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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Serbia" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Serbia">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Serbia</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Serbia</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Serbia articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Expand-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z-Expand"],"text":"Expand","linkableTitle":"Expand"}--><h2 id="Expand" data-mw-thread-id="h-Expand-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Expand-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z"></span>Expand<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Expand-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Foreign_relations_of_Serbia&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Expand"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Expand-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z-Expand"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T14:28:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z","timestamp":"2011-11-06T14:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Expand-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z-Expand"],"text":"Expand","linkableTitle":"Expand"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z-Expand"></span>I have expanded this template, and more fixes will come. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:WhiteWriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:WhiteWriter (page does not exist)">WhiteWriter </a><sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhiteWriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:WhiteWriter (page does not exist)">speaks</a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Foreign_relations_of_Serbia#c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z-Expand" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 1 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z-Expand"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z","author":"WhiteWriter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z-Expand","replies":["c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T14:28:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z-Expand"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T14:28:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z"></span>What is problem with new template? It is just expanded, as i am creating articles that have notability, and are missing from this page. If you ask me, all countries should have templates like this, if those countries have relevant and notable diplomatic relations. Red links that are not notable will be removed, so, don't worry. If those stayed red for a week or two, no harm will be done. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:WhiteWriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:WhiteWriter (page does not exist)">WhiteWriter </a><sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhiteWriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:WhiteWriter (page does not exist)">speaks</a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Foreign_relations_of_Serbia#c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T14:28:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 6 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T14:28:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-06T14:28:00.000Z","author":"WhiteWriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T14:28:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T14:28:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-01T16:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_don't_like_your_Expansion-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion","c-TransporterMan-2011-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion","c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T16:26:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"],"text":"I don't like your Expansion","linkableTitle":"I don't like your Expansion"}--><h2 id="I_don't_like_your_Expansion" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_don't_like_your_Expansion-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z"><span id="I_don.27t_like_your_Expansion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_don't_like_your_Expansion-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z"></span>I don't like your Expansion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_don't_like_your_Expansion-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Foreign_relations_of_Serbia&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: I don't like your Expansion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_don't_like_your_Expansion-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion","c-TransporterMan-2011-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion","c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T16:26:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T16:26:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion","timestamp":"2011-11-07T16:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_don't_like_your_Expansion-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion","c-TransporterMan-2011-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion","c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T16:26:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"],"text":"I don't like your Expansion","linkableTitle":"I don't like your Expansion"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"></span>Hello WhiteWriter, I had to revert your edits several times because I believe that what you did with your edits is wrong. It is wrong because Serbia is not a powerful country. You say you believe that all foreign relations templates should be like this. This is false. I have looked up at every foreign relations template. Just look at <a href="/wiki/Template:Foreign_relations_of_Russia" title="Template:Foreign relations of Russia">Template:Foreign relations of Russia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Template:Foreign_relations_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Foreign relations of the People's Republic of China">Template:Foreign relations of the People's Republic of China</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Template:Foreign_relations_of_the_United_States" title="Template:Foreign relations of the United States">Template:Foreign relations of the United States</a>, along with <a href="/wiki/Template:Foreign_relations_of_the_European_Union" title="Template:Foreign relations of the European Union">Template:Foreign relations of the European Union</a>. These are all great powers. Serbia is not a great power. That is why your template had been reverted. Please I don't want to engage in a edit war with you. I hope that when you see these templates you will know what I mean. Please look at these templates above and you will find out.<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RohilKxy" title="User talk:RohilKxy">talk</a> 6, November 2011 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>But, this template is not about "How great is this country", but as about foreign relations between countries. It is not important how "big power" is country in question. That is not reference. Do you have any wiki guideline what you could point? My template is based in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a>, WP:SIGCOV, and sure, WP:TMP. You opinion is not important per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JUSTDONTLIKEIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JUSTDONTLIKEIT">Wikipedia:JUSTDONTLIKEIT</a>, so you should give me reasonable reference or allow me to further fix template. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:WhiteWriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:WhiteWriter (page does not exist)">WhiteWriter </a><sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhiteWriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:WhiteWriter (page does not exist)">speaks</a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Foreign_relations_of_Serbia#c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:11, 6 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z","author":"WhiteWriter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion","replies":["c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T10:43:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T10:43:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z"></span>Look WhiteWriter you can't make this template into this format because it is only applied to these templates only. I have looked at every foreign relations template and this is what I have found:</dd> <dd>Only <a href="/wiki/Template:Foreign_relations_of_Russia" title="Template:Foreign relations of Russia">Template:Foreign relations of Russia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Template:Foreign_relations_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Foreign relations of the People's Republic of China">Template:Foreign relations of the People's Republic of China</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Template:Foreign_relations_of_the_United_States" title="Template:Foreign relations of the United States">Template:Foreign relations of the United States</a>. Only these three templates have the format that you have adopted. And please don't add the Military relations of Israel with Serbia. That only applies to the United States. Look the red onces only appear in these templates because these are countries and they are big and powerful superpowers. Serbia is not a big powerful superpower. