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Stopping the ability of someone to carry a gun invites crime.<br/><br/></p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1066801878"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1066801878/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 8:10 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1066801878">Leesa Monroe</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">This should give us pause</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1004545301"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1004545301/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 8:52 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1004545301">Mac Mcclure</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Will the next TT article be an in depth report of the crime rates of the cities that do not allow open carry? I am sure it will not happen because it does not fit your agenda.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 8:57 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> John Webb </span> </p> <p class="comment">A comment was made on a local (Texas) radio station this morning that the "wild, wild west" included cities such as Tombstone and Dodge City where famous shootouts occurred. It was also pointed out that those cities had strict gun control laws, whereas most of the so-called wild west, where guns were carried/worn as a part of daily life, was peaceful.<br/><br/>So is it better to restrict carrying of handguns to those who are lawbreakers or to allow honest citizens to also be armed?</p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1040736117"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1040736117/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 9:06 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1040736117">Craig Steiger</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">And it's going to trigger 911 calls and waste police time</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 9:28 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> Tom Embleton </span> </p> <p class="comment">“If open carry is good enough for Massachusetts, it’s good enough for the state of Texas,” Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican who has promised he will sign open carry legislation if it reaches his desk, said shortly after he was elected in November.<br/><br/>By that logic, then Texas should socialize medical care (Romney signed it into law), Texas should become Democratic (Mass. is one of the two most Democratic states in the US), bring back the Salem Witch Trials (using mass hysteria to get rid of all those abortion-loving women) and becoming the first state in the US to approve same-sex marriage in 2004.<br/></p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=563054888"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/563054888/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 9:37 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=563054888">Andrew Goldberg</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">right wingers need to feel better about their tiny penises and genocidal impulses, whatcha gon' do?</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496813857"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1496813857/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 9:50 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496813857">Mike Openshaw</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">And list the number and detail of problems this has caused in the majority of states this IS legal in. The same folks had predicted conceal carry was going to turn Texas into the Wild West. If you actually got ANY predicition right on gun laws, I'd be concerned.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=801200222"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/801200222/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 9:54 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=801200222">Victor L. Hernandez DelaParra</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Just like Mogadishu...</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=801200222"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/801200222/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 9:56 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=801200222">Victor L. Hernandez DelaParra</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">The NRA Kochsuckers are hereby summoned to post your hatred of life and disgusting addiction to deadly weapons...</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1126883533"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1126883533/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 10:06 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1126883533">Chad W. Eaton</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">#darwin</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006564286031"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100006564286031/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 10:09 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006564286031">James Stanczak</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Schools are brining in skeet teams and gun safety classes now in Texas</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000396630830"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100000396630830/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 10:15 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000396630830">Gwenn Elizabeth Henderson</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">I'm thinking open carry is banned at the state capital though</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=682138978"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/682138978/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 10:15 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=682138978">Diane Treider</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Because Jesus would carry his Glock to Kroger.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1399925636"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1399925636/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 10:20 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1399925636">Joan Hardy</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Oh, great, we get to experiment on our citizens. Want to be able to sue the entire legislative body that voted for this nonsense when people die.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000532924140"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100000532924140/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 10:21 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000532924140">Mike Moeller</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Regardless of anyone's political agenda, I think this is one best articles on guns and self-defense. http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-riddle-of-the-gun</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1626382364"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1626382364/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 10:28 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1626382364">Meeks Aida</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Would not be the largest cities for long!</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1219178369"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1219178369/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 10:30 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1219178369">Steve Fagan</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">The Texas Tribune is rapidly transforming itself into a mouthpiece for all things right wing. This essentially is a justification for open carry in the state's larges cities, basically saying that just because they don't do it Chicago, New York and Boston (etc.) doesn't mean Texas can't, cause those others states all ban guns anyhow -- which is, of course, bullshit. Wonder how much longer is will be before the Texas Tribune openly dubs itself the Fox News of Texas?