unterschied zwischen Kürzen und Längen ist in allen Registern bei den Hochzungenvokalen gering, so dass die Kürzen im Gegensatz zur Standardaussprache in Deutschland, besonders aber in Mittel- und Norddeutschland nur ein wenig ungespannter sind als die gespannten Längen und sich in der Transkription dieselben Vokalzeichen empfehlen, z.B. [b̥ˈitn̩] <i>bitten</i> – [b̥ˈiːtn̩] <i>bieten,</i> [hˈisn̩] <i>hissen</i> – [hˈiːsn̩] <i>hießen,</i> [pˈupe̞] <i>Puppe</i> – [hˈuːpe̞] <i>Hupe,</i> [b̥ˈuse̞] <i>Busse</i> – [b̥ˈuːse̞] <i>Buße,</i> [v̥ˈyln̩], <i>füllen</i> – [v̥ˈyːln̩] <i>fühlen.</i>” (The qualitative difference between short and long close vowels is so small, with ‘lax’ short vowels being hardly less tense than tense long vowels, that it is advisable to use the same phonetic symbol.)</dd> <dd>Additional examples for /œːɐ̯/ would be <i>Service</i> or <i>Flirt.</i> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Isoglosse&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isoglosse (page does not exist)">Isoglosse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isoglosse" title="User talk:Isoglosse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Isoglosse-20241029095600-IvanScrooge98-20241028173000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Isoglosse-20241029095600-IvanScrooge98-20241028173000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Isoglosse-20241029095600-IvanScrooge98-20241028173000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241029130300-Isoglosse-20241029095600"></span>Thanks for the insight! It’s thus only a matter of preference over the symbol, but I think it would be better to open a discussion at the help talk. As for Austrian and Swiss final <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/ɛ/</span>, I’ll soon reinstate it with the proper referencing and change the related transcriptions. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241029130300-Isoglosse-20241029095600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241029130300-Isoglosse-20241029095600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241029130300-Isoglosse-20241029095600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241029140200-Isoglosse-20241029095600"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Isoglosse&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isoglosse (page does not exist)">Isoglosse</a>: could you tell me what page the excerpt about <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[e̞]</span> is? ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241029140200-Isoglosse-20241029095600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241029140200-Isoglosse-20241029095600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241029140200-Isoglosse-20241029095600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Isoglosse-20241029162000-IvanScrooge98-20241029140200"></span>Well, everything is a matter of symbol preference (or convention) when it comes to phonetic transcriptions, isn’t it? 🙃 What I am trying to say is: /ɪ/ is not [ɪ] in Austrian German but [i] and /ə/ is not [ə] but [e~ɛ] – but the current guidelines only reflect one of these aspects. And there is probably more that is missing (I only had a quick look at the rest of the chapter). So right now, it feels inconsistent to me. It would probably make sense to open a discussion on it.</dd> <dd>The excerpt about [e̞] is on p. 246 of Krech et al. (2009). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Isoglosse&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isoglosse (page does not exist)">Isoglosse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isoglosse" title="User talk:Isoglosse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-Isoglosse-20241029162000-IvanScrooge98-20241029140200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Isoglosse-20241029162000-IvanScrooge98-20241029140200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Isoglosse-20241029162000-IvanScrooge98-20241029140200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241029162900-Isoglosse-20241029162000"></span>Yeah, considering the help already lists ⟨<span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA" lang="und-Latn-fonipa">i</span>⟩ it makes sense to use it for Austrian German <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">/ɪ/</span> too, since we might end up with transcriptions like <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[siˈnɪstɐ]</span> where two different symbols basically represent the same sound. I still feel it would be a big step for a couple users to take boldly though, so expanding the discussion at a public talk is best in my opinion. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241029162900-Isoglosse-20241029162000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241029162900-Isoglosse-20241029162000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241029162900-Isoglosse-20241029162000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119003600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119003600"></span>ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119003600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=86" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119003600-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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Just done it, let me know! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><b><span style="color:#0096FF">Ivan</span><span style="color:#FFAC1C">Scrooge</span><span style="color:#0096FF">98</span></b></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:grey">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-IvanScrooge98-20241124141400-JacktheBrown-20241124140600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-20241124141400-JacktheBrown-20241124140600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-20241124141400-JacktheBrown-20241124140600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JacktheBrown-20241124141800-IvanScrooge98-20241124141400"></span>Excellent, thank you very much. <a href="/wiki/User:JacktheBrown" title="User:JacktheBrown">JacktheBrown</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JacktheBrown" title="User talk:JacktheBrown">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-JacktheBrown-20241124141800-IvanScrooge98-20241124141400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JacktheBrown-20241124141800-IvanScrooge98-20241124141400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JacktheBrown-20241124141800-IvanScrooge98-20241124141400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_27" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_27-20241127195400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_27-20241127195400"></span>Disambiguation link notification for November 27<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_27-20241127195400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IvanScrooge98&action=edit&section=88" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for November 27"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-20241127195400-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_27"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Gl%C3%B3ria_Pires" title="Glória Pires">Glória Pires</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Brazilian" class="mw-disambig" title="Brazilian">Brazilian</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98#c-DPL_bot-20241127195400-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-20241127195400-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_27"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-20241127195400-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_27"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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