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I think too many people take electric light for granted, and some even look at it as their mortal enemy - the International Dark Skies Association for instance. </p><p>I suggest the removal of the term "light bulb" from any article on lighting. It is fine to equate "light bulb" to "lamp", but the lighting industry exclusively uses the word lamp for the "light bulb". "Light bulb" to any lighting person means the glass enclosure of the lamp. </p><p>Secondly, I would suggest change to the 1991 Philips entry to simply call it an "induction lamp" like the entire industry does. I would suggest "1991 Philips introduces the magnetic induction lamp; a variety of fluorescent lamp that lasts 60,000 hours." How this lamp works is worth an article unto itself since it is very interesting. I however will leave that to someone that works for a lamp (not a light bulb) company. </p><p>Finally, you can find an elaborate treatise on this subject in David DiLaura's "A History of Light and Lighting" available through the Illuminating Engineering Soci3ety of North America (www.iesna.org). I would suggest the addition of this to a list of further reading. All proceeds from the book go to support the non-profit society. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ericbikeco&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ericbikeco (page does not exist)">Ericbikeco</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ericbikeco&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ericbikeco (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology#c-Ericbikeco-2008-02-08T17:43:00.000Z-Some_Suggestions_and_Comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ericbikeco-2008-02-08T17:43:00.000Z-Some_Suggestions_and_Comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-08T17:43:00.000Z","author":"Ericbikeco","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ericbikeco-2008-02-08T17:43:00.000Z-Some_Suggestions_and_Comment","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ericbikeco-2008-02-08T17:43:00.000Z-Some_Suggestions_and_Comment"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Deleted_these_portions-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z-Deleted_these_portions&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Deleted these portions&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Deleted these portions&quot;}--><h2 id="Deleted_these_portions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deleted_these_portions-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deleted_these_portions-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z"></span>Deleted these portions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deleted_these_portions-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Deleted these portions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deleted_these_portions-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z-Deleted_these_portions"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z-Deleted_these_portions","timestamp":"2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Deleted_these_portions-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z-Deleted_these_portions&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Deleted these portions&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Deleted these portions&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z-Deleted_these_portions"></span>"*770 - Iron horseshoes come into common use </p> <ul><li>1492 - Leonardo da Vinci describes a flying machine"</li></ul> <p>Iron horseshoes should not belong in this list...you might as well add the wheel/stirrup/etc if you want to add the horseshoe. Furthermore, someone "imagining" a method of transportation doesn't warrant being on this list either. This list is purely for actual pieces of transportations used/invented. <a href="/wiki/User:Intranetusa" title="User:Intranetusa">Intranetusa</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology#c-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z-Deleted_these_portions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z-Deleted_these_portions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z","author":"Intranetusa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z-Deleted_these_portions","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Intranetusa-2007-10-09T19:07:00.000Z-Deleted_these_portions"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Permission_from_Niel_Brandt" data-mw-thread-id="h-Permission_from_Niel_Brandt"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Permission_from_Niel_Brandt"></span>Permission from Niel Brandt<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Permission_from_Niel_Brandt"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Permission from Niel Brandt"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Permission_from_Niel_Brandt","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>adapted from list originally compiled by Niel Brandt RE: Copyright Permissions on this and other timelines developed by Niel Brandt, the following email exchange took place: </p><p>"Niel, </p><p>I saw your timeline pages, and thought they would be really valuable for the wikipedia project (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.wikipedia.com">http://www.wikipedia.com</a>). Do you have any problem with someone posting them there (and setting up links)? Wikipedia uses GNU Free Document License, so your work may be redistributed by anyone in any format. </p><p>Thanks, </p><p>David Levinson" </p><p>To which was responded </p><p>"hi, </p><p>this is fine with me. good luck! </p><p>cheers, niel" </p><p>Source of timelines is various (they have been reproduced across the web). One is <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.gsu.edu/other/timeline.html">http://www.gsu.edu/other/timeline.html</a> </p><p>-- <a href="/wiki/User:DavidLevinson" title="User:DavidLevinson">user:DavidLevinson</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Cugnot_tractor-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z-Cugnot_tractor&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Cugnot tractor&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Cugnot tractor&quot;}--><h2 id="Cugnot_tractor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cugnot_tractor-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cugnot_tractor-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z"></span>Cugnot tractor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cugnot_tractor-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Cugnot tractor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Cugnot_tractor-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z-Cugnot_tractor"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z-Cugnot_tractor","timestamp":"2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Cugnot_tractor-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z-Cugnot_tractor&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Cugnot tractor&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Cugnot tractor&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z-Cugnot_tractor"></span>Somebody needs to check the Cugnot tractor. There's serious doubt it ever actually ran, from what I've read. <a href="/wiki/User:Trekphiler" title="User:Trekphiler">Trekphiler</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology#c-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z-Cugnot_tractor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z-Cugnot_tractor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z","author":"Trekphiler","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z-Cugnot_tractor","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trekphiler-2005-12-02T21:05:00.000Z-Cugnot_tractor"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Magnetic_refrigeration-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z-Magnetic_refrigeration&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Magnetic refrigeration&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Magnetic refrigeration&quot;}--><h2 id="Magnetic_refrigeration" data-mw-thread-id="h-Magnetic_refrigeration-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Magnetic_refrigeration-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z"></span>Magnetic refrigeration<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Magnetic_refrigeration-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Magnetic