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RohilKxy" title="User talk:RohilKxy">talk</a> 6, November 2011 (UTC) <dl><dd>Hmmm. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Red_link" title="Wikipedia:Red link">Red link</a> means that article is not yet written. It is useful in editing article text to create a red link to indicate that a page will be created soon or that an article should be created for the topic because the subject is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">notable</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">verifiable</a>. And itold you that i will create most of the bilateral articles that are missing! Once again, superpower is not question here, i doesn't matter, other countries don't have that much articles about bilateral relations, it is about wikipedia question, and not real life question. I removed Military relations of Israel with Serbia, and don't know where did you find that. And what do you think about situation that i restore new template, and continua to create new articles, and later remove red links that are unneeded? --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:WhiteWriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:WhiteWriter (page does not exist)">WhiteWriter </a><sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhiteWriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:WhiteWriter (page does not exist)">speaks</a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Foreign_relations_of_Serbia#c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T10:43:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 7 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T10:43:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-07T10:43:00.000Z","author":"WhiteWriter","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T10:43:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T10:43:00.000Z-WhiteWriter-2011-11-06T16:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <table style="border-top:solid thin lightgrey;background:transparent;padding:4px;"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TransporterMan-2011-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Searchtool-80%25.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Searchtool-80%25.png/15px-Searchtool-80%25.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Searchtool-80%25.png/23px-Searchtool-80%25.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Searchtool-80%25.png/30px-Searchtool-80%25.png 2x" data-file-width="60" data-file-height="60"/></a></span> <b>Response to Third Opinion Request</b>: </td></tr> <tr> <td style="padding-left:0.6cm"><i>Disclaimers:</i> I am responding to a third opinion request made at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3O" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3O">WP:3O</a>. I have made no previous edits on Foreign relations of Serbia and have no known association with the editors involved in this discussion. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3">third opinion process</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Third_opinion/User_FAQ" title="Wikipedia:Third opinion/User FAQ">(FAQ)</a> is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of eyes. Third opinions are not tiebreakers and should not be "counted" in determining whether or not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONS">consensus</a> has been reached. My personal standards for issuing third opinions can be viewed <a href="/wiki/User:TransporterMan/WP3O/WP3O_Standards" title="User:TransporterMan/WP3O/WP3O Standards">here</a>. </td></tr> <tr> <td style="padding-left:0.6cm"> <p><i>Opinion:</i> Unless there is some policy or guideline which suggests that WhiteWriter's version is the proper one for one reason or another — and I do not believe that there is such a policy or guideline — then since objection has been made to WhiteWriter's version then WhiteWriter's version should not become the template unless WhiteWriter can establish a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONS">consensus</a> for the change. Since no policy or guideline applies, changes can be made to Wikipedia only if consensus supports them. The need for consensus is particularly true in this article since it is subject to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AC/DS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AC/DS">discretionary sanctions</a> pursuant to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBMAC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBMAC">Balkans ARBCOM decision</a>. My personal opinion is that the version prior to WhiteWriter's changes is the slightly preferable one and the one best for the encyclopedia at this point in time, but my opinion is also irrelevant because the guidelines of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3O" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3O">Third Opinion project</a> say that Third Opinions cannot be "counted" in establishing or refuting consensus. If anyone would like to take this further, I'd suggest that a note at the Serbia project and/or a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFC">RFC</a> would be a good next step. </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="padding-left:0.6cm"> <p><i>What's next:</i> Once you've considered this opinion <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Third_opinion/User_FAQ#What_happens_next.3F" title="Wikipedia:Third opinion/User FAQ">click here</a> to see what happens next.—<a href="/wiki/User:TransporterMan" title="User:TransporterMan"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:blue; font-variant:small-caps;"><b>TransporterMan</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TransporterMan" title="User talk:TransporterMan"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; font-size:x-small;">TALK</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Foreign_relations_of_Serbia#c-TransporterMan-2011-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 7 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TransporterMan-2011-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-07T15:29:00.000Z","author":"TransporterMan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TransporterMan-2011-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TransporterMan-2011-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"></span> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T16:26:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"></span>OK, following 3O, i will listen it, and i will just add articles that we have in current version of template. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:WhiteWriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:WhiteWriter (page does not exist)">WhiteWriter </a><sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhiteWriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:WhiteWriter (page does not exist)">speaks</a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Foreign_relations_of_Serbia#c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T16:26:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 7 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T16:26:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-07T16:26:00.000Z","author":"WhiteWriter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T16:26:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhiteWriter-2011-11-07T16:26:00.000Z-I_don't_like_your_Expansion"></span> </p><p>WhiteWriter. I like this. I hope that you add more articles to Europe especially on France and other European countres. Please add more but keep the current format please. I like this one very much. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RohilKxy" title="User talk:RohilKxy">talk</a> 7 November 2011 (UTC) </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐78f4c97c5d‐5kvpc Cached time: 20241129033114 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.013 seconds CPU time usage: 0.164 seconds Real time usage: 0.217 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 243/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 14607/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 0/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 7/100 Expensive parser function count: 10/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 15842/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.112/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1685418/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 166.990 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 100.00% 166.990 1 -total 42.08% 70.267 1 Template:WikiProject_International_relations 19.53% 32.612 1 Template:WikiProject_Serbia --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:17100908:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241129033114 and revision id 1231034746. 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