</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000706590403"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100000706590403/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 10:47 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000706590403">Heather Ammons</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Open-carry is open-season on all of us. NRA & our corrupt legislators are arming America. This will blow-up in our faces.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001816260113"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100001816260113/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 10:55 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001816260113">James Moore</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Well, the easy answer is for the govt not to attempt to restrict firearms of any type period. Problem solved. James for Prez 2016!!!</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000713138135"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100000713138135/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 11:11 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000713138135">Gil Mauricio</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">So?</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 11:13 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> Joe Skeptic </span> </p> <p class="comment">I have read people are paid to post comments (trolls?) and it seems the TexTrib gets its share and more.<br/> <br/>Can there be that many shallow thinking, emotional commenters? We all know shallow is common however how many read articles then make time to add their 2¢? The "low information" voter doesn't trade in the consumption & creation of information, not usually. <br/><br/>Examples: <br/>1. "This should give us pause." Deep as a floor tile, regarding a Constitutional Right.<br/>2. "And it's going to trigger 911 calls and waste police time." But not in the 2 dozen other states, just Texas. Right. <br/>3. "By that logic, then Texas should socialize medical care (Romney...." The issue has NOTHING to do with national medical treatment or a Massachusetts Governor.<br/>4. "right wingers need to feel better about their tiny penises and genocidal impulses..." Res ipsa loquitor<br/>5. "Just like Mogadishu." Another floor tile. <br/>6. "The NRA Kochsuckers are hereby summoned to post your hatred of life and disgusting addiction to deadly weapons..." The new floor is coming along....<br/>7. "Because Jesus would carry his Glock to Kroger." :-/<br/><br/>Wow. Just wow. </p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1331863723"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1331863723/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 11:20 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1331863723">Chuck Wright</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">In 2012, the city of Chicago lead the nation in murders . . .. carry laws were changed and in 9 months, those numbers plummeted. . . .I'm sure the simply minded will freak out but facts don't support the hysteria. . . .</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1104977483"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1104977483/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 11:31 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1104977483">Bill Blackmon</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">That's what makes Texas Exceptional! Don't Mess with Texas.......</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1285059807"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1285059807/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 11:31 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1285059807">Mike G. Edgmon</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Police do not protect people nor prevent crime, they just investigate and arrest. If you wait on them, in a critical situation, you'll be dead or in critical condition.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=679533346"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/679533346/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 12:05 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=679533346">Mike Sullivan</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Texas has a long and proud tradition as an outlier.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552152721"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/552152721/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 12:58 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552152721">Dave C Albannach</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Because more guns in a country with way too many gun murders will really help</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000538086160"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100000538086160/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 1:28 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000538086160">Matt McGraw</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Murica! Owning more guns is my Gawd given right.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000532924140"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100000532924140/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 1:58 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000532924140">Mike Moeller</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Texas CHL-Holders are the safest group of people in this state? https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/reports/convrates.htm</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 2:21 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> Mike Wazowski </span> </p> <p class="comment">@Andrew Goldberg <br/>> right wingers need to feel better about their tiny penises and genocidal impulses, whatcha gon' do?<br/><br/>Whatcha gonna do the next time Barack kills American Muslims overseas without a trial or jury, or permits Iran to arm itself with nukes? <br/><br/>Well, whatcha gonna do, Andrew??!<br/><br/>Exactly, not a damn thing.<br/><br/></p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 2:27 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> D W </span> </p> <p class="comment">a return to the old west? i always expected this, and of course any and all can have a gun on their hip. course we can also have the old gun fights to go with it</p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 2:50 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> Mike Wazowski </span> </p> <p class="comment">@ D W<br/><br/>> a return to the old west? i always expected this, and of course any and all can have a gun on their <br/>> hip. course we can also have the old gun fights to go with it<br/><br/>In an *imperfect world* where criminals and the insane can walk on a campus or business and KILL YOU ON THE SPOT before the Police can save you, an armed public makes perfect sense.<br/><br/></p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001679578941"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100001679578941/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 2:56 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001679578941">Patrick Smith</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">you voted for Obama didn't you.lol</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1391809693"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1391809693/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 4:51 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1391809693">Jo Anne Christian</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Hope someone is listening, that is a grownup.