refrigeration"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Magnetic_refrigeration-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z-Magnetic_refrigeration"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z-Magnetic_refrigeration","timestamp":"2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Magnetic_refrigeration-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z-Magnetic_refrigeration&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Magnetic refrigeration&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Magnetic refrigeration&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z-Magnetic_refrigeration"></span>... is it already included in the Timeline? johannes muhr, graz (A) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.141.25.146" title="Special:Contributions/91.141.25.146">91.141.25.146</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:91.141.25.146&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:91.141.25.146 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology#c-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z-Magnetic_refrigeration" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 15 June 2009 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z-Magnetic_refrigeration"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z","author":"91.141.25.146","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z-Magnetic_refrigeration","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-91.141.25.146-2009-06-15T17:41:00.000Z-Magnetic_refrigeration"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Some_text_copied_to_1800\u20131809-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z-Some_text_copied_to_1800\u20131809&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Some text copied to 1800\u20131809&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Some text copied to 1800\u20131809&quot;}--><h2 id="Some_text_copied_to_1800–1809" data-mw-thread-id="h-Some_text_copied_to_1800–1809-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z"><span id="Some_text_copied_to_1800.E2.80.931809"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Some_text_copied_to_1800–1809-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z"></span>Some text copied to <a href="/wiki/1800%E2%80%931809" class="mw-redirect" title="1800–1809">1800–1809</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Some_text_copied_to_1800–1809-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: Some text copied to 1800–1809"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Some_text_copied_to_1800\u20131809-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z-Some_text_copied_to_1800\u20131809"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z-Some_text_copied_to_1800\u20131809","timestamp":"2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Some_text_copied_to_1800\u20131809-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z-Some_text_copied_to_1800\u20131809&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Some text copied to 1800\u20131809&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Some text copied to 1800\u20131809&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z-Some_text_copied_to_1800–1809"></span>Hi, folks! A while back, I copied some text from this article over to <a href="/wiki/1800-1809" class="mw-redirect" title="1800-1809">1800-1809</a>. This isn't a field that I have expertise in, so further editing of the work in context from other editors here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- <a href="/wiki/User:RobLa" title="User:RobLa">RobLa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RobLa" title="User talk:RobLa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology#c-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z-Some_text_copied_to_1800–1809" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:01, 1 May 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z-Some_text_copied_to_1800–1809"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z","author":"RobLa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z-Some_text_copied_to_1800\u20131809","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RobLa-2010-05-01T02:01:00.000Z-Some_text_copied_to_1800–1809"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Date for invention of the kamal&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Date for invention of the kamal&quot;}--><h2 id="Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z"></span>Date for invention of the kamal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: Date for invention of the kamal"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal","timestamp":"2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Date for invention of the kamal&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Date for invention of the kamal&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal"></span>This article lists the invention of the kamal as 700, but the <a href="/wiki/Kamal_(navigation)" title="Kamal (navigation)">Kamal (navigation)</a> article states it originated in the "late 9th century." That article cites a book to which I don't have access, but I have no reason to doubt. Obviously 700 is a long way from late 9th century. Anyone else able to confirm the date? <a href="/wiki/User:LarryJeff" title="User:LarryJeff">LarryJeff</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LarryJeff" title="User talk:LarryJeff">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology#c-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 24 May 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z","author":"LarryJeff","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LarryJeff-2011-05-24T22:55:00.000Z-Date_for_invention_of_the_kamal"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Rocket_propulsion-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z-Rocket_propulsion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Rocket propulsion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Rocket propulsion&quot;}--><h2 id="Rocket_propulsion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rocket_propulsion-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rocket_propulsion-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z"></span>Rocket propulsion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rocket_propulsion-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: Rocket propulsion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rocket_propulsion-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z-Rocket_propulsion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Darrelljon-2021-03-11T17:03:00.000Z-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-03-11T17:03:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Rocket_propulsion-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z-Rocket_propulsion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Rocket propulsion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Rocket propulsion&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z-Rocket_propulsion"></span>When was the first rocket propulsion?--<a href="/wiki/User:Darrelljon" title="User:Darrelljon">Darrelljon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Darrelljon" title="User talk:Darrelljon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology#c-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z-Rocket_propulsion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 5 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z-Rocket_propulsion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z","author":"Darrelljon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z-Rocket_propulsion","replies":["c-Darrelljon-2021-03-11T17:03:00.000Z-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z-Rocket_propulsion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Darrelljon-2021-03-11T17:03:00.000Z-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z"></span>It appears 13th century (or before) – <a href="/wiki/Rocket" title="Rocket">Rocket</a> missiles used in China. Rocket powered passenger vehicles did not appear until 1939.