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 6:44 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> Brendon H </span> </p> <p class="comment">Arizona did it a few years back ***GASP*** WITHOUT A PERMIT! You don't need a government permission slip in Arizona to exercise your constitutional rights, either openly or concealed. And last time I checked Phoenix, AZ is the 10the largest city (metro area) in the U.S. All the anti-gun nuts there thought there would be shoot outs old west style......it never happened. When the person next to you is likely to have a concealed weapon, you are less likely to try and rob him, period. The less restrictions the better.<br/><br/>Texas always talks big about seceding and so forth, but is really behind the times when it comes to being conservative and libertarian. "Shall not be infringed" is pretty plain and simple when you don't sit there and play semantic games. </p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1241853526"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1241853526/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 8:11 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1241853526">Lyle Mackey</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Wait a minute... “If open carry is good enough for Massachusetts, it’s good enough for the state of Texas".... So if it's good enough for Massachusetts, it's good enough for Texas?<br/><br/>Can we assume this means Governor Abbott is no longer opposed to Affordable Care Act?</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 9:31 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> Mike Wazowski </span> </p> <p class="comment">@Lyle Mackey<br/><br/>> Wait a minute... “If open carry is good enough for Massachusetts, it’s good enough for the <br/>> state of Texas".... So if it's good enough for Massachusetts, it's good enough for Texas?<br/><br/>>>> Can we assume this means Governor Abbott is no longer opposed to Affordable Care Act?<br/><br/><br/>LOL -- there's nothing AFFORDABLE about the ACA. It's called ObamaCare for a reason.<br/><br/><br/>Every Liberal knucklehead politician is protected by ARMED guards with Guns. Obama, Warren, Pelosi, Reid, Hillary, etc. The same Liberal knuckleheads trying to ban Guns ... also embrace Guns.<br/><br/>What's good for Liberal knuckleheads is good for the citizenry. <br/><br/><br/>If it makes you feel uncomfortable to carry a Gun for your own protection, don't worry. If a Liberal gunman (and yes, it's almost always a Liberal) tries to kill you in a public place, I'll protect you, too.<br/><br/><br/></p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448981508"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100001448981508/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 3 @ 11:18 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448981508">Amy Day</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">everyone will be safer ... this will prevent crime</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 4 @ 12:16 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> kevin mcnamara </span> </p> <p class="comment">Quality health care for the vast majority of the population is good enough for Massachusetts, as are environmental protections. Get working on something useful for once!</p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1279525328"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1279525328/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 4 @ 12:30 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1279525328">Bob Horton</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">No prob. Texas and apparently Texas voters have become accustomed to being outliers; #1 in worker deaths, #1 in poverty level jobs, 49th in school funding...you get it. Outlier: a data point so far from the average as to not be included in calculating the average.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=562454351"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/562454351/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 4 @ 5:10 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=562454351">Rose Lynn Scott</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Frightening</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004072637449"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100004072637449/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 4 @ 8:28 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004072637449">Jason Wong</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Chicago, LA, and NYC have some of the highest gun crimes in the world. And filled with violent gangs.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=686800406"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/686800406/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 4 @ 9:27 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=686800406">Kerry Brix</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">The definition of insanity. Texas lawmakers are insane. How will banks and store owners know if the paranoid walking in with a loaded .38 is a hostile armed robber or just an idiot with a lethal weapon? This is the result of voter apathy that has allowed motivated fanatics to gain control of the second most imporatnt state in the union. Absolute insanity.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002274408492"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100002274408492/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 4 @ 11:49 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002274408492">Larry Arnold</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">The city of Houston "allowing" open carry just sounds wrong. "Dragged kicking and screaming into..." might be more accurate. ;-)</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 4 @ 12:45 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> Jack S. </span> </p> <p class="comment">Kerry Brix..."How will banks and store owners know if the paranoid walking in with a loaded .38 is a hostile armed robber or just an idiot with a lethal weapon? "<br/><br/>How do you know if someone carrying a knife with the clip showing is not going to pull it out and attack you?<br/><br/>How do you know if a cop with a gun showing is not going to pull it out and go crazy?<br/><br/>Did you know you probably pass by at least 10 people per day who already carry concealed?<br/><br/>You figure out if they are hostile armed robbers by using common sense. This means they pull it out, point it in your face and rob you. Can you tell the difference between a hostile robber and a law-abiding citizen.<br/><br/>How do you know whether a ripped muscle head whose fists could kill you is not going to go crazy and start attacking you when he walks into your business or bank?<br/><br/>How do you know whether someone who drives a car is not going to steer it toward you on the sidewalk, floor it and mow you down or not?<br/><br/>Have you ever tried using common sense or not?</p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1022494395"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1022494395/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 4 @ 2:03 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1022494395">Scott Rogers</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">I just love how everybody wants to change the constitution of the United States. I also would like to know why everybody seems to think it is okay to tell me that I cant carry a gun or shoot a gun or even own a gun. I spent 21 years in the Army who are you to tell me that I cant defend my family. Who are you to tell me that I cant participate in a sport that I enjoy.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 4 @ 2:14 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> S Spacek </span> </p> <p class="comment">I'm a Texas Native livin' on the East Coast for some time (never owned a gun, but most, if not all, my male relatives do). <br/> One thing noticed/learned about FEW states outside TX that severely restricting gun ownership (NY, IL, NJ): Their Licensed Drivers score poorly on insurance industry surveys regarding Knowledge of "commonsense" Roadway Laws. (In lieu of a gun). They may honk horns at others, use their vehicle as a gun-like "weapon," knowing they'll wont get shot back/retaliated upon. <br/> You can bet Texans and states with high gun ownership KNOW their road laws and may possess better driving "manners" in the long run. Gun-owning Drivers wont tolerate unruly chumps tailgating from behind or honking; they probably wont be dialing 911 for help, they'll take the law into their own hands, usually be successful (often legally be justified) at that. </p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007956514827"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100007956514827/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 5 @ 7:27 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007956514827">MIke Warren</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Texas is screwing this up..... carrying a gun is a right. you do not need a permission slip for a right. they need to keep up with their long guns until its a protected right</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 5 @ 4:45 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> Stu Chisholm </span> </p> <p class="comment">First off, this alarmist screed is lacking any logical basis. Why should it matter what size a city is? Anyone looking at statistics, especially those pertaining to crime, understands that crime is more frequent where people are concentrated. Our Canadian neighbors to the north can attest to that, their biggest crime centers being Toronto and Vancouver; more people = more crime.<br/><br/>Secondly, Texas is virtually alone in preventing citizens from openly carrying firearms, with the exception of Liberal meccas like New York City. While I have nothing against liberals, their official policies also lack logic. Again, one must study crime in order to get a clear picture of real life. It is extremely seldom, if ever, that a gang member or criminal arrives at the scene of the crime with an openly carried, holstered firearm. Whenever you see this, it's a good bet that such a carrier, then, is a police officer or responsibly armed citizen.<br/><br/>Next, the author has it wrong about Detroit. Any non-felon is legally able to purchase and possess a firearm can strap it on and head out the door! No "permission" is required. All those limitations apply ONLY to concealed carry, where a permit IS needed. Peculiar to Michigan law, by the way, is their list of "no carry zones." These include hospitals, day care centers, sports arenas and schools. Neither concealed or unlicensed open carry are allowed in these places, BUT, a person with a concealed carry permit (CPL) CAN carry OPENLY in all of those places. This provision is basically an acknowledgement and vote of confidence in the training and extensive background check that permit holders have gone through. Recent events where CPLs, in compliance with the law, have attended school events openly carrying and upset some people have set a chain of events in motion that may well do away with these zones for license holders.<br/><br/>My fourth point: those Texans upset by the display of openly slung rifles should get behind this bill, since it will give residents the option to carry a handgun instead. The 2nd Amendment guarantees a right to "bear" (or carry) arms, and not prohibiting rifles is the way Texas has lived up to the letter of the law while skirting it with their provision against openly carried handguns (while charging a FEE to permit concealed carry). So, more simply stated, this law will put Houston in line with the Constitution and will reduce the frequency of hoplophobes encountering big, scary rifles at the local Starbuck's.<br/><br/>My final point: criminals don't care. Period. None of these laws helps or hinders them. They're going to carry their guns whenever, wherever and however they like. Any and all legal prohibitions ONLY impact the law abiding, putting them at a disadvantage. Criminals, gangs, pimps and drug dealers won't take any training; they won't submit to any background checks; they don't observe "no guns allowed" signs. The only thing that gun restrictions do is hobble the innocent. The logic is both simple and irrefutable. Get with the program, Texas!</p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000341866001"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/100000341866001/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 5 @ 10:11 p.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000341866001">David Noble</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">I seem to recall the same "rivers of blood in the streets" civilian disarmament agitprop and beta-male penis references when Texas enacted permitted concealed carry. They should be advancing constitutional carry, but I guess it's baby steps in Austin for now. Next on the chopping block...hopefully... background checks. Yes, I said it, background checks. Gone. If you believe that a forced abnegation of one's the 5th Amendment, and arguably, one's 4th Amendment rights, under penalty of perjury, in order to exercise one's 2nd Amendment rights is reasonable.... there's room at the asylum for you.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 6 @ 10:38 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> Robert Ries </span> </p> <p class="comment">Has this been a problem in the states that already have it, yes or no?<br/><br/>If "yes", please present your statistical evidence.<br/><br/>If "no", please cease your fear-mongering.<br/></p> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1608885289"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1608885289/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 6 @ 10:39 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1608885289">Robert Ries</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Has this been a problem in the states that already have it, yes or no?<br/><br/>If "yes", please present your statistical evidence.<br/><br/>If "no", please cease your fear-mongering.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1458524915"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001im_/http://graph.facebook.com/1458524915/picture?type=square"/> </a> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 6 @ 10:48 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1458524915">Sam Cook</a> </span> via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837">Texas Tribune on Facebook</a> </p> <p class="comment">Houston and Dallas would become an example to be followed.</p> <ul class="actions clearfix"> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150407205001/https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/posts/10153126577435837"><span>+</span> Reply</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </li> <li> <div class="comment_author_image"> </div> <div class="comment_body"> <div class="comment_time"> April 6 @ 10:56 a.m. </div> <p class="byline"> <span class="author"> Ernie Alanis </span> </p> <p class="comment">Nothing is going to happen. People are not stupid. The people who give negative comments on Open Carry are more than likely the people who are criminals or have been in trouble with the Law at one time or the other, and can not posses a weapon legally. Other states have open carry and none of them complain like babies. These comments you all make is only assumption. 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