--<a href="/wiki/User:Darrelljon" title="User:Darrelljon">Darrelljon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Darrelljon" title="User talk:Darrelljon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology#c-Darrelljon-2021-03-11T17:03:00.000Z-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Darrelljon-2021-03-11T17:03:00.000Z-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-11T17:03:00.000Z","author":"Darrelljon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Darrelljon-2021-03-11T17:03:00.000Z-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Darrelljon-2021-03-11T17:03:00.000Z-Darrelljon-2021-03-05T14:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Table_formatting-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z-Table_formatting&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Table formatting&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Table formatting&quot;}--><h2 id="Table_formatting" data-mw-thread-id="h-Table_formatting-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Table_formatting-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z"></span>Table formatting<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Table_formatting-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: Table formatting"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Table_formatting-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z-Table_formatting"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z-Table_formatting","timestamp":"2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Table_formatting-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z-Table_formatting&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Table formatting&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Table formatting&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z-Table_formatting"></span>Typically timelines seem to be lists (see <a href="/wiki/Timeline_of_the_19th_century" title="Timeline of the 19th century">Timeline of the 19th century</a>). They're only likely to be sorted chronologically. A recent edit made sections of the last few centuries into tables which I don't see the advantage of, and it also combined the early and late periods of both the 19th and 20th centuries into whole centuries. This makes it cumbersome.--<a href="/wiki/User:Darrelljon" title="User:Darrelljon">Darrelljon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Darrelljon" title="User talk:Darrelljon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology#c-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z-Table_formatting" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:34, 15 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z-Table_formatting"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z","author":"Darrelljon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z-Table_formatting","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Darrelljon-2021-03-15T10:34:00.000Z-Table_formatting"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Darrelljon-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Automatic_train_operation-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Darrelljon-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z-Automatic_train_operation&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Automatic train operation&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Automatic train operation&quot;}--><h2 id="Automatic_train_operation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Automatic_train_operation-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Automatic_train_operation-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z"></span>Automatic train operation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Automatic_train_operation-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Darrelljon-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Automatic_train_operation-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Darrelljon-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z-Automatic_train_operation&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Automatic train operation&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Automatic train operation&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Automatic_train_operation#Notable_examples" title="Automatic train operation"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Darrelljon-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z-Automatic_train_operation"></span>Automatic train operation#Notable examples</a> offers examples of automated train technology.--<a href="/wiki/User:Darrelljon" title="User:Darrelljon">Darrelljon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Darrelljon" title="User talk:Darrelljon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology#c-Darrelljon-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z-Automatic_train_operation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 22 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Darrelljon-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z-Automatic_train_operation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z","author":"Darrelljon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Darrelljon-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z-Automatic_train_operation","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Darrelljon-2021-11-22T06:11:00.000Z-Automatic_train_operation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Darrelljon-20230225053700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline-20230225053700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Darrelljon-20230225053700-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;2020s looks more like lists than a timeline&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;2020s looks more like lists than a timeline&quot;}--><h2 id="2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline" data-mw-thread-id="h-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline-20230225053700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline-20230225053700"></span>2020s looks more like lists than a timeline<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline-20230225053700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Darrelljon-20230225053700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline-20230225053700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Darrelljon-20230225053700-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;2020s looks more like lists than a timeline&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;2020s looks more like lists than a timeline&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Darrelljon-20230225053700-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline"></span>2020s looks more like arbitrarily seperated lists (with years) than a chronological timeline. Some items are not significant technological advances for a timeline e.g. Google Maps adds bike sharing, or even the effects of the covid pandemic <a href="/wiki/User:Darrelljon" title="User:Darrelljon">Darrelljon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Darrelljon" title="User talk:Darrelljon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_transportation_technology#c-Darrelljon-20230225053700-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:37, 25 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Darrelljon-20230225053700-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230225053700","author":"Darrelljon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Darrelljon-20230225053700-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Darrelljon-20230225053700-2020s_looks_more_like_lists_than_a_timeline"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐5dc468848‐dh57s Cached time: 20241122160707 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.015 seconds CPU time usage: 0.181 seconds Real time usage: 0.247 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 254/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 20218/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 3/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 6/100 Expensive parser function count: 6/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 16753/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.118/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 2575831/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 181.036 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 100.00% 181.036 1 -total 46.44% 84.066 1 Template:WikiProject_History_of_Science 10.92% 19.772 1 Template:WikiProject_Transport --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:58405-0!canonical and timestamp 20241122160707 and revision id 1205709010. 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